US ambassador and 3 others killed at embassy in Libya by Islamists (Page 8)

Comrade_
Comrade_: You want to pull a second edit on correcting it before you go?
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Comrade_
Comrade_: Thank you...I will settle for another kiss if that can be arranged.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Benghazi, Libya (CNN) -- Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.

"The situation is frightening, it scares us," Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: You would think that on the anniversary of 9/11 that security would be beefed up as a matter of course, particularly in areas of unrest.
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lavendar_star
lavendar_star: Well OCD nothing happened last year on the tenth anniversary or previous ones to my knowledge so why would the 11th one be any special. However, I guess they should of taken on board the advise of the security security but all these protests etc were quite unexpected.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: I thought the same thing, Lavendar. But it seems that we have become complaisant. We expect better of them and we have been proven wrong, so maybe things will change. I have no idea whether that change will be good or not.

The fact that the violence has spread to include other western countries such as the UK and Germany makes me think that this....outburst, may continue. I hope it does not escalate, though.
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Coffrey
Coffrey: It might and I hope it does. Not for any anti-west sentiment or anything, just so the leaders over here go "They actually don't like us sticking our dick into their countries" and we get out. I mean, imagine if Iranians landed in Lousiana, took it over and then when riots started happening at Iranian places all over the US, if they said "I don't get it, why don't they like us? We're bringing great Iranian culture to them"
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: An embassy is not an invasion of anything, Coffrey. It is to aid in assisting communications between governments and to assist our people living and working in those countries.
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OCD_OCD: Brisbane Times: A mob of Indonesian Islamists waving jihad flags attacked the US embassy yesterday, throwing rocks and bricks, but they were repelled by tear gas and riot police. About 500 people from a number of radical groups were protesting against the movie The Innocence of Muslims by calling for the arrest and death penalty for the movie’s director Sam Bacile and the Florida preacher Terry Jones who had planned to show the film.

Shouting ”Allahu Akbar” and ”F— America,” the mob, many of whom were masked, marched on the embassy and began to attack. Riot police were initially caught unprepared and without their shields. Volleys of rocks and bricks, broken from the pavement, rained on the police and embassy guards. Local television stations were also reporting that petrol bombs were thrown. One guard was separated from the building and pursued by a mob. It appeared he was eventually caught by a large group of protesters and surrounded, though it is not known what happened to him. A police officer was carried from the scene by his comrades, with reports variously suggesting he had been hit by a rock or stabbed in the face.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Guess we can add Jakarta to the list also.

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Comrade_
Comrade_:
Read today on the 8 Afghan girls who were killed by NATO's air strike. RIP
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: That's such a shame. Afghanistan is such a hell hole.
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Coffrey
Coffrey: I didn't mean with the embassy, I meant our occupation with soldiers and manipulation of their governments
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Coffrey, there have been the same religious and political problems going on since man came out of the caves and developed a society.

The only way that any of it will stop is if each country is insular and that cannot and will never happen because each country is dependent upon other countries for something that they are unable to produce. Our economies and food supplies are inextricably linked. It's not going to change.
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Coffrey
Coffrey: When's the last time we propped up a French dictator? Or that time when conveniently all the members of Denmark's parliament was pro-British, our allies in the region? Or maybe you can refresh my memory on when we invaded Spain and toppled their government?
You can have relations with countries, embassies and whatnot, but to invade and determine whatever government they have just because they're pro-whatever position you have is wrong and is something we've been doing in that region forever, THAT'S why they hate us, has nothing to do with religion.

If we dealt with European countries the same way as we've been dealing Middle Eastern countries, people would be saying that the USA is the fourth reich
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: As I said before, we can leave the middle east and everyone there would starve. We want their oil, they want our food, our medicines, and our manufactured goods.

You wish for something that cannot happen because of trade, Coffrey. When the militant islamists say that any non-muslim should be killed, I tend to believe them. Especially when they start doing it. They hate the US, they hate the UK they hate the West. They simply hate. Hell, they hate each other and other tribes and even other muslims. Their hate is nothing new or special.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Do we get credit from saving Kuwait from being overrun by Saddam? Probably not.
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Comrade_
Comrade_:
They were starving before you invaded? I don't see a change for the better happening from the ME invasions.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: I said the Middle East would starve because they do not have the ability to feed their people. They sell oil for food. How else would they get food if they did not purchase it? They certainly cannot produce it.
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Comrade_
Comrade_: How is that related to an invasion? And how have the invasions helped them in anyway, there's no change OCD, you've just managed to waste lives and resources instead another approach might've worked instead of force. Now troops will leave and things will go back to the old ways.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: I wasn't talking about an invasion, Jack. You were talking about the US invading every country on the planet. LOL

Do you not think that the US tries to use diplomacy before we send our military out to be killed? There is no diplomacy for terrorists.
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Comrade_
Comrade_: I was talking about the US invading every country on the planet? No just the failed invasions in the ME. The ME is very capable of feeding their people, as they have been doing so for some time.

Truth? You can send your military to be killed, I only put my sentiments to the innocent folks who get in the cross fire in dirty politics.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: They cannot feed their people without selling their oil. That's what I was talking about.

It might be easier for you since you come from a country that (and this is not meant to be rude) is not large or has anything sufficient to affect trade or power. Your little island country has no ambitions because they are not large enough to be a national power and are therefore, not a target.

When is the last time you heard of someone from TnT being part of a Red Cross operation in any country and being targeted because someone wanted to kidnap them to bring TnT to its knees? Never. And it never will.

There are ways that larger countries have to deal with other countries, particularly where trade and power are involved. You are lucky that you live on a tiny island and don't have to worry about someone dropping a nuke or a dirty bomb in your lap.
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