Condi Rice for VP? OCD_OCD: ROMNEY NARROWS VP CHOICES; CONDI EMERGES AS FRONTRUNNER Thu Jul 12 2012 19:30:01 ET **Exclusive** Late Thursday evening, Mitt Romney's presidential campaign launched a new fundraising drive, 'Meet The VP' -- just as Romney himself has narrowed the field of candidates to a handful, sources reveal. And a surprise name is now near the top of the list: Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice! The timing of the announcement is now set for 'coming weeks'. MORE It was Condi who received two standing ovations at Romney's Utah retreat a few weeks ago, and everyone left with her name on their lips. Rice made an extended argument for American leadership in the world. In recent days, she emailed supporters: "2012 is perhaps a turning point for the United States." "The upcoming elections loom as one of the most important in my lifetime," she warned. "I'm very often asked to speak about our current foreign policy and the challenges that lie before us. However, we, as a country, are not going to be able to address any of those international challenges unless we first get our domestic house in order." Developing.. OCD_OCD: Condi Rice is one of my heroes. What a Renaissance woman!!!!!!!! She might not accept because she is happy as an academic, but maybe she will change her mind. I hope so.  southern77: i hope not... i dont think we need to take the chance on a woman that close to the presidency... lets get obama out first and then maybe she might be a wonderful choice but lets not fail to keep our real aim is to elect romney and hope like hell he can stop the bleeding of america...then put us on the path of healing the greatest nation the world has ever seen southern77: just get obama out and i wont care whos in office.... oh and please not hillary (Edited by southern77) OCD_OCD: sure. why not? she has more than proven her ability and statesmanship as former secretary of state. Have you ever listened to her speak? she is awesome!  (Post deleted by Stassi SUR ) (Post deleted by Stassi SUR )  chronology: Deeply intellectual and a hard worker, Dr Rice is a 'Tiger in the bushes' to Dem's, but she has stated over and over she is not interested in the Job. 2016 will probably see her stalking out of the bushes to give the Dem's their biggest challenge.  Sarcastic Dots: It could give some legitimacy to a party that is still associated with the most suicidal choice in vice presidential history: Sarah Palin. Of course, it's a double edged sword, given her association with the previous administration, but I've seen worse politicians given a second or third chance. Although, I'm also morbidly intrigued by the ominous tones that Southern ushered about the distaste for a female president. We could be in for some hilarity in this thread. (Edited by Sarcastic Dots) OCD_OCD: Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio are both impressive choices, but Condi is awesomeness personified. OCD_OCD: Meat Boy...It's obvious that you think Sarah Palin was not a good choice, but look who our current VP is...Biden? Are you kidding me? The guy is a complete twit.  lavendar_star: I think she is a good choice, I see no reason why a woman could not be either the VP or the president of America or why Americans would not accept her (I understand why certain people wouldn't). After all Britain, India, Jamaica, a couple of African countries and a few others and now Denmark, Brazil and Australia have had or do have a female Prime Minster/President. I do agree with super that her association with the former administartion could put some people off but I don't think Americans have the same issues with their former government's decision to go to war like we do in the UK. (Tony Blair our former PM cant go anywhere without protesters harassing him). It defo seemed in the former Rep administartion she was the brains of the operation and was Bush's closes confidant. But as you have put OCD she might not accept it but she defo is a inspiration as a female role model (even though I may not agree with her politics). (Edited by lavendar_star) lavendar_star: lol^^^ Well unlike some of the other women in politics like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman who seem bit out there, she seems more balanced and put together. Even though i think women are judged more harshly then men in politics but with Condi I dont here much criticism with her. dave3974: condi is impressive , but why on earth did she not give better advice on the illegal war on iraq and the mess in afhganistan OCD_OCD: She was Secretary of State, not Secretary of Defense. She was working to stop confrontations diplomatically, not planning strategy for war. chronology: Dave, when a SWAT Team go into a House to rescue the people, they have to smash down the door and often break holes in the roof to rescue the people at risk or apprehend the wrong doers. If you think Officers can do this without risk to people you are mistaken. When Americans rescued the Iraqi people from a situation where they were being robbed, swindled, and starved to death by sanctions, not to mention living under terror, it is not an easy decision to make. If you can tell people here on Wire, that the people of Iraq should have been left in the trap they were in, please present your facts. If you can present your argument that Iraq and the people of Iraq were not 'liberated' but 'attacked' without justifiable reason, please do so. Did the people of Iraq suffer as a result of liberation? yes. Would they have starved and suffered more if not liberated? the answer some would suggest is 'yes'. chronology: Well Dave, you say the war was 'illegal', is that your opinion? or can you support the argument with authoritative expert analysis? Yes, some Lawyers say it was 'illegal', just as many say it was in fact 'legal'. You say the war 'badly executed' again, with what do you support this assertion? American Military personnel were outstanding in their tactics and the down to earth courage of their service people. You say the U.S.A. made a 'bloody mess of it', granted, we should have been of more service to the Iraqi people, and more responsive to their immediate needs in the first months of liberation, we failed them there, no doubt. But as the saying goes; 'the man who never made a mistake never made anything'. Again I ask you; 'do you think the Iraqi people would have been better served being left to starve slowly under sanctions and blockade, being swindled by sanctions busters and corrupt bureaucrats? Do you still assert they should have been left in grinding poverty, having their wealth stolen from them? Or are they better now, free to decide their own fate and create their own destiny? dave3974: An illegal war founded on lies. The result a bloody mess Below is the Congressional authorization for force that Bush used to launch the invasion of Iraq. However, if you read Section 3, paragraph B, Bush was required to prove to the Congress that Iraq was in violation of UN Resolutions by still being in possession of weapons of mass destruction, and secondly, that Iraq was behind 9-11. Both claims have since been disproved and discredited, and appear to be created by the Pentagon Office at the heart of the latest Israeli spy scandal. Therefore, under United States law, the war in Iraq is illegal. And We The People are not under any legal or moral obligation to pay for it, let alone let our kids be killed in it. If anything, Bush and his pro-war Neocon buddies should be required to reimburse the treasury for their private use of government property. I leave the question of civil lawsuits for wrongful deaths to the families of the dead American service people, and the live service people still suffering from depleted uranium. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House) HJ 114 EH 107th CONGRESS 2d Session H. J. RES. 114 JOINT RESOLUTION To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq. Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq; Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism; Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated; Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998; Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations'; Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations; Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait; Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people; Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council; Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq; Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens; Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations; Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself; Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994); Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677'; Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688'; Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime; Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable'; Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary; Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations; Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations; Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'. SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS. The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to-- (1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and (2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq. SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES. (a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to-- (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq. (b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that-- (1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and (2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001. (c) War Powers Resolution Requirements- (1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution. (2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution. SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS. (a) REPORTS- The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 3 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338). (b) SINGLE CONSOLIDATED REPORT- To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of the War Powers Resolution (Public Law 93-148), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress. (c) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION- To the extent that the information required by section 3 of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of such resolution. Passed the House of Representatives October 10, 2002. Attest: Clerk. 107th CONGRESS 2d Session H. J. RES. 114 JOINT RESOLUTION (Edited by dave3974) | Politics Chat Room 49 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
