U.S. Bridges and Roads being built by Chinese firms and Chinese workers (Page 2)

davidk14: .

Some members do care about truth and some just don't.





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davidk14: .

I'm sure members prefer better research before people post.

Back on topic. Here's a perfect reason Americans buy from China...

A huge portion of the San Francisco Bay Bridge is being replaced. Here is a portion from an article regarding why China won the contract...



"The selection of the state-owned Shanghai Zhenhua Heavy Industries Company was a surprise, though, because the company made port cranes and had no bridge building experience.

But California officials and executives at American Bridge said Zhenhua’s advantages included its huge steel fabrication facilities, its large low-cost work force and its solid finances. (The company even had its own port and ships.)

“I don’t think the U.S. fabrication industry could put a project like this together,” Brian A. Petersen, project director for the American Bridge/Fluor Enterprises joint venture, said in a telephone interview. “Most U.S. companies don’t have these types of warehouses, equipment or the cash flow. The Chinese load the ships, and it’s their ships that deliver to our piers.”

Despite the American union complaints, former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, strongly backed the project and even visited Zhenhua’s plant last September, praising “the workers that are building our Bay Bridge.”

Zhenhua put 3,000 employees to work on the project: steel-cutters, welders, polishers and engineers. The company built the main bridge tower, which was shipped in mid-2009, and a total of 28 bridge decks — the massive triangular steel structures that will serve as the roadway platform.

Pan Zhongwang, a 55-year-old steel polisher, is a typical Zhenhua worker. He arrives at 7 a.m. and leaves at 11 p.m., often working seven days a week. He lives in a company dorm and earns about $12 a day."




American labor can not pay a metal worker $12 a day.

I believe this is how China primarily won the contract...Labor.


Source:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/business/global/26bridge.html?pagewanted=all

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OCD_OCD: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/03/infographic-how-china-manipulates-its-currency/73201/

this is one of the best examples I found on how China manipulates it's currency.

vivv_00: Is America addicted to cheap Chinese products? So much so that the government will hand over big projects to the Chinese? Or is this happening for other reasons......

vivv_00: Silicon Valley ain`t what she used to be
(not building & engineering work/labor, ooop, off topic)

OCD_OCD: We are addicted to cheap labor which means cheap products because our labor unions have priced the US out of the market with their salary and benefit demands.

vivv_00: Ughhhhh, the BLIGHTful union monster

OCD_OCD: Yep.

vivv_00: "We better get what we`re entitled to, and F*** everyone else" is the attitude there. Just like broke-a** welfare mothers, GACKKKKK.

I`m trying to buy American products when I can,,,,just to feel a little better.

OCD_OCD: Prop up, manipulate. Call it what you will rabbit, I prefer not to support it any more than the Fed manipulating our currency, ffs's, since that is the way you want to put it.

Did I claim clean hands ffs. No I didn't, ffs's

OCD_OCD: Call it what you will, ffs

OCD_OCD: If you are waiting for me to bow down to you or bend over for a spanking from you, you have a while to wait. But that's your decision, prerogative, choice, or whichever word you choose to use.

davidk14: .

Member said:

It would be interesting however to get it right from the horse's mouth what their occupancy rate actually is and who exactly are their anchor tenants.

Why don't you do that David? You seem to have more time on your hands than I do.

Other than that, I'm really not interested. I believe this topic is not about chinese malls but rather about why Americans prefer to buy overseas products and services vs. their own.

Let me know what the mall's response is to you David but other than that, let's get back on topic.




Member responds:

I do not need to do your research and create your response for you. As a part of the 1%, with the vast researches at the fingertips, you could easily find out but choose not to. And that’s ok.

There is no Twitter in China, confirmed with the co-founder of Twitter, Biz Stone. Facebook does not function, and the Internet and all online news is censored. For members outside China without the same contacts as a member of the 1% living there, trying to contact them and get the truth would like be trying to get some members here on wire to see and accept the truth.

Back on topic, Americans prefer to buy overseas products and services vs. their own because the product is cheaper. The main reason….labor is cheap and healthcare for these folks is mostly non-existent. According to a recent article in Foreign Affairs by Yanzhong Huang, The Sick Man of Asia, China's Health Crisis, 80% of China's health care expenditures are funneled into the treatment of only 8.5 million government officials out of a population of 1 billion More than 73% of Chinese hospitals have reported violent incidents between patients and healthcare professionals. Why? Because feelings run high when you are told that your child, your parent or your spouse cannot be given treatment because you cannot pay for it. Unfortunately, by 2040, more Chinese will be suffering from Alzheimer's than the total populations of all the developed nations combined.

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