AYATOLLAH: Kill all Jews, Annihilate Israel (Page 4) LiptonCambell: >>>so you want them to wait and be killed Again, whats with this "you're either with us or against us" bullshit? Just because I don't think Israel should nuke Iran(or anyone for that matter) because Iran threatened them doesn't mean I want or expect them to wipe out Jews. Should JFK have nuked Russia during the Cuban Missile Crisis? What is so extreme to believe that wars should not be started because the other nations are being rude? >>>but i am againist to send troops in because that will not help topble the radicals And Nuking them will? ---- >>> It’s been verified. We’re going in with a pre-emptive strike to knock it out. You're not talking about that- you're talking about nuclear war! Like I said earlier- I just can't get past the similarities your argument has to the recent war on Iraq.... (Edited by LiptonCambell) davidk14: . Oh...you think I mean Israel will be the first to use nukes. I never said that nor do I believe they will or ever would as a first strike weapon. Israel's nukes would only be used if her very lifeblood of existence would be in jeopardy. If Israel is nuked, Israel will launch. Have no doubt about that. That is what you should be worried about. . . LiptonCambell: Okay, lets hear it then- whats the ideal war situation? How would disarming Iran work out? And what if other nations develop nukes? How long can Israel last? How long until they are nuking nations? (Edited by LiptonCambell) Serabi: Why be caught up in a war when the world can sit back and wait for the Muslims to self-destruct? (Posted on another Thread) Jewish Boycott. A short time ago, Iran's Supreme Leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei urged the Muslim World to boycott anything and everything that originates with the Jewish people. In response, Meyer M. Treinkman, a pharmacist, out of the kindness of his heart, offered to assist them in their boycott as follows: "Any Muslim who has Syphilis must not be cured by Salvarsan discovered by a Jew, Dr. Ehrlich. He should not even try to find out whether he has Syphilis, because the Wasserman Test is the discovery of a Jew. If a Muslim suspects that he has Gonorrhea, he must not seek diagnosis, because he will be using the method of a Jew named Neissner. "A Muslim who has heart disease must not use Digitalis, a discovery by a Jew, Ludwig Traube. Should he suffer with a toothache, he must not use Novocaine, a discovery of the Jews, Widal and Weil. If a Muslim has Diabetes, he must not use Insulin, the result of research by Minkowsky, a Jew. If one has a headache, he must shun Pyramidon and Antypyrin, due to the Jews, Spiro and Ellege. Muslims with convulsions must put up with them because it was a Jew, Oscar Leibreich, who proposed the use of Chloral Hydrate. Arabs must do likewise with their psychic ailments because Freud, father of psychoanalysis, was a Jew. Should a Muslim child get Diphtheria, he must refrain from the "Schick" reaction which was invented by the Jew, Bella Schick. "Muslims should be ready to die in great numbers and must not permit treatment of ear and brain damage, work of Nobel Prize winner, Robert Baram. They should continue to die or remain crippled by Infantile Paralysis because the discoverer of the anti-polio vaccine is a Jew, Jonas Salk. "Muslims must refuse to use Streptomycin and continue to die of Tuberculosis because a Jew, Zalman Waxman, invented the wonder drug against this killing disease. Muslim doctors must discard all discoveries and improvements by dermatologist Judas Sehn Benedict, or the lung specialist, Frawnkel, and of many other world renowned Jewish scientists and medical experts. "In short, good and loyal Muslims properly and fittingly should remain afflicted with Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Heart Disease, Headaches, Typhus, Diabetes, Mental Disorders, Polio Convulsions and Tuberculosis and be proud to obey the Islamic boycott." OCD_OCD: the Ayatollah ranted, so the author (not Serabi) set forth what would happen (in a comical way) what would happen if they did boycott all things Jewish. Look to the fool who said it, the Ayatollah, than anyone who is willing to give the fool exactly what he wants. Serabi: Blank face: I take offense at you misrepresenting an entire culture Serabi. Making fun of the Muslim culture is racist at best and despicable at worst. Which one are you? Do I have a multiple choice question? Aha.. the race card again? Google every one of the medicines, diagnosing tests or vaccines, they are all true. Come on all ye faithful, heed the Ayatollah. Just keep an eye on him next time he checks into a hospital! I didn't call for the boycott, I'm not that stupid. If I call for such a broad-based boycott, I'll do my homework first. I think the Ayatollah should be declared a WMS - A Weapon of Mass Suicide! Oops, they are already doing that, the suicides. Whateverrr. Serabi: OCD_OCD, you explain so nicely to the illiterate. Such a shame that a large proportion of WireClub members can't read. Great2012: Do the muslim world contribute any thing to this earth and i wonder what will they boycott and what will they use for their daily life. they have zero if they take out all the jews can offer . Even the oil will not be at display from their place. 70% of young arabs are illitrate and almost all the radicals hace zero understanding all about this earth and the Iran nuke is zero with out the USSR scientist as well as russia help . LiptonCambell: >>>Do the muslim world contribute any thing to this earth Im pretty sure that Muslims developed some of the basics of math.......so yea...the internet wouldn't work without them.... Boycotting any creed is frankly really stupid. >>> 70% of young arabs are illitrate Huh? Where'd you get that stat? That sounds like bullshit to me... >>> almost all the radicals hace zero understanding all about this earth Lol the same could be said about Christian Radicals.... Serabi: Don't shoot the messenger! Comparison of Arab and Jewish Nobel Prize Winners Arab/Islamic Nobel Prize Winners From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world's population (2 out of every 10 people) Nobel Prize in Chemistry Ahmed Zewail, 1999 . Nobel Prize in Literature Naguib Mahfouz, 1988 Orhan Pamuk, 2006 . Nobel Peace Prize Anwar El-Sadat, 1978 Yasser Arafat, 1994 Shirin Ebadi, 2003 Mohamed ElBaradei, 2005 Muhammad Yunus, 2006 * NOTE: Norwegian, Kaare Kristiansen, was a member of the Nobel Committee. He resigned in 1994 to protest the awarding of a Nobel "Peace Prize" to Yasser Arafat, whom he correctly labeled a "terrorist." Jewish Nobel Prize Winners From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World's Population (2 out of every 1,000 people) Literature 1910 - Paul Heyse 1927 - Henri Bergson 1958 - Boris Pasternak 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 - Nelly Sachs 1976 - Saul Bellow 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 - Elias Canetti 1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer 2002 - Imre Kertesz World Peace 1911 - Alfred Fried 1911 - Tobias Asser 1968 - Rene Cassin 1973 - Henry Kissinger 1978 - Menachem Begin 1986 - Elie Wiesel 1994 - Shimon Peres 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin 1995 - Joseph Rotblat Chemistry 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 - Henri Moissan 1910 - Otto Wallach 1915 - Richard Willstaetter 1918 - Fritz Haber 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy 1961 - Melvin Calvin 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz 1972 - William Howard Stein 1972 - C.B. Anfinsen 1977 - Ilya Prigogine 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown 1980 - Paul Berg 1980 - Walter Gilbert 1981 - Ronald Hoffmann 1982 - Aaron Klug 1985 - Herbert A. Hauptman 1985 - Jerome Karle 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach 1988 - Robert Huber 1989 - Sidney Altman 1992 - Rudolph Marcus 1998 - Walter Kohn 2000 - Alan J. Heeger 2004 - Irwin Rose 2004 - Avram Hershko 2004 - Aaron Ciechanover Economics 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 - Simon Kuznets 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1973 - Wassily Leontief 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich 1976 - Milton Friedman 1978 - Herbert A. Simon 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein 1985 - Franco Modigliani 1987 - Robert M. Solow 1990 - Harry Markowitz 1990 - Merton Miller 1992 - Gary Becker 1993 - Rober Fogel 1994 - John Harsanyi 1994 - Reinhard Selten 1997 - Robert Merton 1997 - Myron Scholes 2001 - George Akerlof 2001 - Joseph Stiglitz 2002 - Daniel Kahneman 2005 - Robert (Israel) Aumann Medicine 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff 1908 - Paul Erlich 1914 - Robert Barany 1922 - Otto Meyerhof 1930 - Karl Landsteiner 1931 - Otto Warburg 1936 - Otto Loewi 1944 - Joseph Erlanger 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman 1953 - Hans Krebs 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 - Joshua Lederberg 1959 - Arthur Kornberg 1964 - Konrad Bloch 1965 - Francois Jacob 1965 - Andre Lwoff 1967 - George Wald 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg 1969 - Salvador Luria 1970 - Julius Axelrod 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman 1975 - David Baltimore 1975 - Howard Martin Temin 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow 1977 - Andrew V. Schally 1978 - Daniel Nathans 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf 1984 - Cesar Milstein 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 - Gertrude Elion 1989 - Harold Varmus 1991 - Erwin Neher 1991 - Bert Sakmann 1993 - Richard J. Roberts 1993 - Phillip Sharp 1994 - Alfred Gilman 1994 - Martin Rodbell 1995 - Edward B. Lewis 1997 - Stanley B. Prusiner 1998 - Robert F. Furchgott 2000 - Eric R. Kandel 2002 - Sydney Brenner 2002 - Robert H. Horvitz Physics 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann 1921 - Albert Einstein 1922 - Niels Bohr 1925 - James Franck 1925 - Gustav Hertz 1943 - Gustav Stern 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi 1945 - Wolfgang Pauli 1952 - Felix Bloch 1954 - Max Born 1958 - Igor Tamm 1958 - Il'ja Mikhailovich 1958 - Igor Yevgenyevich 1959 - Emilio Segre 1960 - Donald A. Glaser 1961 - Robert Hofstadter 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau 1963 - Eugene P. Wigner 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman 1965 - Julian Schwinger 1967 - Hans Albrecht Bethe 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann 1971 - Dennis Gabor 1972 - Leon N. Cooper 1973 - Brian David Josephson 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson 1976 - Burton Richter 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias 1978 - Peter L Kapitza 1979 - Stephen Weinberg 1979 - Sheldon Glashow 1988 - Leon Lederman 1988 - Melvin Schwartz 1988 - Jack Steinberger 1990 - Jerome Friedman 1992 - Georges Charpak 1995 - Martin Perl 1995 - Frederick Reines 1996 - David M. Lee 1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff 1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji 2000 - Zhores I. Alferov 2003 - Vitaly Ginsburg 2003 - AlexeiA brikosov After reviewing this list, can you supply a reason for the large discrepancy between the Arab/Islamic population's contribution to the world body and that of the Jew? There are 165 Jews listed as opposed to 6 from the Arab side. (Edited by Serabi) LiptonCambell: Exactly! Its idiotic to "boycott" things because the people involved hold beliefs you're intolerant towards.... davidk14: Israeli Noble Prize Winners: Literature • 1910 - Paul Heyse • 1927 - Henri Bergson • 1958 - Boris Pasternak • 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon • 1966 - Nelly Sachs • 1976 - Saul Bellow • 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer • 1981 - Elias Canetti • 1987 - Joseph Brodsky • 1991 - Nadine Gordimer • 2001 - Imre Kertesz • 2005 - Harold Pinter World Peace • 1911 - Alfred Fried • 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser • 1968 - Rene Cassin • 1973 - Henry Kissinger • 1978 - Menachem Begin • 1986 - Elie Wiesel • 1994 - Shimon Peres • 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin • 1995 - Joseph Rotblat Chemistry • 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer • 1906 - Henri Moissan • 1910 - Otto Wallach • 1915 - Richard Willstaetter • 1918 - Fritz Haber • 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy • 1961 - Melvin Calvin • 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz • 1972 - William Howard Stein • 1977 - Ilya Prigogine • 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown • 1980 - Paul Berg • 1980 - Walter Gilbert • 1981 - Roald Hoffmann • 1982 - Aaron Klug • 1985 - Herbert Hauptman • 1985 - Jerome Karle • 1989 - Sidney Altman • 1992 - Rudolph Marcus • 1998 - Walter Kohn • 2004 - Avram Hershko, Aaron Ciechanover, Irwin Rose • 2006 - Roger Kornberg • 2009 - Ada Yonath • 2011 - Daniel Schechtman Economics • 1970 - Paul Samuelson • 1971 - Simon Kuznets • 1972 - Kenneth Arrow • 1973 - Wassily Leontief • 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich • 1976 - Milton Friedman • 1978 - Herbert A. Simon • 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein • 1985 - Franco Modigliani • 1987 - Robert M. Solow • 1990 - Harry Markowitz • 1990 - Merton Miller • 1992 - Gary Becker • 1993 - Robert Fogel • 1994 - John Harsanyi • 1997 - Myron Scholes • 2001 - Joseph Stiglitz • 2001 - George A. Akerlof • 2002 - Daniel Kahneman • 2005 - Robert Aumann • 2007 - Leonid Hurwicz, Eric Maskin, Roger Myerson • 2008 - Paul Krugman • 2010 - Peter Diamond Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin and President Shimon Peres accept the Nobel Prize in Peace in 1994 Israeli mathmatician Robert Israel Aumann accepts the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2005 Medicine • 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff & Paul Ehrlich • 1914 - Robert Barany • 1922 - Otto Meyerhof • 1930 - Karl Landsteiner • 1931 - Otto Warburg • 1936 - Otto Loewi • 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser • 1944 - Joseph Erlanger • 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain • 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller • 1947 - Gerty Cori* • 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein • 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman • 1953 - Hans Krebs & Fritz Lipmann • 1958 - Joshua Lederberg • 1959 - Arthur Kornberg • 1964 - Konrad Bloch • 1965 - Francois Jacob & Andre Lwoff • 1967 - George Wald • 1968 - Marshall Nirenberg • 1969 - Salvador Luria • 1970 - Julius Axelrod & Bernard Katz • 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman • 1975 - David Baltimore & Howard Temin • 1976 - Baruch Blumberg • 1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow & Andrew V. Schally • 1978 - Daniel Nathans • 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf • 1984 - Cesar Milstein • 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown & Joseph Goldstein • 1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini • 1988 - Gertrude Elion • 1989 - Harold Varmus • 1994 - Alfred Gilman & Martin Rodbell • 1997- Stanley B. Prusiner • 1998 - Robert Furchgott • 2000 - Paul Greengard & Eric Kandel • 2002 - H. Robert Horvitz & Sydney Brenner • 2004 - Richard Axel • 2006 - Andrew Fire • 2011 - Ralph Marvin Steinman • 2011 - Bruce Beutler Physics • 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson • 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann • 1921 - Albert Einstein • 1922 - Niels Bohr • 1925 - James Franck & Gustav Hertz • 1943 - Otto Stern • 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi • 1945 - Wolfgang Pauli • 1952 - Felix Bloch • 1954 - Max Born# • 1958 - Igor Tamm & Il'ja Mikhailovich Frank • 1959 - Emilio Segrè • 1960 - Donald A. Glaser • 1961 - Robert Hofstadter • 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau • 1963 - Eugene Wigner • 1965 - Richard Feynman & Julian Schwinger • 1967 - Hans Bethe • 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann • 1971 - Dennis Gabor • 1972 - Leon Cooper • 1973 - Brian David Josephson • 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson • 1976 - Burton Richter • 1978 - Arno Penzias; Pyotr Kapitsa • 1979 - Stephen Weinberg; Sheldon Glashow • 1988 - Leon Lederman; Melvin Schwartz; Jack Steinberger • 1990 - Jerome Friedman • 1992- Georges Charpak • 1995 - Martin Perl ; Fredrick Reines • 1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff ; David M. Lee • 1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji • 2000 - Zhores I. Alferov • 2003 - Vitaly Ginzburg; Alexei A. Abrikosov • 2004 - H. David Politzer; David Gross • 2005 - Roy Glauber • 2011 - Saul Perlmutter • 2011 - Adam Riess . OCD_OCD: Unless it is an applied science, I'm not sure that the Nobel Prize means much. Obama got one, which seriously makes me question their non-science choices. LOL LiptonCambell: I think its a very real possibility in any war between nations. Pandora's box was opened long ago- if Iran doesn't get a nuke, other nearby nations will eventually. Is Israel going to systematically crush every nation nearby that they don't trust? I do agree that the current situation isn't great....but war isn't going to solve anything....it's just going to create further problems... davidk14: . The idea being proposed...Israel does a limited assault on Iran and takes out all the nuclear sites before the Iranians have a chance to have a viable nuke to launch. davidk14: . Lipton, N. Korea has nukes yet S Korea and Japan don't. There's no discussion to arm them. None of the other Arab countries are considering nukes unless....Iran gets one. . Great2012: Even the none hard science prizes make change in our world but sure obama prize was a hook too but because of obama gets this prize do not make the others bad as obama because most of them as you can admit that OCD you have no idea who they are too but as a fact the jews do contribute too much more than these arabs and you need to agree that the jews are far better than any one in their neighboor in Technology development and you can find zero who can be like the jews. By the way there are so many jews who outperform other people in medicne . physics , chemitry and other fields that makes them special (Edited by Great2012) LiptonCambell: >>>Israel does a limited assault on Iran and takes out all the nuclear sites before the Iranians have a chance to have a viable nuke to launch. And if Iran retaliates? What if Iran simply re-builds their nukes? Does Israel attack again? This all seems rather similar to the Palestine-Israel issue- and there doesn't seem to be positive results there.....this would be far worse, I'd wager.... >>>None of the other Arab countries are considering nukes unless....Iran gets one. Plu-eeze. You're saying no other nations in that region are considering arming themselves? Clearly the lesson sent out again and again by the west is, if you are developing nukes, you will be attacked- but if you HAVE nukes, like North Korea, and India, and Pakistan? It turns into a cold war, where you are only attacked if the other side is content with being nuked. The lesson is to get nukes- but not get caught developing them. So the fact that other nations don't seem to be developing nuclear weapons isn't evidence that they aren't. (Edited by LiptonCambell) | Politics Chat Room 63 People Chatting Similar Conversations |