I AM A GREEK CURRENTLY LIVING IN GERMANY. AND I HAVE TO SAY ONE THING "PLEASE! *BEGS* USA VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!" (Page 2)

kat82
kat82: @ Caffeinated Zen: I agree with the democratic monarchy, but I have a better example from Belgium... Norway! Check out the country's info and how everything works and you 'll forget about Belgium in 1 sec...
@ Azimuth: I also agree with you about Ron Paul. I don't like politicians, but people should give him the chance to prove what he stands for, instead of voting politicians that don't even have the right ideas of how to change this world. If you want to achieve your goal you have to increase your possibilities...
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Sarcastic Dots
Sarcastic Dots: How is Ron Paul's ideology remotely similar to Norway?

Do people not know what libertarianism is?
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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: LoL dots its not the same. Read first and the comment

Thanks Kat. I am aware of Norway's policy cause i have been to Oslo. Nice place and i have to say i was really impressed from Norway's Policy.
They have a really low crime rate, their basic Salary is awesome(2500 euros) their taxes are high but they still have lots of money on the side lol, Their education system is amazing, Their public transport is also amazing, the people are friendly and they all speak english. Clean City, and all the immigrants look very happy there. I was really impressed with Norway.

Dots you ask me about Ron Paul

Before i answer your question i will take a look on what you said about that book. I will google it first. Dont worry though i never Judge a book on its cover.
As for Ron Paul....I think what i sad in the first comment basically covers everything right?
I dont want to use words to debate with you Dots so i will use math and statistics which speak better than words do.
Ron is clearly a honest, and he will cut a lot of spending which USA is doing on War on drugs,security and War against Terrorism. They are all failures dude. So he will stand for economy which means (economize) and he will save USA a lot of Money for Education and Health Care.
So i am going to do you a favors and check out the book. you do me a favor and check out the statistics and do the math according to what i said and look at the result. You will be surprised
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kat82
kat82: Sarcastic Dots please read our comments first and then comment. I have written 2 different things. 1) Norway has the perfect system in our time and
2) I said I don't like politicians, but Ron Paul seems to deserve a chance judging on his point of view. That's all. Capish??
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Ron Paul has no chance to be nominated. None. Zero. He will probably drop out after the South Carolina vote.

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Sarcastic Dots
Sarcastic Dots: 2) I said I don't like politicians, but Ron Paul seems to deserve a chance judging on his point of view. That's all. Capish??

Yeah, and that's what I commented on. Please explain to me why Ron Paul, a man who would strictly oppose the Norwegian system (which you describe as perfect), deserves a chance?

You are basically telling Americans that the Norwegian system is perfect, but they should vote for a politician that wouldn't support it. How, in your view, is that good for America?
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kat82
kat82: David propaganda is written all over your profile pic... Let the voters judge for them selves. Why are you so worried anyway?
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davidk14
davidk14: .

First, unlike most who have posted their vile comments about America, Israel and other western civilizations in general, I am proud to be an American and a Jew who supports Israel and any other country that believes in freedom and liberty. If anyone thinks this is propaganda, they are misguided and delusional and are intentionally being mislead.

Second, the voters are judging Ron Paul and they do not like what they are currently seeing. He is loosing ground and will not have enough votes to be the Republican nominee.

Third, I'm not at all worried that Paul will be the nominee. Actually, I'm quite confident he will not be the nominee.

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Flyx
Flyx: not American... but I would NEVER vote Republican
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kat82
kat82: Dots I want proof of Ron Paul opposing the Norwegian system.

I see a lot of similarities for foreign policy. The Norwegians are simply smart enough to understand Ron Paul's idealism. And they 're giving their support to end war. Why would Ron Paul oppose the Norwegian system?
What you 're doing wrong Dots is that you 're putting labels everywhere, you 're not looking in between the lines.

This is what I found for you:
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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: Flyx

Republican or Democrat is the same for USA presidents cause they are all puppets.
Lets not use stereotype and labels. Ron Paul Is not like them!
And Americas youth are Rallying for him cause the want a bright future.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

They also tend to like Che and Mao.

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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: Who likes che and mao and what is your point Mr snitch?
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Predator, what country do you live in? I looked at your profile and you seem ashamed not to mention your country.

Try and follow the conversation. I realize you live in your mom's basement, but turn off the Captain Kangaroo show on the TV for a few minutes and try and focus.



Many of the die hard supporters of Paul are members of the Occupy Wall Street crew who also are anarchists.

At one time, I was high on Paul in the beginning for his Constitutional beliefs. But once I started to do research (you know what that is right?) I started to see what he really represented. I also read many of the articles from his newsletters which were racist at best. He denied that he wrote the articles but they were published in his newsletter. The Nazi movement has these news articles as mandatory reading for all of their members.

He is correct that government should be limited. However, his foreign policies are out of control. He is a far right person and if he is elected president, all social programs are gone. Not limited, but gone. No more Social Security, Medicare, or any other social program not directly linked to word of the Constitution.

Still here? Focus.

Let me ask you a question. Do you support Hamas and their quest for the elimination of the State of Israel? A yes or no will do.

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Sarcastic Dots
Sarcastic Dots: He hasn't directly said he opposes it, but his ideology is totally contrary to the Norwegian system. Libertarians believe in personal liberty, but would privatise or abolish every single area of the government, which is totally contrary to modern "liberals" and certainly different from social democracy.
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Aura
Aura: eh, david, did you see the name of this forum discussion? Lol just saying, you kind of ask exactly what is written there.

And there is one very simple reason why Paul would oppose the Norwegian system: it requires a king or queen. If that's lacking you really can't call it the Norwegian system. But anyone who is running for president of the united states is probably not going to suggest the usa should install a royal family (although, if you were to combine an American royal family with a reality show, it would probably be the most watched program on American television)
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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: David I am half Greek, Quarter English and quarter Kiwi(new Zealander)
There you go!
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Predator....Let me ask you a question. Do you support Hamas and their quest for the elimination of the State of Israel? A yes or no will do.

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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: No i support my self and people that have ideas for a better earth. And that is not you
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Do you support that Israel has the right to exist? A yes or no will do.

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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: Yes but with no killing innocent people...
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davidk14
davidk14: .

No shit. I....I...*tears in eyes*.....I love ya man....*blows nose on sleeve*

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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: Its obvious that you love war. To me you are a coward, a snitch and a lower intelligent life form..
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Predator..You have me all wrong. Exactly, how did you come up with that conclusion based on what?

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Azimuth_Predator
Azimuth_Predator: based on your love of war and power maybe?
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