call me stupid ... (Page 5) (Post deleted by staff ) ohnonotthatguy: who the @#$$^^ is Seb-the-pm-? Christmas? What does Christmas or any other festive day have to do with this topic the worst ever: Soon, it will be christmas time...and people that are wrong about the housing and prizes ussually do not cry before christmas time...they should be happy and tolerant cause the opinions of the majority will always win over. Sarcastic Dots: Christmas? What does Christmas or any other festive day have to do with this topic It#s more to do with your association with Scrooge than anything. Allow me to elaborate. Remind you of anyone in this topic? ___ ``At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge,'' said the gentleman, taking up a pen, ``it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.'' ``Are there no prisons?'' asked Scrooge. ``Plenty of prisons,'' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again. ``And the Union workhouses?'' demanded Scrooge. ``Are they still in operation?'' ``They are. Still,'' returned the gentleman, `` I wish I could say they were not.'' ``The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?'' said Scrooge. ``Both very busy, sir.'' ``Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,'' said Scrooge. ``I'm very glad to hear it.'' ``Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,'' returned the gentleman, ``a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?'' ``Nothing!'' Scrooge replied. ``You wish to be anonymous?'' ``I wish to be left alone,'' said Scrooge. ``Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.'' ``Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'' ``If they would rather die,'' said Scrooge, ``they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that.'' ``But you might know it,'' observed the gentleman. ``It's not my business,'' Scrooge returned. ``It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!'' ___  vivv_00: non-religious & broke, but i still like christmas. & nope, still can`t afford to buy a house that is reasonably close to my workplace,,,, hmmm, not even a house farther inland, for that matter. maybe someday ohnonotthatguy: Again the bullshit about Scrooge and blabblabblab If you Mr.sarcastic are so concerned about these homeless people and squatters,maybe you should consider moving out of your residence and allow these less fortunate souls to move in  duncan124: Scrooge and Dickins is from the last century. we are trying to move on to what the new economics should be. duncan124: I don,t know. so many people are so mentally ill about houses that i don,t know what I can say. I have been attacked so many times in my own houses over the years that I really don,t think I want to help "serious joe" who won,t be real about anything. (Post deleted by staff ) vivv_00: i`m renting until the real estate market becomes reasonable. if no one`s buying, something will have to give. robbing from the rich to give to the poor is on the minds of many, these days. if the government takes more money from the rich, they`ll just line their own pockets (and those of their puppeteers)....and do what else? give a few more bucks to welfare recipients? more foodstamps? the worst ever: It all comes to one simple sentence. You have to be really stupid or rich, to pay x 5 for something. duncan124: I think it was well said back there in one of the threads that you have to be stupid to believe taxing the rich will ever help the poor. Sarcastic Dots: "If you Mr.sarcastic are so concerned about these homeless people and squatters,maybe you should consider moving out of your residence and allow these less fortunate souls to move in" Volunteer at the salvation army at this time of year and take part in various other charity work all year round (though not to do with the homeless- the mentally and physically disabled, who would arguuably end up on the street if you had your way). So come again, ohnonotthatguy? Edit: Besides, I don't think you know what squatting is. Squatting is the act of living in an empty house, not an occupied one. So again, who is that hurting? Seriously, who? (Edited by Sarcastic Dots)  ColonelKusanagi: know why taxing the rich will never help the poor? because that money is then used by the rich in a trickle up fashion. no one is asking for the rich to be over taxed, just that they pay their damn taxes in general and stop trying to suck the life out of the rest of us. ohnonotthatguy: ( .......arguably end up on the street if you had your way). The mentally and physically disabled,elderly, orphans or children that are displaced by natural causes and war should and must be housed,cared for regardless anywhere on this world. Able and strong bodies should not live on handouts nor in so called "squatters" Merry Christmas and peace to all (Post deleted by staff ) (Post deleted by staff ) ColonelKusanagi: perhaps it's because of the name of the thread ... but yeah, the topic wasn't about mooching. time to drop it, shove it and stick it, respectively. if you folks want to argue entitlement, by all means jump into a thread about it or make your own Its our right and responsibility to learn the laws and it's in our best interests to know them. they're constantly changing and we haven't got a close enough eye to see and know why, it's scary and getting worse. (Post deleted by staff ) | Politics Chat Room 68 People Chatting Similar Conversations |