North American Union Real

stephinrazin: It turns out the North American Union is real. A wikileaks cable 05OTTAWA26 from 2005 from Ambassador Paul Callucci to the embassy in Canada describes the plan in detail. There is an article at the New American.Com. Goto the World News Heading and then North America. I guess that conspiracy has moved into the realm of reality.

davidk14: .

I went to that site and read the article. The "dots" have been there...it's just now that the dots are being connected.

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LiptonCambell: I'm sorry, but after mountains of bullshit from these kinds of beliefs, I reject this conspiracy.

davidk14: .

Lipton,

Do the research young man, research. Then decide for yourself.

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LiptonCambell: It seems that the "research" is endless, though.

davidk14: Research can be endless. Being open to change is important.

LiptonCambell: It just seems like the kinds of videos and articles on the "New World Order" or whatever variation, seem to make too many assumptions, too self-referring, and too omnipotent. Its based on Paranoia.

I bet someone out there is working on a video today linking the recent Royal Wedding to the New World Order.

davidk14: .

Lipton,

There are those that produce "reference materials" and documents saying the Holocaust never happened even though there is irrefutable evidence to the contrary. The information available regarding borderless countries, a one world currency, the UN, the WMF, are endless and should be considered when deciding if countries borders and sovereignty are being attacked.

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LiptonCambell: Oh I agree its endless. Thats why I don't even bother. But having alot of video and articles in existence doesn't prove squat. Imagine the untold number of articles written on Alchemy.

stephinrazin: I am afraid if you are unwilling to research anything you will never know anything. If you rely on others do to your thinking for you then you are little more than sheep for the slaughter. It is easy to ignore reality, but one day it will be all too real. The NAU is happening. It will take some time, but I doubt it can be stopped.

I suppose there will be a major economic catastrophe, and the cure will be a the North American Community. People will beg for anything to solve a woe. Hegelian dialectic always works.

LiptonCambell: Why is it that only people with Youtube have these kinds of principals, stephin? I mean, if random people all over the world can be so principaled as to see this web of lies and deceit, why can't CBS, or ABC, or BBC, or even Al Jazzera? Wouldn't this be big news for them?

Or are you saying these people have their claws in EVERY MAJOR NEW SOURCE IN THE WORLD, in every medium except Youtube and various blogs? And why is Youtube exempt from this cabal? If they're as powerful as you say, they could roll over Youtube in their sleep.....

I think alot of this has to do with your psychological need that, in the end, theres order in the chaos- that theres someone pulling the strings, and its not really all chaotic and disorganized.

stephinrazin: If you are unwilling to research anything how will you know whether there is a cabal in charge? I do not know. I don't think I have ever made that claim. I may have alluded to it, but I make no claim that a secret elite rule the world.

As far as this thread is concerned the NAU is very real. It has been discussed, and there is plenty of evidence for it.
Did you read the cable?

It may be conjecture to use that to prove a New World Order, but it does raise an eyebrow.

I am doubtful of my psychological need for there to be an explainable organized conspiracy. All I know is what I have figured out through research, and from personal experience. If you have not experienced my life, or done the reading I have I would not expect you to believe what I believe.

The point is that you refuse to research so you cannot say that it is not so.

In Tragedy and Hope by Carrol Quigley the role of a few dozen men in guiding political affairs of the 20th century is well chronicled. Quigley is not some fringe conspiracy author. He was a Georgetown professor, and Bill Clinton's mentor.

The evidence of a few well connected people exercising great influence is out there.

Once again if you will not look you will not know. Your doubts are invalidated by your refusal to pursue information.

Outbackjack: I have only one word to add:

Amero

Poilwag: http://www.lemonparty.org/lemonparty.jpg

stephinrazin: Sorry for spaming I know it is annoying, but it is very pertinent to this thread.

Recent Wikileaks documents confirm what some of us have been warning about for years, that plans for a North American Union dismissed by many as a conspiracy theory are indeed real. With Canada and the U.S. pursuing a trade and security perimeter agreement which could later include Mexico, it has once again highlighted the whole process of North American integration. This deep-rooted agenda has permeated our schools, universities and other learning institutions. Through various initiatives, the future leaders of tomorrow are being indoctrinated to view themselves as North American citizens as opposed to Canadians, Mexicans or Americans.

In 2005, the North American Forum on Integration (NAFI) a Montreal based think tank pushing for closer continental ties organized the Triumvirate, a North American Model Legislature which meets once a year. The exercise brings together university students from Canada, Mexico and the U.S. with participants assigned the roles of legislators, journalists or lobbyists. Over the years, the mock parliament has debated and drafted resolutions concerning trade corridors, consolidating North American governance, immigration, NAFTA’s Chapter 11, along with the creation of a continental investment fund and a customs union. Many of the issues discussed mirror plans for deeper integration. In a press release from the first Triumvirate, NAFI proclaimed that a North American Parliament is Born. With efforts to establish a common security perimeter, future steps towards political union could bring about the creation of an actual North American Assembly made up of representatives from all three countries. This could also include the adoption of a continental charter of rights.

stephinrazin: The Triumvirate 2011 will be held at Arizona State University - Tempe Campus from May 29 to June 3. The objectives of the event include, “To allow participants to familiarize themselves with the functioning of democratic institutions, as well as North American political, economic, environmental and social realities; to develop the participants’ sense of belonging to North America (and) to increase intercultural exchanges and promote the creation of academia networks.” This year’s delegates will address topics such as freight transportation infrastructure, fostering green building practices, as well as North American guest worker programs. The model legislature is seen as an opportunity for students to better understand the political process and the challenges facing the continent. Through the whole proceedings, participants are encouraged to view North America as a single entity.

In an article from several years back, Steve Watson, writer and editor for Infowars.net and Prisonplanet.com described the mock parliament exercise as, “another example of an overarching movement on behalf of globalist business leaders and politicians to merge the three nations of North America into an EU like federation.” He added, “Integration meetings such as the NAFI Triumvirate are simulations of the exact practices currently being undertaken by the SPP and its offshoot organizations. The NAFI Triumvirate is designed to familiarize ‘future Canadian, American and Mexican leaders’ with the processes involved in such practices.” Watson also pointed out that missing from the whole activity is any simulated opposition to the agenda being presented. While the Triumvirate does promote a sense of cooperation, its lasting influence is instilling participants with the importance of thinking North American.

The 2005 Council on Foreign Relations report, Building a North American Community has been used as a blueprint for deep continental integration. Many of its recommendations became part of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) and continue today with plans for a North American security perimeter. The policy paper also advocated the creation of a network of centers for North American studies. It proposed that, “the three governments open a competition and provide grants to universities in each of the three countries to promote courses, education and research on North America and assist elementary and secondary schools in teaching about North America.” In addition, the report recommended developing, “teacher exchange training programs for elementary and secondary school teachers. This would assist in removing language barriers and give some students a greater sense of a North American identity.”

stephinrazin: In his article The Future of North America, Robert Pastor, one of the leading proponents of continental integration proclaimed, “To educate a new generation of students to think North American, each country should begin by supporting a dozen centers for North American studies. Each center should educate students, undertake research, and foster exchanges with other North American universities for both students and faculty.” The Center for North American Studies at American University in Washington, D.C., “was established to educate a new generation of students, to promote policy debate among the governments and the public, and to undertake research on ideas for a continental future.” Arizona State University also founded the North American Center for Transborder Studies whose vision is, “to promote a safer, more prosperous, more competitive, more cooperative, and more sustainable North American region.” These various learning institutions, along with other initiatives are part of the ongoing efforts to further condition and train a new generation into accepting a North American consciousness.

The ideology of globalization is deeply embedded in the corporate structure, mass media, government, as well as in the whole educational system. Together, they are working to shape the minds of the next generation. Students at all levels are being indoctrinated to conform to universal values and standards. Under a new global order, there is no room for sovereignty or individuality.

Garo_Ra: it won't happen... more than likely the EU will collapse this century. the desire for international regionalism is dead.