GSA Lavish Las Vegas Conference (Page 2) OCD_OCD: You'd think that there would be SOMEBODY overseeing spending....not just overseeing, but doing something about the profligate spending that has gone on in the past, is going on now and is increasing as we speak. The government wants to pay lip service to cutting spending, but no one is doing it. This is what disgusts me.  StuckInTheSixties: david says: "For anyone to point the finger at the Bush administration regarding spending close to a billion dollars of taxpayers money on a meeting in Vegas, is completely ignorant." Yet it's entirely possible that no one actually pointed any finger at Bush, isn't it? That this was entirely made up ...? OCD_OCD: It seems to me what they were saying is that the spending began under the Bush Administration. It is probably true, but is that an excuse to continue, and even expand, bad policy? StuckInTheSixties: OCD says: "It seems to me what they were saying is ..." Maybe you guys are missing my point. The entire purpose of the Fox article is to say that someone from "the [Obama] administration" ... "they", as you just put it ... is trying to shift the blame for this scandal to Bush. The point I'm making is that the article made no attempt to say WHO said this. It could be anyone. It could be no one. It's the most critical part of the story, yet it's left out. Without that part of the story ... WHO is pointing the finger at Bush ... ... there is no story. This is either a case of ~ terrible editing on the part of Fox - there should have been an editor saying: "Who said this? Put a name in this story." ... or ... ~ it's just made up bullshit. Either way, there's no credibility to this story. OCD_OCD: My point was not who is pointing fingers at whom, but whether it is true or not. It looks like it is true that the GSA is now, and has been, spending without anyone doing any oversight. StuckInTheSixties: Yes, Fox, ABC, CNN, and everyone else is reporting on the GSA spending scandal. That's a newsworthy story, and obviously should be reported. And I understand that your point of making this thread was to highlight that story, not to highlight the "Bush accusation" aspect. But david introduced to this thread the idea of the Obama administration shifting the blame to Bush by his reference to the Fox article, and you plainly implied you're buying into that idea yourself with this statement: "It seems to me what they were saying is that the spending began under the Bush Administration." You made that statement even though I'd pointed out that "they" weren't identified in the Fox article. So are you now continuing to buy that (apparently) baseless accusation, or are you now backtracking and now not buying into that baseless accusation? StuckInTheSixties: Well, that "they" is obvious. That's saying Fox wrote the Fox article. What's the point of THAT?!? OCD_OCD: How about this? Let's just scratch everything and get to the point about whether anyone should have bothered to look into spending by the GSA and other Federal agencies. As I said before, I don't care who the hell started it, the point is why it isn't being stopped in its tracks. OCD_OCD: My comment about "they believe" is just that. They believe what they said. Period. Nothing nefarious.  southern77: the obama administration is who said it was the fault of the Bush administration for the gsa and the lavish spending and outlandish bounses in of all places but vegas. now im sure someone will try and pick apart my comment StuckInTheSixties: That comment was picked apart before you posted it. I'll try again with you: WHO in the Obama administration said that? If you're asserting that there was some official declaration made by the Obama Administration to that effect, then document that here, please. Please don't ask ME to do so. Don't as ME to do YOUR legwork for YOU as you've asked before. If it's YOUR assertion, than it's up to YOU to document that assertion. southern77: you are such a goofball... its like you think your right and everyone else is wrong in there opinion and here to serve you and your questions and be damn if anyone disagrees with you... 60s... and not one news service has said exactly with person in the obama administraion said anything at all about any subject... yet it was still said and is all over the national and local news cast im sorry that you feel the need to so desperatly to defend and support president obama... i now expect you to say that you dont or havent ever supported obama or anyone else for that matter, which is typical for a person like you... always thinking that your opinon is right and everyone else is wrong obama now has a record of trying his best to hold the office of president of the United States of America and in my humble opinon he has failed in every way that a human being can possibly fail at the job and i cant wait for november so a new president can be elected and get the worlds best and strongest country the world has ever seen get back on track for bigger and better things StuckInTheSixties: southern77 says: "i now expect you to say that you dont or havent ever supported obama ..." You are correct, sir. southern77: and yet you so desperatly try to defend the man ... go figure... which is every AMERICANS right and nobody else.... so there you go StuckInTheSixties: You misunderstand my motives. I read stuff. I see stuff that I perceive as being either factually incorrect, hypocritical, unfair, unsubstantiated, or that I find objectionable for some reason. And I comment on that. So there you go. southern77: and your repetitiveness is getting boring... so keep telling yourself each time that you arent supporting the current administration and the rest of us will chuckle to ourselves about it... now in honor of lavander star... good day to you StuckInTheSixties: No one is forcing you to read my posts, or forcing you to reply to them. If you have any objection to anything I post, feel free to report them to Wireclub Administration. | Politics Chat Room 19 People Chatting Similar Conversations |