Mayor Plans To Ban Coke, Pepsi, all soft drinks and sweet drinks... (Page 3) LiptonCambell: I don't think there's any reason to protect an idiot from themselves. Nor do I think we should charge the idiot for the service of protecting them from themselves Nor do i think we should all be charged equally for the service of protecting the idiot from themselves. Let the idiot do with their body what they will- freedom is having the freedom to making the wrong choices in life.  Hyenablood: then we all end up with the fredom of paying higher taxes every few years because the idiots now has over-weight issues, diabetes, breathing problems, etc. Sure everyone is free, including idiots who make money off of creating sugar-filled drinks, and fat-filled foods. Do you want your taxes to go up every year to pay for the 'freedom' to act like idiots with their health ?  Serabi: Raise medical aids tarriffs and aircraft seat prices according to weight. Some obese people does have a serious medical problem - a mouth! LiptonCambell: >>>Do you want your taxes to go up every year to pay for the 'freedom' to act like idiots with their health ? No, I don't think any of our tax dollars should go towards paying for other peoples health- there should not be a national healthcare system. And to insinuate that, because there *is* a national healthcare, that we should be told what to eat and how much to eat is ridiculous. Nothing should give you that kind of power to meddle in peoples lives like that- and if you are so interested in saving money, then you should support the abolishment of the federal healthcare system altogether- not the abolishment of the right to decide what goes into your body.... (Edited by LiptonCambell)  davidk14: . Raise the tax on cane sugar, beet sugar and corn syrup to outrageous levels.just like the outrageous tax on tobacco for the same exact reason. . LiptonCambell: But, again, we pay taxes to subsidize farmers who grow corn- essentially, the government gives farmers more money than the corn is worth, and sells it at less money than they paid the farmers- this keeps corn cheap at a huge cost to the tax payers..... And now you're suggesting we tax it so it's expensive again? So we're spending money to make it cheap, then spending even more money to make it expensive again? In what world does that make any sense? davidk14: . "Corn is the top crop for subsidy payments. The Energy Policy Act of 2005 mandates that billions of gallons of ethanol be blended into vehicle fuel each year, guaranteeing demand, but US corn ethanol subsidies are between $5.5 billion and $7.3 billion per year. Producers also benefitted from a federal subsidy of 51 cents per gallon, additional state subsidies, and federal crop subsidies that can bring the total to 85 cents per gallon or more. However, the federal ethanol subsidy expired December 31, 2011.[16] (US corn-ethanol producers were shielded from competition from cheaper Brazilian sugarcane-ethanol by a 54-cent-per-gallon tariff, however that tariff also expired December 31, 2011.[17][18])" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy ____________________________ Information regarding corn and other... http://www.epa.gov/oecaagct/ag101/cropmajor.html .  Sarcastic Dots: I don't think people realise that there is good fat and bad fat; there is good sugar and bad sugar. In America, the vast majority of pop isn't made from natural sugars, hence why you have "classic coke" and "classic dr pepper". Sarcastic Dots: Nah. Coke classic is made with sugar cane, where as normal coke is made with artificial sweeteners. Sarcastic Dots: From Dr Pepper wiki Much of the soft drink industry in the United States stopped using sugar in the 1980s, in response to a series of price supports and import quotas introduced beginning in 1982 that increased the price of sugar above the global market price. As a result, most U.S. soft drinks, including Dr Pepper, now use high fructose corn syrup instead of sugar. ... On March 25, 2007, Coca-Cola bottlers in the Dr Pepper Heartland commenced sales of 16 ounce cans of Dr Pepper made with cane sugar and featuring a logo with 'Old Doc' on them. This product is scheduled to be a limited time release. (Edited by Sarcastic Dots) Hyenablood: you do realize that fructose corn syrup is just filled with sugar right ? it's just trading one sugar for another. Sarcastic Dots: you do realize that fructose corn syrup is just filled with sugar right ? it's just trading one sugar for another. "there is good sugar and bad sugar" We're going in circles here. Besides: " NEW YORK -- High fructose corn syrup won't get a wholesome new name after all. The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday rejected the Corn Refiners Association's bid to rename its sweetening agent "corn sugar." Given the sweetener's bad reputation in recent years, the association submitted an application to the agency in 2010 to have the product renamed on nutrition labels. But the FDA said that it defines sugar as a solid, dried and crystallized food – not a syrup." Etceteranough: Pretty soon there will be pedestrian helmet laws to protect us from the hard surfaces of the unforgiving outdoor world. | Politics Chat Room 77 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
