McDonalds (Page 4)

LiptonCambell: Jack bumped this? Why? He hasn't addressed anything said in this thread in years....

dave3974: well said thai , the food realy is not that good in mcdonalds

nellie77: In Australia they introduced the healthy menu of salads and lean burgers, and fruit juice..
In my honest opinion i found them great, on my lunch breaks i would go in and sit for an hour with my laptop with free net satellite..
I would watch the mothers groups with their children happy and the parents getting that bit of respite whilst the children played on Safe playground equipment..

Where can you get this? I'm now living in the middle east and i Honestly havn't found anything like it, i miss my black cofee and my blueberry muffins..

nellie77: ^ Close them before people die form this shit food" sorry but i think thats a pretty big statement to make...
And i love all types of food including rice and noodles, will i die if i eat Thai food? lol

LiptonCambell: It really comes down to moderation- eating MacDonalds everyday cannot be healthy for you- but if you enjoy it in moderation, it'll be a tasty treat(if you like that kinda thing....I'mma Wendy's fan, personally)

EatAtJose: Don't have time to read every post right now, but I definitely agree something should be done about fast food chains, especially McDonalds. I haven't eaten at any fast food joint in going on 2 years now, aside from Subway. I definitely feel healthier, can't even stand the smell of that shite now.

LiptonCambell: And thats wonderful Joe. I think theres nothing wrong with boycotting business's you don't like.

But "doing something" about a business because you don't like it is ridiculous. Give people the same respect they are giving you- allow people to make decisions on their diet, even if you do not agree with it.

EatAtJose: Fair enough. I honestly don't give a shit what people choose to eat, but I think they shouldn't advertise their food as 'healthy'.

EatAtJose: What's sad is that it's cheaper to go eat a fast food meal than it is to buy ingredients for a decent meal and cook it at home.

nellie77: there is a healthy menu also at Mcdonalds, you can't blame fast food chains for bad diets lol...
Its up to the individual what they eat...

LiptonCambell: >>>I think the fast food kill moore people today than cigarettes

lmao and is this a thought, or is it supported by any facts?

I think car exhaust kills more people than cigarettes- but thinking it doesn't make it true- and making up "facts" to support your opinion makes you look foolish.

>>>and many people in many countries want to forbid cigarettes for sale and smoking.

And that would be a mistake for the same reasons why it would be a mistake to ban fast foods- because people should be treated with respect when it comes to their own personal health. Not everything available on the market is ultimately healthy for you, especially when compared to healthier choices- but individuals should be permitted to make their own choices on their own health and diet. Clearly you have made your own choices regarding your diet and health- would you appreciate it if others forced their preferences onto you?

(also, claiming "many people want this" is a logical fallacy- saying something is popular doesn't make it right)

>>>If goverments want people to be healthy they have to do same rules with junk food as other unhealthy thing thay want to forbid, like cigarettes.

And if people wish to be free, they would reject such a notion, as you can clearly see they have done for centuries.

Informed consumers can make decisions on their own- grown adults do not need to be protected from themselves, and I do not pay taxes to protect me from myself, regardless if you feel my choices are folly. They are MY choices to make, not yours.

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>>>but I think they shouldn't advertise their food as 'healthy'.

I feel the same way with people who sell "Organic" food as healthy- just because you sell a vegetarian meal or a meal made with organic food doesn't mean its any healthier....

>>>What's sad is that it's cheaper to go eat a fast food meal than it is to buy ingredients for a decent meal and cook it at home.

Bulk food comes with a discount- add in the mix that, oftentimes, the food served in fast food restaurants aren't exactly prime, and you can easily see WHY it is so cheap.

What alternative are you suggesting?

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>>>there is a healthy menu also at Mcdonalds

Joes comments earlier, about "Health" foods being not all that healthy, though, is a fair argument to make against companies such as McDonalds, though....I mean, unless I'm mistaken, alot of Healthfood sold there is actually less healthy than their junkfood...

nellie77: Well my belief is everything in moderation is good... I can't eat healthy all the time, sometimes people like to try different things.
In Many countries there are allot of different food chains that are very succesful at marketing their products, fast food outlets such as Mcdonalds are appealing for allot of people, thats why they stay in business and i think thats a good thing because it creates jobs all over the world.
And i have a question for you Thaigirl, i have tried many Thai dishes in Australia ( very nice) but my favourite dish was the coconut rice and the thai green seafood dish. It had a sweet flavor and filled with lots of fattening delicious ingredients... Now i could've opted for the salad but like i was saying before everything is in moderation... What do you think?

LiptonCambell: >>>Does everthing have to be facts Cambell

When discussing laws and freedoms? Yes, in that instance, it oughta be a legitimate fact- not made up garbage that only suits your selfish agenda.

>>>If i use my mintd and think or belive something, my opinion make me look folish, you say.

Using your mind to form opinions and telling people how to live their lives based on nothing but your own prejudices have nothing to do with one another. You stated, "fast food kill moore people today than cigarettes"- asking that you back that up is not out of line.

Making shit up, and demanding that laws be passed because of your own delusions, however, is.

>>>People bulding their belive only on facts reely don have any own belive.

LMAO! What utter new-age bullshit!

Okay, lets go with that- You believe that Fast Food is less healthy than, say, a typical thai meal. Lets say that I think that fast food is not only healthy, but is medical, and heals wounds. And I think thai food is poison.

Using your logic, you don't have any right to question my beliefs. McDonald's heals the blind! Thai food gives you cancer! That's a fact cause I thought of it!

>>>Dont you belive that junkchains manipulate the facts and want us to belive what suits them like the cigarette industrie do when start say cigarettes is not good for health.

And thankfully, we know better- we have both competing industries and government agencies explaining what is and is not healthy. Do you think those people are pulling shit out of their asses, as you have clearly done on this forum?

>>>What facts is there to trusty then, other than your personel belive.

I guess you can't trust anyone.

Although clearly that isn't the case- you clearly trust some groups over others.

>>>In some countries tha junk restaurant have to write on the menubourd whats in the food, thats good.

And that oughta be available in McDonald's. It certainly is locally. I don't disagree with informed consumers- let the consumer know what they are buying and what it will do to them, and let them be responsible for what they put in their bodies- no one else.

>>>Where junk is a big problem for health thay can do same as cigarettes and have tax on junk so it make healty food chaeeper.

How do you suppose that is? If healthy food is expensive, and junk food is cheap, and you tax junk food to make it just as expensive as healthy food, then healthy food AND junk food is expensive...

Or are you (obtusely) suggesting that tax dollars make health food cheaper? Cause if more and more people choose healthy food over junk food, that would mean less and less taxes are received, and thus healthy food costs would rise.....ironically, what you are suggesting REQUIRES people to pay for junk food to keep prices down....

>>>And if look at america, the big free countrie, maybe many people need to be protect frome themselves in some cases.

The cry of a fascist. What is so evil about allowing informed, mature adults from making their own decisions? Haven't you been given that opportunity? Why do you suggest others do not?

>>>What your belive Cambell, not the dry facts; your belive.

I believe in the facts, and I reject anyone who would make shit up and demand it affect how their country is run.

HardcoreHerbivore: Rotten Ronnie`s.I am a vegetarian.I don`t eat there.If a person wants to eat food with no nutritional value.....good luck.

LiptonCambell: >>> I said i think

And these thoughts were the basis for why you think there should be laws or additional taxes on fast food- because you THINK it kills more people than cigarettes. Its juvenile.

>>>You moore interested in pick a part other meanings than come with your own

Haven't I made my own opinion clear on this? People should be permitted to choose their own health and diets, not have it thrust upon them by people with a "holier-than-thou" attitude.

I find my opinion to be fair, and your opinion to be oppressive. Grown adults should be responsible for their own health, and McDonald's is not responsible for protecting people from the consequences their choices.

Furthermore, your opinion could ONLY been formed if individuals before you had enough tolerance and respect for you to make your own choices in life. Had the people who came before you had the same kind of attitude towards other peoples rights as you do, you wouldn't have the opportunity to condemn others for disagreeing with you.

That's all I ask for- you respect the thoughts and liberties of other people, as they have respected yours.

If you feel my thoughts are somehow flawed, please, "pick apart" my thoughts. Because I feel your thoughts are severely flawed.

memberX: Females can't cook, so Mc Do, will make some more money.

calybonos: I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes

mbokani345: Macdonalds is cheap anyone can afford its good for the poor but not good for your health u Can eat sometime but dont make it ur staple food cause u will expand like a baloon