jim-jim!: How tied with the US economy is this nasty business? do you think it's possible to ban such an entrenched icon?
franklin1950: to my understanding ; the second amendment ensures the citizens ability to overthrow a corropt/ injust government .
the self defence aspects of gun ownership is self evident .
here in canada we have nothing similar to the u. s. a. second amendment . to bad for us .
franklin1950: just noticed jimni is from australia .
how is the gun control situation in australia ?
dantheman225: guns don't kill people,people kill people!!!a man without a gun is a subject!!a man with gun is a citizen!!
Nick_kciN: A person without a gun can kill,
A person with a gun can kill many things quickly,
To overthrow a government, just stop listening to them, no need for guns.
Guns for defense against.. more guns..
While guns remain in almost every movie, (and glorified at that) it will be driven into the desires of our children.
Thatcdnguy eh!: Maybe we shouldn't control the guns eh...maybe we should control the ammunition for the guns...without that...then they are inert eh.....
Ms.: Good point Canadian. Why is it that so many gun advocates conveniently forget that a person who owns a gun is far more likely to have that gun used against them? Maybe gun advocates ought to give the fact that many children die due to playing with guns a thought. Don't even bother saying that it wouldn't happen if people stored guns correctly. Obviously as a whole, gun owners are incapable of keeping guns out of the hands of young children.
The life of a child vs being able to carry a gun, hmmmm. Pretty much a no brainer on that one. THE LIFE OF A CHILD IS FAR MORE VALUABLE!
Hand guns have 1 purpose - to kill people.
How much is your child's life worth? The cost of the one bullet that gets accidentally shot into their body,by a GUN?
GUNS DO KILL PEOPLE! Children die because of loaded guns.
Which is greater, the right of a child to live or your right to own a gun?
Life is far more valuable than a gun.
Monthma: Can you show me where a gun has attacked anyone??? Neither gun, nor ammo has willingly harmed anyone. There are accidents, but that is because some people feel that there kids should be able to in some way have easy access to it, which is a bigger problem then having a gun. And you can’t control something that isn’t alive, whit the logic of “gun control” we can start to try and “control” sticks and stones too, they have been known to harm people (but then there have been a person making it do the harm …if the person didn’t fall against the stick or stone…).
jim-jim!: go travelling man.... I have personally seen people who have been shot, not by accident or with guns that are designed for any other purpose but to kill people... it's easy to arm the insane. This argument is always going to be tricky.... so it's good to hear your thoughts but, mate, some very terrible deeds have been done & the people making the money out of it are not very sweet.
Monthma: Saying that weapons should be taken away because some (or most) are use to kill will null the argument, as the ones to give up there weapons are the ones who don’t want it to hurt someone (but don’t realise that they need a weapon to defend themselves). As I said, even if guns would get banned, there would be blades of all kinds, after that you got sticks and rocks, you can’t try and “control” something for what some ignorant, brained washed people are doing. Sticks, stones and fists will be used when other things aren’t around. Now, bombs, grenades and such are a different thing, as they are designed to case death, not harm or just frighten the aggressor.
dantheman225: This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” Adolf Hitler!experts agree!!gun control works!
Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA — ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the state.” - Heinrich Himmler.experts agree!!!gun control works!
On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons!experts agree gun control works!
Thatcdnguy eh!: I understand what you are saying Monthma...
Gun control does not keep them out of the hands of the people who will use them for illegal activities eh...or the Gov't which would use them to start wars/conflicts...the best gun control really is to have people not use them in that fashion...a change in Humanity eh...to one were conflicts of any kind are resolved..or prevented from happening to begin with....
If I am following your train of thought right....
KidBlaze98: On this issue, I gonna take the cheap way out and use the Chris Rock philosophy. We need bullet control, not gun control...if one bullet cost $50,000 each you would think twice before you kill someone. But, seriously what will banning guns accomplish? Ever heard of 6 million ways to die?
Ms.: The gun advocates must be right
It's only a HUMAN BEING!
I'm sure there's another one right around the corner. Hey WTF - shoot that person while your at it, I'm sure there's another one around the corner.
As for "Show me a gun..." how about "Show me a rock..." . Same lame argument.
F~&# gun control - get rid of every last one of them. Rights in the US?
You have got to be kidding me on that one.
"FREE SPEECH ZONE." Covers that one.
ShootyMcBang: just don't listen to the government one says: That's a very effective protest I'd say. Just ask the descendants of the 6million Jews and the 12 million Christians
slaughtered at hands of their "oh so loving governments" during the 1930's and 1940's. Or maybe a more convincing response could be sought from people who lost loved ones as Lenin and Stalin forced starvation, murder and mayhem on 30 million Russian brothers and sisters. May be we shouldn't even think about the 60 million Chinese citizens wipe off of the face of the planet at the at the whim of the Maoist Red Regime and still continuing to day. Heck what does it matter that 1.3 million Iraq citizens are no longer with us. we didn't know them , they must not count. there is not enough space here to outline how gun control has led to the slaughter of populations through out history. Disarming a nation always precedes these attrocites. when your government comes for your son, your daughter, your farm or mansion, and your vote what are you gonna do about it. May I suggest NOTHING. Because they will have taken your choices too. If guns were not paramount to move forward an agenda, why then do we send our kids to war armed with them. Give me liberty. For those that don't want it take their guns. those same people probably will not have a problem housing your armies in their quarters either. I mean ignoring the government is working for them.
Joe24pack: I want to tell you all I shot handguns
competativly for 12 years. I quit because
of my eyes and age of course. I never had
an accident and my kids never got my guns.
People in the USA that own guns who are not
responsible enough to keep their kids from
getting their guns get charged by law, if it
is a serious mishap the penalty can be severe
for the gun owner.
Now that being said I want to tell you I am
in no way pushing for guns. What I push for
is strict laws, strict crown attorneys and
strict judges, like penalties given in Texas
as an example without the capital punishment.
It is cheaper to keep someone for 80 years in
jail than it is to hang them, and they do keep
people in jail all their lives in Texas who never
I will close with one notable interesting fact.
You can all look this up, just search "Oklahoma's
Make My Day Law". Before that law was passed in
Oklahoma Oklahoma had 52,000 burglaries per year.
After the law passed burglaries dropped to 34,000.
Now don't tell me guns don't work because they do
work in the right hands. To date 11 intruders
have been shot to death, those guns did what legislators
wanted them to do. Usually something as simple as
saying "stop or I will shoot" is enough to make
most intruders scatter. Saying "stop or I will call
the police" is not as effective and Oklahoma as well
as other jurisdictions know that. They also know
911 might not make it in time to help the homeowner.
WAYTOBIG: Well said JOE24Pack
Never did I or my friends go hunting with a 9mm hand gun.
If governments want to stop guns why do them give permits to companies to manufacture such guns and bullets
Mayor of Toronto,Canada want hand guns out of his city.but grants a license and permits to a company to make them less then 1 mile from his office.
ShootyMcBang: Automobiles kill children each year also. There is no movement to ban automobiles. Also, if guns are out lawed how will that prevent criminals from using guns in crimes? Very, very few crimes are committed by those who legally possess firearms.
franklin1950: gun sales are up . one company , 80% .
if the second amendment was established so that the citizens can over throw a corrupt teranical government if one ever happens .
a legilly resistered gun gives this hypothetical bad government your name , adress , make model , thumb print and picture .
otcclass: Well if HR 45 Bill gets passed it is going get mighty hard to get a gun....A LOT harder then it is right now... You think that waiting 45 days or so to obtain a gun is outrageous you should google bill HR45 and see what it will do if passed. All it has to do now is go through the Senate...
quiver: I own several firearms. they r lethal in the right hands. and dangours in the worng hands. And u r worng(looking 4 a fight) firearms don not kill people, people kill people, With gross missuse of firearms.If ppl donot recive the traning to competently understan the potential hazard of firearms then accadental disscharge of a firearme will occure. It is still the responsability of the owner,and is still subjected buy law if injory or death occours. but that is in canada. Personal they r not a gun, such as a toy show some respect please. if a person cant manage there respect or lack of such a hazardus tool. That person should not own or have in his/hers possession.Persay(latin for insite) THE WAITING PERIOD. and even then ppls rights and a freedomS ,ppl should have the right to posses one. This is my oppion and im aggressive toword ignorance of such toppics that im so familiar to. No disrespect to the other viewers. I am a compentent shooter. And have found that ppl with no skills to this sport or shooting in general,have found that they have enjoyed it and have build confendence,
in the respect of the tool as well as the ppl who help handel the firemars as
well.THEY ALLWAYS HAVE HAD AGRIN ON THERE FACES AFTER THE DAY WAS DONE.Its saposed to bee fun.Dosent mean that u r not intitled to your objections. Go for it but i might not even read it, nor respond