Right to keep/own and bear arms. atilawolf: How do any of you out here feel about this the second amendment to the U.S. constitution?I personally feel it is of great necessity ,it gained us the right to establish the U.S. as a sovereign entity .It also serves as a reminder to the governing powers that we can take it back again if need be ,sort of a failsafe if everything goes quite wrong and against the will of the general populace.This is so we the people can defend ourselves against threats both external and internal. Atomic_Rooster: its our right to bear arms i agree with u bro one day obama and his crew might need to be dealt with but seriously we the people should be able to possess guns for protection for our family and the country..ever see red dawn? aBadInfluence: America is not gonna be a place to be. Obama is not gonna fix anything just there to finish bushes work is all. ♠_Krash_♠: Ahh gun nuts ya gotta love em 4 times the number of people killed in 9/11 are murdered by guns every year in the u.s.. Awww hell,maybe you should be allowed to have rocket launchers and landmines as well,what the hell,you should be allowed to have your own mini nuke,you never know,canada might invade you john1576: Krash. Your automobile breaks down on a deserted road. You find it has just run out of Gas. You decide to walk the 3 miles to fill a can of Gas. Would you feel safe leaving your wife and daughter with a handgun while you leave them to get the Gas.? ♠_Krash_♠: 1 - I'd never run out of gas,i wouldnt do that to a 5.7 litre v8 2- I'd have roadside assistance 3- I wouldn't leave my woman and child alone even if they had a bazooka Gun laws here were introduced in the 90's and guess what happened? Murders by guns dropped Crimes by guns dropped The stats dont lie... john1576: It was the Dunblane incident that turned people against Guns here. But what was never made public was that Hamilton was persecuted and driven insane by a witch hunt that accused him of being a paedophile. They through buckets filled with slops in his face while they cam corded it and laughed. They jeered at him in the street and made accusations about him. Did he molest any kids? no, did he have any child porn? no. People just accused him of being a paedophile and drove him around the bend.  candyrivers: i would feel safe while my husband walked three miles without me, but then again I live in England where there are no gun toting idiots. What a dumb question. Of course I would be safe on a road - d'uh john1576: So the Austrian woman Tourist who was gang raped and thrown into the Thames in London a few years ago was safe? The young woman who was picked up and carried into a park by four guys in Liverpool and gang raped (this was in broad daylight) was safe? Rachel Nickel who was raped and stabbed to death in broad daylight on Wimbledon common was safe? Where about in England do you live Candy? If they had handguns they would be alive now or would not have been raped. candyrivers: Crime happens all over the world, for every austrian woman, there are 50 million that are just having a normal day. If they had handguns my arse. Does rape ever happen in America? Where people have handguns, cos if you have one, you need to use it or get it taken off you and be shot with it youself. You have to keep realistic about it all. The very idea of everyone having access to guns, it is truly stupid. atilawolf: The right to self protection is an implied one often over looked in a government run by lawyers ,apparently they need it spelled out in black and white.If you study Jefferson and his colleges one will see that protection from future tyranny was on their mind knowing that absolute power corrupts.As for gun related crime if you take legal guns away that will still leave all of the illegal ones.as an urban resident who has lived in "the hood" a few times I have seen that they are quite a few of them .To that point I would put forth a good defense is the best defense ,in other the more legal and competent gun carrying citizens there are the greater deterrent there will be to these criminals and thugs.Ask your local police officer what they carry off duty. atilawolf: Candy it is stupid to use anything one does not know how to use.A gun like any other machine is something one should be familiar and comfortable with before using in unsupervised circumstances.I agree that an untrained novice can get in a lot of trouble ,that is why we have a rigorous certification program for concealed carry here in Virginia. candyrivers: the police do not carry guns in England under normal circumstances. An armed response unit would need to be called in specially. And exactly where have the illegal guns come from, maybe stolen from homeowners. You have then there, they wont be taken away. We dont want or need them here thanks very much. atilawolf: Many are legally purchased but illegally carried others are sold off to raise money and still more are purchased for someone else(a straw purchase banned in this state)I would believe the smaller amount of them are stolen and used in later crimes. john1576: 'The Police do not carry arms normally'. Are you really living in England? Every police force here has an armed police unit on duty during the day and night, not just 'on call'. Even here in a Town like York. I was commenting on on this to a guy the other day. We were both talking about seeing a Police raid on a slum section of Town were the police looked more like Nazi S.S. troops with machine guns and German style helmets etc, than British Bobbies. And where you say; 'crime happens', try being so offhanded to women who have been subjected to long and humiliating rapes. franklin1950: he american 2nd ammendment was added in lafge part so that the american people could [ i neccessary ] overthrugh a corrupt tyranical government . the government in its wisdom pasedd laws requiring all guns to be ' registered " . giving the government the information to locate them and their owners . a corrupt and tyranical government might well missuse this information . the unregistered gun is probably the wizer choice for those in in need of overthroughing any government . candyrivers: Thing is John you actually do have the look of a paedophile about you. If guns were available to the british public with your idiotic spewings you never know if you would be the next target. What was it the other week, Islam is the answer, then you play the atheist, One one post your level of homophobia was shocking, I seem to remember you saying something like you cant go in public toilets without being propositioned. I find that very difficult to believe. atilawolf: Candy candy candy ,Your emotional knee jerk reaction is not so surprising.That response is heard from uninformed folks on this side of the Ocean as well.You want to talk rape , that happens here as well the majority without a firearm or even a weapon at all just brute force and threats.Yes most if not all of the police I have spoken with do carry a concealed side arm off duty.If you have any questions I will be glad to answer them. franklin1950: it seems that in almost all gun related gun crimes more than a few existing gun laws have been violated and the existing laws would cover the offences but there is always the whinny call for more restrictive laws that only negatively effect legal gun owners instead of the criminal use of illegal guns. there are statistics that show the number of times citisens have used a gun to protect life and property. seldom do these events make the news as they do not enhance the progressive agenda.  LiptonCambell: I agree that you should be required to prove you can properly handle a gun- but then again, we do the same for cars. But a ban of guns is outrageous. john1576: Candydriver. Withdraw the comment about paedophile. I will take Legal action against you and Wire if that comment is here any longer. john1576: Gary. Am just following the procedure. In the past I have worked with a number of blokes who were joked about being 'Paedophiles'. It always puzzled me why they never took action against the people making the suggestions. It turned out they 'were' paedophiles. One guy ended up doing 9 years in prison. LiptonCambell: Haha that seems like an idle threat john....I mean, first off, this website makes it clear in your terms and agreements upon joining that they hold no responsiblity over other users content. Secondly, I have a hard time believing, if it did get to a court, that any judge would waste their time with such a comment as "you look like a pedophile". 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