10 commandments (Page 2)

LiptonCambell: Okay, lets look at it this way;

50 people work together- they tend to a crop, and they make enough food for 50 people to live off it until the next crop is harvested.

2,500 people come in and eat all the food in a day.

Again, is this justice?

LiptonCambell: If you have no property, then anyone can take what you make, and you cannot stop them because it is not your property.

You say there is no theft. There is. You would create a world where people steal back and forth until the object they steal isn't worth anything any longer. Then they would steal from someone else.

Sevon: it is a self balancing equation, ultimately then you would now have 2,550 people now facing hunger and motivated to either continue reaping what they did not sow as nomads - OR - planting a larger crop together.. either way justice is achieved in the balance of the long term.... fear of the short term effect of this type of law is based in nothing substantial in the view of long term human society evolution...

Sevon: you cannot "steal" what is already yours... and there is no desire to "take" and hoard when nothing is witheld...

LiptonCambell: Lol it doesn't sound like justice for the 50 people who spent a 1/2 a year planning for the next year.

Comrade_: idk..maybe the 2550 ppl will sit to see who will do the work first. They may all end up bluffing to death, as neither will want to be the first to make the effort since the others can just come and eat it.
ends in a stalemate..

LiptonCambell: Whatever dude- you're talking nonsense. If your "commandments" were followed, billions would starve, and billions more would be murdered.

Sevon: and the very few remaining would be a fullfillment of scriptures.... think about it

assalty: I think water is more important than food cause food grows up beggining with water,so we should complain about water missing not food,food is everywhere.

Comrade_: *sigh*

LiptonCambell: Lol again, in a world without property, food would quickly disappear.

Lets make this simple- in a world without property, people who work will not ever have fruits of their labour- and the people who do not work will always have the fruits of other peoples work.

So why would anyone work, if working only makes you a victim?

assalty: gOD NEEDED WATER NOT FOOD

Comrade_: maybe you can survive on water alone? but if the process of "take-take-take" continues over generations do you not see the break down?
the command would only work if there was another command to work with it.
example: be hard-working
that way though there'll be "take-take-take" there'll be that loop to "produce-produce-produce*

Sevon: working alredy makes you a victim, you are anothers slave... without property there is no business, everyone is automatically employed in basic survival... theres no such thing as shiftless criminals... our sick society creates that type of character

assalty: WHAT WAS THE IDEEA?U START TO WALK ANOTHER PATH!IT WAS MAINING CONCERN ABOUT ...ABOUT 10 COMMANDMENTS ,10 RULES OF LOVE AND U,GUYS, START WITH RULES OF SOCIALISM WHERE THERES NO BASIC LIFE BUT ONLY ARTIFICIALISM...AND I DONT WANTA NYMORE POLIESTER AND PALSTICS AND CARS...JUST I NEEDED IT THAT WATER ONCE,SO U UNDERSTAND WHATA BEGGAR I AM.

LiptonCambell: Lol but at least if you work you BENEFIT from your work. You're suggesting you shouldn't benefit from your own work- and if thats the case, then no one will work.

Sevon: water is free, go catch a raindrop

Sevon: everyone benifits from everything, you are looking through the filter of fear and selfishness, have an imagination of the positive possibilities...

Comrade_: I would like to own a unicorn

assalty: HAVE NOTHING IN THE END,IT'S NOTHINGNESS,NOT EVEN WATER...IN THIS MOMENT I STILL HAVE TO WALK TO TAKE MY WATER...WHERE ON EARTH IS MY SERVANT?

LiptonCambell: Why would anyone work if working ensures you won't survive? I can't get past that point, and you condemning humanity isn't an answer

assalty: :drama queen...lets see if it works!

LiptonCambell: By all means- all I'm suggesting is Sevon either be successful or destroy himself in his own void- don't risk social experiments at the cost of other peoples lives. He should only risk his own.

assalty: I could have a Lipton ,please?hahahihihehehuh!hm!

Sevon: all of recorded history is a social experiment at the cost of life...