Boycotting Worldcup? Come talk with me. WHlSKY: I'm airing what's on my mind to find an alternative point because within me I'm in agreement and I don't like when I'm in agreement with myself haa There is a strange way humans operate (to me). There is this routine type of rythmatic way of carrying out / making decisions but when it's dissected there's no logical link to solving the issue or any impact on the issue. Example, and this is the one that had me thinking on this matter, is a headlines I saw on DW.com, it said "Argentina: More interested in Messi than human rights". It talks about bars in Germany not showing the WC games due to the human rights issue in Qatar, and then some fella in Argentina who is upset on some FIFA stickers (lil reaching for DW news). I'm missing something here? I do think Qatar can be criticised and the WC can be used as a place to bring awareness etc (as it has been done in the past), but I'm missing how logically there will be any impact by Argentinians or anyone viewing the games or boycotting the games. It is such a low hanging fruit to blast Argentina on too. If everyone decides to not view the games, how will that logically lead to a change in Qatar human rights issues? How will that affect the government into making changes in any form? Especially knowing that Germany (I don't recall bars closing for it) , UK, US, and many other countries have taken millions & billions of dollars from Qatar in exchange for weaponry. To me this is directly linked to supporting a rulership. Giving that human-rights-abusing leadership weaponry and that power directly links to their ability and strength to cut down anyone who disagrees with them. But this is not looked at, what's looked at is some fella in Argentina going on stupidly on FIFA stickers and perhaps a feeling of doing something by not viewing any WC games as an individual. But doing what in the end? That's what I don't know. It appears routine to boycott and condemn those who may not join in that method, but not boycott things that are directly related to the issue. Madness. Anyway, give me some sensible opposition to my thoughts here. (Edited by WHlSKY) WHlSKY: In what FIFA? ha FIFA as an organisation always has corruption. But I'm thinking about the calls to boycott Qatar's World Cup. There has been some concerns too on the extent some go with it also bordering and 'passing the border' on prejudice due to it being a "muslim country" with some media outlets going overboard. I think the Worldcup can be used as a platform to raise the topic on human rights issues as it Qatar has made adjustments in the past to improve. However, there is a stretch in boycotting and I'm not seeing a correlation on how that will help anything especially when these countries as Germany and company are the ones making weaponry deals with Qatar. Now to turn around and call for boycotts over a Worldcup. Weird and ingenuine, no? (Edited by WHlSKY) WHlSKY:
With football, that is easier said than done. Football runs deep. Other sports are surface level, but football has history, cultural identity and passion wrapped up with it. It has often times been used as an outlet for political/social protest (sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing). WHlSKY: It's not reserved for Argentina alone but many many other countries too. I don't know how to explain it but the game seems inseparable from the history and cultural structure and politics tend to intermingle with history & culture. Football to most countries is like what guns are to the US haa, strangely mingles with politics and culture. However, maybe not as strongly now as in the past. FIFA tends to try to impose things to separate the game from what they see as politics. There are restrictions on these things being shown on a player's undergarment or clothing etc. (Edited by WHlSKY)  LoisS: You cant "do sports" and keep politics out of it. Just doesnt work like that and this is the shame of it. The giant midget: Interesting. Any sporting event can be used as a platform to raise anything.but mostly human rights. Look at China,with the worst human rights violations,it has been granted several major sporting events,nobody says boo because they feed the world with cheap goods and services. Look at Saudi Arabia another human rights violator,but every political figure most visit the kingdom and kiss the Kings ass. Look at the Vatican another violator but everyone wants to kiss the president hand. It's all about money The giant midget: Colour, sexual orientation,etc can be used as a playing card within the world stage events,why not use those cards when millions and more millions folks are watching,stupid not too. What's really upsetting to me is with FIFA itself. The organization is so strict with rules and regulations with its teams ,their players and occasionally with the fans ,God forbid anyone let go a fart ,Fifa is ready to fine you. FIFA did everything possible to accommodate Qatar to host the games,1 that comes to mind was the timing of the year,NOVEMBER??? Put the 15 top Fifa executives on a air mattress to travel back to Europe and let destiny take is course WHlSKY: It's more convenient for everyone to have the game in November though, as the weather will be better in Qatar at that time. Not sure that's to help Qatar out since they won the bid years ago in advanced before the set days. FIFA is indeed a mess for an organisation and corrupt as it comes.They have failed the sport and deviated from what they were meant to do and now become a money grabbing cesspool. Shame they have this monopoly hold on the sport. I wish so much that an alternative organisation present itself to invest more on the grassroot teams and countries. Really invest the money. Sucks big time. The giant midget: The hot weather didn't change in Qatar for centuries Why not hold WC in Antarctica in July ?? As FIFA been corrupt rotten,Qatar bribery machine alongside it's Arab neighbors pledged secretly millions to be the winner,things can be rigged,so I heard.. Anyway the whole purpose of hosting the games was to showcase to the world that a Muslim nation is tolerant and embraces those disgusting alcoholic beer gussling Infidels. There's always a agenda behind everything WHlSKY: I don't think so. That area is known for extremely hot summers, this is a cooler time. I doubled checked and July is the hottest month for them. Having footballers and tourist in that weather wouldn't do anyone any good. I know that there are a lot of 'rumours' and some media outlets want to add even more pressure because it is a muslim nation. But look at carefully. 1) FIFA is very open for bribes, yes, countries tend to do what they can to be chosen. Even the US added their pressure for bids. 2) As seen in the games, Qatar has lost their games, and anyone who watches the games will see any hint of 'match fixing', so far no one presented evidence of it. We even have VR to not rely solely on referees so if any weird play it'll be picked up easily. 3) Qatar has not tolerated alcohol in the stadium but they continue with their usual rules as alcohol isn't even illegal there, it's doing it in public and being drunk publicly etc. I think that there is a lot of things Qatar can be criticised about, but also there needs to be a sensible balance in it. They don't need to win the World Cup, hosting the Worldcup is what helps a country as it brings more tourist and gives a world a show of said country etc. That's why all these countries press so much to host the World Cup and Olympic games. It'll do more good for Qatar and the Gulf to be shown to the world and for them also to get to interact with the world as it'll help that country make adjustments. The giant midget: Its the political figures , social elites and the influential bar flies that want to host these events at the cost of hardworking taxpayers. 1976 Montreal Olympics ,Canadian taxpayers only in 2006 finished paying the last 1.6 billion dollars remain bill to host the event. What a waste. | Off Topic Chat Room Similar Conversations |
