Sweden (Page 4) I K R: Trump said "if you look what happened last night in Sweden" NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED IN SWEDEN THE NIGHT HE IS REFERRING TO Wrong, there were fires and rioting....by muslim immigrants... as usual....N.If you had bothered to look this up before you start asserting yourself with the CAPS LOCK.... you would see that the only misleading thing about Trumps statement is that "last night" was not a one off incident....or unusual.....This is a normal occurance ....its how the Swedes have been repaid for allowing Islamic trash into their land. Ikea is a furniture store, as we all know.....Ikea meatballs??? It is also famous for the double murder of two Swedes by Islamic vermin. After being refused asylum they decided the best way to stay free loading in Sweden would be to get arrested and sent to jail.....So they butchered a mother and son in Ikea. I K R: N Geoff I agree immigrants are fine, and beneficial, Its unfair to band them all together. I work with many immigrants from all over n they do not want more muslim imigration. Because many come from countries suffering from the poison of islam. Of course not all muslims are trash, like not all germans who voted for Hitler were Nazis....But its like anything in life you must weigh up the pros and cons.....and unfortunately for the nice muslims the cons outweigh the pros......They should be made to leave islam in the desert or stay there with it. N for anyone who thinks i just dont understand islam....I understand it more than i ever wanted to....i live with muslims and islam here in the "house of war" .....Thats what they call any country they live which is not governed by islam.  AlienFlyer: the "riots" that happened in Stockholm happened on Monday. Three days after the Friday in question. The question is whether a terrorist attack happened on the friday before trump gave his little speech.. what he said in the speech is "we look at what happened last night in sweden" on a Saturday rally.. what he was referring to was a segment on Foxnews about the rise in crime in Sweden that aired on Friday. But he speaks like a third grader and doesn't clarify his thoughts very well and it leaves the entire world to wonder what the fuck he is talking about. And now that we know what he was talking about it makes it even more dumb because apparently he's expecting everyone to watch foxnews on a friday night. In this news segment, they are trying to link the rise in crime to an increase of refugees. Even though Sweden doesn't differentiate whether crimes are committed by immigrants or refugees or citizens so there is no way to really statistically support the claim and even though the rise in crime is not abnormal or considered a large scale increase. The riots which appears to be more like one night of violent protest seems like the typical college weekend or a world series win. And it didn't happen until three days after Trump gave his speech. If you want to talk about the ease of cultural assimilation, that would be a great conversation to have. Its something that doesn't seem to be a huge problem for america traditionally but now all of a sudden it is. (Edited by AlienFlyer) Brock Hudson: I am just going to leave these here... https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.1qwhbh6ys https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-trump-regime-was-manufactured-by-a-war-inside-the-deep-state-f9e757071c70 I K R: "we look at what happened last night in sweden".....does that sentence contain the word "terrorism"?....No So, you are accusing Trump of making false assumptions about what happened in Sweden. When in fact you are the one wrongly assuming he meant a terrorist attack. N you do that deliberately " they are trying to link the rise in crime to an increase of refugees" No they are trying to hide the facts by introducing laws forbidding the cultural background to be reported. " there is no way to really statistically support the claim and even though the rise in crime is not abnormal or considered a large scale increase." Yes you can support the claim its very easy.... allow me to demonstrate..... Here is a list of some of the men convicted of violence and sex crimes against children in the uk during 2010..... Mohammed Zackriya 21, Mohammed Taj 37, Mohammed Shabir, 36,. Shafaq Hussain, 21: Azeem Shah, 23, Tabassum Shah, 24, Asad Yousaf Hassan, 28, Mohammed Basharat, 28: Mohammed Atif, 29, Ian Hindle, 32, Andrew Wells, 49, Aftab Khan, 31, Mohammed Moosa, 24, Mohammed Anwar Safi, 31, Ahmed Noorzai, 29, Mohammed Khan, 26, Najibullah Safi, 32, Razwan Razaq, 30, Umar Razaq, 24, Zafran Ramzan, 21, Mohsin Khan, 21, Adil Hussain, 20, Mohammed Ditta, 39, Mirza Baig, 35, Shofiqul Islam, 21 Two of those men were not Muslim, if you can't correctly guess which two....im afraid you must be brain dead. I K R: Since muslims began arriving in Sweden 40 years ago violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%. Sweden is now number two on the list of rape countries, surpassed only by Lesotho in Southern Africa.....connect the dots AlienFlyer: No the statement doesn't contain the word terrorism. It also doesn't contain the words foxnews or news segment. Or anything about any TV show that he was supposedly referring to. As I already stated in a previous comment he didn't specify at all what he was talking about and it leaves room for interpretation. I'm not sure what exactly the rest of your comment means. The UK is not Sweden. So I don't see how any arrests in UK suggest that Sweden keeps statistics on this stuff when their officials have specifically said they do not. It's like you're either not understanding my comments or you're misinterpreting on purpose. And when looking at these names, you can guess which ones come from an ethnic back ground but that doesn't mean they are actually Muslims or if they are refugees no more than you can tell if "Ian Hindle,32" is atheist or Christian. AlienFlyer: I'd rather have direct cause and effect and something that correlates. Connecting the dots is just playing leap frog from one claim to the next. AlienFlyer: Preliminary figures for the number of crimes reported in Sweden during 2016 have been released, with reported instances of fraud and crimes against the individual up, and drugs crimes and theft down. That's according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå, whose preliminary figures suggest that the overall number of crimes reported in Sweden during the last year was around 1.5 million, only a marginal (6,470) increase compared to 2015. When broken down to specific categories, reported crimes against an individual increased by seven percent, rising to 275,000. But a criminology expert has warned The Local that reaching conclusions by analyzing figures for reported crimes is a tricky business. “Reported crimes are a lousy measure of the development of crimes. The number of crimes reported tends to be dependent on the discussion going on in the country,” University of Stockholm criminology professor Jerzy Sarnecki said. “What criminologists do is to look at the 10-year, 20-year development. Then we can see the trends. Year to year, it's impossible to judge why changes occur,” he added. An example of a figure from Brå's statistics which paints one picture in isolation but a different one with further context is that the number of rapes reported in Sweden increased by 13 percent in 2016 to 6,560. But when that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen. In other words, the number of reported rapes in Sweden dipped in 2015 (down by 12 percent to 5,920) then in 2016 it returned to around the same level as 2014. Seen over a ten-year period, the number of reported rapes has gone up from 4,208 in 2006, partly because of legislative changes in the previous year and in 2013 broadening the definition, according to Brå. According to Brå's figures, 10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 – a striking increase of 20 percent on 2015 (when 8,840 were reported). But once again, 2015 was a year when reported sexual molestation had dropped significantly – it was down by eight percent that year compared to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported. http://www.thelocal.se/20170112/swedens-2016-crime-stats-analyzed I K R: n dave i started reading those two articles, "Trump’s younger supporters know he’s an incompetent joke; in fact, that’s why they support him." hmmm dunno sounds like some guy named Dale Beran claiming he can read minds?...Or someone who shares your opinion of Trump? Lol i had to laugh at the second one: "A special report published by INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a crowdfunded investigative journalism project for people and planet. Support us to keep digging where others fear to tread."  ....Then he goes on to explain how Trump is actually a criminal mastermind with a plan so evil and cunning no one can see what he's up to !!! :Toots just doesnt know what to think  I K R: Alien flyer ...there's not much difference in crime rates between 2014 -2016..... So? Sweden already had a massive Muslim population then......What does that prove? Its been an ongoing problem for years.....You clearly want to deny there's a problem, regardless of the truth....stats are a weak argument in this case since 2nd generation muslims would be recorded as Swedish N actually yes you can identify muslims by their names......Muslim converts adopt islamic names not arab names....certainly once they get to the stage of committing rape jihad they'll have an islamic name... RECENT muslim riots in France...I.cant say exactly when it was becasue they are always rioting....  calybonos: I'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is, but it's a fair guess that it's not a paid advertisement by the Swedish Tourist Association. calybonos: Svedee-a is a guod plece-a tu gu is lung is yuou dun't meend getting reped herder by zee-a texi drifers thuon zee-a hutel beell Bork, bork, bork!  Nicotina: Do people fail to understand that they are being manipulated to hate specific groups in order to create an "us" vs "them" mentality so that the most wealthy people on earth can attain greater wealth? | Off Topic Chat Room Similar Conversations |
