Refugees in Canada

windy15
windy15: On the news today...26,000 refugees are in Canada at the moment. Now big news story...they can't get jobs. Uh neither can we. What did the government think would happen? 26,000 just slide into employment? Regardless of what others think Canada's employment outlook is bleak.
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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: Just wait for the next 350 thousand coming into Canada by end of 2016 that's the projected number announced by the Justin Trudeau government last Wednesday
Never mind about the jobs for these refugees my question is where they going to live , and who's going to pay for it
The queer our prime minister Justin Trudeau in past 4 months has placed Canada in a deficit of 30 billion dollars,our debt will be in just under 600 billion dollars by time of next election to replace him and his liberal government

Oh forgot to mention that Justin is to be Canada's prime minister for next 12 years according to the fanfare of women and new emigrated refugees to vote for him and his government

God save us from his extortion of taxes and his wife singing
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Mrs Gennie
Mrs Gennie: 12 families moved in to my (luxury) apt. rent free and receiving $4000.00 a month.........some getting 3 bedroom apts (2600 or more a month).......i'm already paying ...... 2 such families moved in all this crap cluttering the elevator hallways n walkways.....my brother who is nervous and has mild alzheimers big joy is walking our dog......they confused him and frightened him yelling at him because of the dog (she weighs 4lbs!), He tripped or fainted and falling into the marble walls and splitting his head open and he also dropped our dog who broke 2 teeth.......i am so fed up with being the minority in my own country

sorry but i am not prejudice, i'm just fed up
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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: Wait on the next proposal from our PM and his political correct and extremely generous Canadian government toward so called new recently with full credentials Canadian citizens that in order to accommodate and embrace these people into our heart warmth country we will be asked to move from our homes so the foreign guests can move in
Yes that announcement coming around October 2016
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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: Today is Easter Sunday and the campaign to help foreign newcomers just begun
Our PM in a speech addressing the Canadian public just outright asked for """ a helping hand from all Canadians """
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Not to suggest they are all, but a fair number of these refugees are skilled labourers, right? Doctors and plumbers and managers and such.....they obviously would have difficult getting their credentials accepted, but this isn't your standard 'flee from starvation' kinda refugees....these people left jobs behind, and thus, are more capable of becoming productive members of society(christ i hope some are doctors....we need them in Ontario)
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LiptonCambell
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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: @ Cambell
Your too funny
Skilled labourers,Right???
Skilled labour is expensive,cheap labour isn't skilled in my industry
A general unionized labor is in a range of 30 bucks an hour,
He / She will travel about 3 hours daily to work and back to his / her home which there is no compensation for that time of commute
Spend money on fuel and vehicle maintenance plus insurance.
Labor is espoused to weather elements the cold, heat ,sun and rain for 44 hours weekly of pay
Why should a refugee wake up at 5 am to face the harsh elements and reality of hard working conditions if he / she make same money and wake up at their leisure and relax because lodging and all other living expenses are payed for.

Where do I,as a over TAXED working stiff past 34 years sign up for such benefits and priceless lifestyle
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Come on 'Cap, you know they needed some support. It's not like they sold their home and carried that cash with them when they crossed the Mediterranean....they're broke, but that doesn't mean they are incapiable of working....

These people need a home. Its unethical to ignore their plight and let their dead wash up on shores or end up in ISIS propaganda videos, beheaded....and if they're going to be here, then they're going to need a hand getting on their feet. Otherwise, we'd have 10,000 homeless syrian refugees lining our streets. We need to get them back on their feet and back to work. It's a small investment.

If you think they got it so good, though, then by all means- move back to their home. experience what they experienced. Something tells me employers are desperate for employees there, and the housing market is prob pretty sweet with all those abandoned houses........snatch up a bunch of homes and get some tenets....
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: I mean, jesus man....they watched their families get executed, had to abandon their homes and property, had their culture and way of life destroyed by terrorists, had to make a deadly journey where 1 in 10 die crossing one sea alone, have spent years in refugee camps, struggling to get enough food to survive....

And you're jealous??! Seriously?
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Gunna bitch that people in wheelchairs get sit all day too?
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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: I am not against Canada taking in refugees regardless if they're from Syria,Zimbabwe,Serbia,Angola, Peru, Mongolia or from a God or Prophets asshole
Mr.Cambell Canada has a HOMELESS problem within OUR country
Canada has a SHORTAGE of affordable HOUSING for OUR UNDERPRIVILEGED Canadian born citizens
Canada has a HUGE problem with our YOUTH not able to find EMPLOYMENT
Canada has all these issues mentioned above and our fearless leaders can't nor are willing to fix them past 30 years
If we as a nation can't solve our own internal problems how are we suppose to help these newcomers if we can't take care of our own???
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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: I mean,Jesus man Mr Cambell please have a heart here buddy, if you have a job please sir quit and ask your employer they must hire a refugee,because he / she needs your job
Mr Cambell if you have a roof over your head please sir be a good human and move out so a refugee can be housed and you go live under a bridge
Tell your children (if you have any )that they can't have a job because jobs must be given to refugees
And Mr.Cambell please I beg you t call every politician in the land to increase your income taxes ( if you have a job ) from 39% to let's say a slight modest 50% so you can pay for all these programs and assistance to the newcomers
So much of political correctness but not enough common sense

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Zanjan
Zanjan: "Where do I,as a over TAXED working stiff past 34 years sign up for such benefits and priceless lifestyle "

You apply at your local Welfare office, get bus tickets, and eat Kraft dinner a lot.

The refugees are getting the exact same amount as welfare recipients; and, like them, the assistance is temporary. Refugees under age 65 have to find employment within a year or their money is cut off.

So what if there are Canadians who can't find work? Maybe they should work harder at their jobs, change occupations, or take a job with lower pay. Employment is competitive because nobody like lazy blobs who take a sick day off every month, and put no quality into their work. I know at least 5 people who were fired for stealing - none were refugees.

Refugees have many things to do the first year - take ESL classes and learn the legal ropes of life in Canada. Some will be working at their education upgrade, which is what all foreign professionals require. They're not alone - government offices are helping them adjust and like Canada Unemployment offices, they'll help them find jobs.

Many of the refugees are sponsored. We have one in town; the local church has raised funds, which has paid for their first couple months apartment rent, furniture and basic things. These people came here with only a couple suitcases of clothes - you try to put down roots in another country with just that!

Fortunately, our little family speaks understandable English so the husband found a job in town the first week they were here. He's a barber - our town needed a good one and he is.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: The news last week reported about a priest, who'd raised a few million dollors to help support the refugees. He's in jail now - he gambled it all away. Now he doesn't have a job..boo hoo.
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tinystar604
tinystar604: There is a drastic shortage of workers that will be coming up as the aging population is very high in vancouver. I wouldn't be suprised if this is happening indirectly also because of that shortage. The reason prices for housing is so unaffordable is because of expo 89. The large influx of chinese buying homes and offering more than the asking price shot them up. The average home is 65% inflated.Now how long it will take to fix it, probably most likely never. Better have a good income or struggle for life. Rely on welfare, etc. These refugees will obviously have to face the same as any immigrant coming here on work visas, etc. Lets hope things don't get too ugly in Vancouver...if it I have a plan b! - my 2 cents.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: >>>Canada has all these issues mentioned above and our fearless leaders can't nor are willing to fix them past 30 years

There IS NO SOLUTION to homelessness, or "high" unemployment, or affordable housing. You might as well have said we can't help holocaust victims until we've cured cancer, made all Canadians immortal, and have several settlements on mars

If you got the solution to the problems o high unemployment, expensive real estate, and homelessness, be my guest- but as far as I'm concerned, these are problems that always existed, and will always exist. EVERY COUNTRY in the world has a group of people who don't have homes, who can't afford a house, who can't get a job because they're young and inexperienced- by the logic of "we can't bring holocaust victims to our country because our country isn't perfect yet", then, logically, you're suggesting these people should stay there and die, because NO COUNTRY has solved these problems.

I'm getting sick and tired of this disgusting racism being posted all over the internet, pretending to be compassionate, when the real intent is to keep the brown people in their countries, to suffer and die.

Not to mention suggesting the government hasn't done ANYTHING to solve those three problems is immensely ignorant. It has. There are numerous programs in existence, and numerous more programs being discussed or implemented in an effort to alleviate the pressures these problems present. But they won't solve it- there is no "cure" to homelessness, because homelessness isn't something that can just go away. The complexity to solve it will take decades, maybe centuries, as we fiddle with laws, eliminate racism and stereotypes, help people get help and end the shame society projects to people who need help.

>>>I mean,Jesus man Mr Cambell please have a heart here buddy, if you have a job please sir quit and ask your employer they must hire a refugee,because he / she needs your job

I don't have to. We had a job fair 3 days ago, general labor position for 14$ an hour. my employer is actively looking for people to employ.

>>>Mr Cambell if you have a roof over your head please sir be a good human and move out so a refugee can be housed and you go live under a bridge

The fuck are you talking about? I can go on kijiji right now and find a dozen rentals in my small town alone- hell, down the street they're selling brand new townhouses for 100 bucks more a month than i'm paying to rent- and they're to own.

The idea that we don't got enough jobs, or housing, is a lie fabricated by the small minded and racists, to keep foreigners out. If we need more houses, guess what? more houses will be built. As mentioned earlier, the government is spearheading numerous initiatives to introduce quality, affordable, low income homes into our communities- and more people means more jobs. People need to build more houses? Theres more jobs in housing construction. Too many people show up to the local tim hortons? They'll build a new one and gladly take your money. Banks too crowded? more will open up to take your business.

The economy can handle this, and moreover, it'll improve our economy.

>>>Tell your children (if you have any )that they can't have a job because jobs must be given to refugees

You realize how horrible these objections of yours are, right?

That people should be beheaded by religious extremists and terrorists......because we need to keep people employed.

Thats the level you value ---Human LIFE---

>>>from 39% to let's say a slight modest 50% so you can pay for all these programs and assistance to the newcomers

We don't have to- the increased population will pay for itself. These are TAX PAYERS coming into the country!!

>>>So much of political correctness but not enough common sense

Doesn't seem like you have any sense. You'd rather see millions of people be executed, than have more homes be built. It's insane.

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Zanjan
Zanjan: Yeah, it doesn't make sense to send the refugees to Vancouver, the most expensive place to live in the country. However, our country is run by corporations; since they put them up in motels, local business is happy. Undoubtedly, new Syrian restaurants and markets will open.

Consider how very law-abiding refugees are - after all that, they don't want to be deported. If only we could do the same with regular people. Our prisons are full.

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Captain Canada
Captain Canada: Miss Zanjan you're right that these refugees receive the same as welfare recipients and only temporary
What happens when they can't find work and temporary assistance expires???
What is the government going to do??!
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Apparently, the government will get them jobs, once they're able to negotiate English well enough.

Our first refugee family has been here about a month; they speak enough English to get through the basics so, they've already begun upgrading their professional credentials to Canadian standards. The husband should have his Canadian license within 2 months.... he's got a job waiting for him, based on his current skills. They're taking advanced ESL classes too. Busy people, so many new documents to obtain, including studying for citizenship, health care and drivers licenses.

Second family is coming in the next month. The parents are professionals too and will go through the same procedures. The local church supplies free babysitters while they work, and transportation to the city for shopping trips. Enough funds have been raised to tide the two families over for two years - that's about 60 K per family.

When the Church put in their application for sponsorship, the only requirement was that the family be Christian. The church is very connected and committed to finding them jobs in their fields; we know what this town needs for trades people and other professionals so I think that was how the families were delegated to us.

We've heard reports that other Syrian refugees didn't fare as well. Many who had their own relatives sponsor them have been users, working them to death and taking all their funds. That's in the city, of course - city people are harsh. So, it's not a bowl of cherries for all of them.
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briansmythe
briansmythe: Gee that's funny Zanjan a Christian family, I wonder why that is, lol
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Let other religious communities support their own kind - Lord knows, there's a religion for every man out there. As for the atheists, they can suck it up - they always wanted to be alone.

Ours is just a small town in the Bible Belt of the province; what would you expect? Everyone here is pitching in, no questions asked - "service" doesn't have an identity. The refugees came from a UN refugee camp, while the agency processing the paperwork and dispatching the refugees for all Christian denominations is Mennonite.
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briansmythe
briansmythe: No was just saying were only taking Christians too sounds fair enough to me
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Well, there's one Jew, 2 Hindu, and 3 Muslims in our town - hardly enough to sponsor 2 families for a couple years.

God expects much from those who have much.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Ugh Zanjan, i agreed with your paragraph you posted earlier....then you had to toss in that "I only want to save the lives of people who agree with my beliefs" part and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth....

Like, I do think that you're doing a good thing about helping these people....I aint sponsoring anyone, so i can hardly talk....and to some degree i understand....you don't want to invite and support someone who hold dramatically different beliefs, and doesn't integrate as well....

then you say things like "Let other religious communities support their own kind"....their own kind? You ARE their own kind- human beings. To say you're only willing to help people to escape from ethnic cleansing if they accept your religious beliefs....that's some cold shit right there....Why make the distinction at all?And why are you keeping a score card on the religions people hold in your city?

If you were donating food to the starving in Africa, would you click a box that said "Only Christians can eat my food"? This is a humanitarian aid, not a partisan issue or a means to boost your local religion scorecard...."ha, we just got 7 more Christians- take that Hindu's!"

Like i said....great work on helping those in need....i just wish you were more open to helping people indiscriminately....it seems you are only helping these people to try and get something out of the deal, which undermines the whole Altruistic angle of what you're doing...
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Zanjan
Zanjan: ""I only want to save the lives of people who agree with my beliefs""

Nope, that wasn't it. We're not stupid and nobody saves other people's lives except God. We can only offer a way for them to save their own. Christians are already saved anyway, doncha know?

Here's how it works - if you're drowning while I'm standing near you, I'll toss you a rope and haul you in to solid ground - the rest is up to you. I go home and we'll not see each other again - no strings attached. However, if you're asking permission to be a blood-sucking parasite in my life, forgeddaboutit!

I'd take a bullet for my brother - you'd need to demonstrate to me you are one.

"their own kind? You ARE their own kind- human beings."

The human is a species - individuals amongst them are of different kinds.

All people working in the Cause of God are my brothers/sisters so, I make no distinction between them. It just happens that the Christian community in my area has the ONLY financial pot and the largest pool of human resources. I'm the only Baha'i in the area so that wasn't my call - what I contribute in terms of support is barely a speck. Any load is lighter when shared and joy belongs to all when one in danger arrives to safe ground.


As for donating food - everyone in Canada,, through the public purse, provides for refugees all over the world - where do you think they get it from, Trump's wallet?
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