I Wonder If Other Men In Wireclub Have Had Encounters Like This:

StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

I was talking to my friend Karma about this, and she wondered if other guys in Wireclub experience something that I do. I wasn't sure. So I thought I'd ask.

I get inquiries from women. All the time. Seriously, like half a dozen times a day the little blue Instant Message doohickey down at the bottom of my page will light up, and it's always the same thing.

If I answer, the "conversation” always progresses the same way. It's almost like there's a script. It's always begins with:

hi

how are you?

Now, those two questions constitute what is probably the most common beginning of a first conversation. But then the questions always seem to be worded slightly different, but always making the same handful of inquiries. They want to know
~ your name
~ your age
~ where are you from
~ what do you do
~ are you single
~ do you have children
~ what do you want from Wireclub

Again, these are common questions. But in these encounters, it doesn't feel conversational. It feels scripted. And the script always seems the same. It’s feels like someone is working off of a checklist. It’s interesting because the various encounters are so similar that they almost seem to be coming from the same person. But I’ve received so many that if it was the same person, they’d know that they get nowhere with me, and would no longer bother with me. But they’re so similar in so many ways that I wonder if they’re coordinated.

The profile is always pretty much always the same. It has only one single picture of a girl. Sometimes stunning. Sometimes very sexy. Sometimes less provocative. But it’s ALWAYS the picture of an attractive woman.

The age varies, but still not all that much. It's nearly always between 26 and 36, with most right around 30. Fairly often, the picture is of a girl OBVIOUSLY younger than the given age. The pictures are always good shots, posed, better looking than the typical kind of casual “slice of life” picture that many of us use, but they’re not photos of models, or anything like that.

And they always tell me that they are looking for someone to “love,” to “spend their life with.”

One thing is ALWAYS quite clear:

This person's primary language is NOT English. If you use common English language colloquial expressions that don't make literal sense, the person obviously doesn't understand. Saying something like "What's on your mind?" or "I was checking the fridge to whip up a snack," they obviously go blank. And any sort of fancy vocabulary usage isn’t understood. And manner of their English, the tone of it, is very similar from encounter to encounter.

Without variation, if allowed to play out for any length of time, the conversation is ALWAYS steered to a request for my email/messenger ID, and with only a very few exceptions, they always ask if I have “Yahoo,” not “Hotmail,” or some other service.

I'm pretty sure what it all means. I'm quite sure that it's a fishing expedition, looking for lonely guys that can be probed for some possible means of monetary exploitation in due time. But the “searching for a soulmate” thing also suggests that it might be women searching for a crack in the immigration door. I’ve actually asked them if they’d be willing to tell me what they’re up to, but to no avail, of course.

I’ve been tempted to allow these things to cross over from Wireclub into email/messenger just to let it play out to see just what they’re up to, but I confess that I’m concerned that it could also be some sort of hacker’s ploy to, in some way, gain access to my computer. It also crosses my mind that the request to bypass Wireclub might be so that some sort of offers of a pornographic nature might be made without the sort of interference that might occur within Wireclub.

Hahaha! As I type this in a Word document sitting side by side on my monitor next to my Wireclub window, one of these has come in. Let’s play this one, and see what we get:

marry_harry: hi
SITS: Hello
marry_harry: am marry ny name and you
SITS: I’m Bob
[Note to readers: My name is not Bob.]
marry_harry: nice name
SITS: Thanks, marry
marry_harry: you are from where bob?
SITS: I’m from California
marry_harry: what did you do for a leaving
SITS: I’m a Euphemistic Interpretation Specialist
marry_harry: good nice work
SITS: Yes, it pays well
marry_harry: thats good
marry_harry: self emply or working with company
SITS: I’m self employed
marry_harry: trhats good
marry_harry: are you on facebook
SITS: No, I’m not on facebook
marry_harry: you gat ermail
marry_harry: email
marry_harry: marry.harry88@yahoo.com
marry_harry: add me o that
SITS: Okay, I will
marry_harry: ok
marry_harry: add me now
SITS: I will when I get off of Wireclub
marry_harry: ok
marry_harry: are you married
SITS: No, I’m single
marry_harry: am also single
marry_harry: am looking for a serious man and someone that is caring annd loving hearth
SITS: That sounds nice
marry_harry: and what about you
SITS: I don’t know
marry_harry: ok
marry_harry: if you want to talk more to me add me know
SITS: Can’t we talk here?
marry_harry: what did you want to tell me now
marry_harry: i need a serious man here
SITS: I don’t know
marry_harry: are you dating any body now
SITS: No

Okay, at this point, she seemed to give up on me. (laughs) I’m guessing she had a better fish on a different line, or my scintillating personality just wasn’t coming through. (laughs) But it’s easy to imagine the person sitting there, typing, and checking off the items to ask about from the list, isn’t it?

So I’m asking the men of Wireclub that might read this:

Does this seem familiar to you? If so, how often are you baited with this lure? Are your encounters similar to this, or different, and if different, how so?

(Edited by StuckInTheSixties)
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Hyenablood
Hyenablood: hey not to feel left out, but us women get hit on alot by men doing the same thing, sits,
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

My impression is that women getting hit on by men are being hit on for things of a sexual nature. (Perhaps I'm wrong.)

The inquiries I'm describing aren't (apparently) sexual in nature. They might be once the conversation moves out of Wireclub to Yahoo, but I don't know. I've never followed through on that.

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I was here
I was here: Maybe it is one of those bot deals. I heard there are bots on Wire and I'm not talking Robot Butler or his brother Help Bot.

I mean fishing bots...to get info from people from scammers.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

No, this is not a bot. It's not automated in any way. There is a person(s) sitting there, typing, and to some degree, replying.

In the above "conversation," I was being somewhat cursory with my replies. But if I was to ask questions, I'd also get answers.

But the drift is always the same. It's always towards:

"Let's talk further via Yahoo."

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I was here
I was here: I guess I don't get it then...why talk there when you can talk here?

I have had men ask me if I have cam yada, yada, yada but I always act like I don't know what it is and make them explain. Bahahahaha...maybe I should open my email back up. It was fun to mess with their heads. Some just gave up but a few were real serious...even explaining how to hook a cam up when I told them I had one but I didn't know how to hook it up...if they could only help me....I would cam with them.

Bahahahahaha
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

Well, in the past I've had encounters that were unambiguously offers for services - specifically cam performances, or photographs - of a sexual nature. The come-on was straightforward:

If you wanna cam-show photos contact me at @ dot com.

These aren't that way. Yet they're quite insistently trying to get me to jump from Wireclub messaging into non-Wireclub messaging.

So they're up to SOMETHING.

My best guess is that it's a variation on what I've heard about many times. They're looking for lonely guys that they can cultivate some sort of relationship with, hopefully that will be romantic, so that they can then come up with some reason to ask for money or something by tugging on the romantic heartstrings of the gullible victim.

But since I've never taken that jump to Yahoo with this, I can't say for certain. And really, since I can't say for certain, and I'm not willing to investigate it very deeply, I'm more interested in trying to find out how many others are being hit on this way.

That's the main thrust of this thread. Who else is being hit on in the way I've described?

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davidk14
davidk14: .

I get them all the time. Lately, I just hit the good old ignore button. But I used to ask them what a 26 year old hot lookin' chick wanted with a 58 year old man. No reply came back. I then started asking them how much money were they lookin for. That too stopped them from relying. So, like I said, I just hit the ignore button now.

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Jetters
Jetters: Scam, green card or both Sits.

And thats why Im never showing online, as the girls get the same ridiculous, pigeon English conversations.
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__Kally_
__Kally_: well..maybe Rod should be checkin I.D.'s at the door!!! lol

stranger danger!!!!!
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firemandan
firemandan: I'm new here, and within 2 hours of joining I had several inquires like Stuck in the Sixties mentioned. I was skeptical right away. I ignored the first few, but then decided to play around a bit. I told one I was looking for a woman to support me financially, and told another I had herpes. Told her I caught herpes from yahoo. For some reason I have only had 2 more inquires since then lmao.
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Jetters
Jetters: so THATS what all that itching is when I get on yahoo
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firemandan
firemandan: lmao
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I was here
I was here: ~ your name
~ your age
~ where are you from
~ what do you do
~ are you single
~ do you have children
~ what do you want from Wireclub

But your guys profile answers all those questions except the last one.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

Many times I've pointed that out, Tink. It's just part of the unimaginative script they use to try to engage the guy in conversation.

And usually, if you give them a whiff of criticism or something, they stop messaging. They realize that you're probably a dead end, and that the probability of success lies elsewhere.

This entire thing must be a numbers game. They hit many, many men, I'm guessing. Even so, if they can get one good gullible sucker, it's a sucessful endeavor.

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calybonos
calybonos: Let's not be so quick to judge.Everlasting relationships can be found this way.

I found my first 7 wives here.
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~LoisLane~
~LoisLane~: "Euphemistic Interpretation Specialist" hahaha I actually laughed out loud with that.

I know I get the same stuff too and you can always tell what they are leading up to...(Even tho you are asking the men) I get my share of this crap..I find the men way more blunt tho. "I can make good husband" and so on. Its like they say what they think they should say you know. "You are beautiful blah blah you seem so nice" .. You are so right with saying something off script like "Whats shakin tonight" lols. It seems to through them right off their questions.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

(laughs)

Yeah, I sat there for a minute or two trying to think of some sort of bullshit job title. That's what I came up with.

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DiIIy
DiIIy: Give them a go SITS they be all looking for love or giving hackers time to get in your computer bahahahahaaaa screamsssssssss scammers

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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

If I was more computer savvy, and had a better idea of what sort of risks (if any) would be involved in crossing over from Wireclub into Yahoo/Hotmail, I'd be very interested in pursuing a cheapo-cheapo "investigation" to try to find out just where these people are trying to lead me, what the ultimate scam is.

But woefully, I'm quite the computer dork, and really don't know whether or not I'd be placing myself at risk by doing so. Maybe one of you hack-jockies can shed some light on this ...

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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

Another thought:

It seems to me that some thought and planning has gone into how this is happening, as they seem to be very careful about not violating the Wireclub Terms of Service. I think they're carefully staying within the boundaries here in Wireclub, and once you connect with them outside, that's when whatever they're up to will come out of the tool box.

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Wild__
Wild__: I get a lot of random pm's and when I'm bored enough to play along I've noticed the same pattern.

However, I look at the profile and ask questions. If it says oh say Seattle, I ask about life in Seattle. I've observed that at first the question is dodged but when pushed I always get a similar sob story about having lived there until mom n dad were killed in auto accident and now living with uncle in...(third world country) blah blah blah.

I suspect that sooner or later money will be asked for, but I've never been bored enough to let it get that far. LOL
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__Kally_
__Kally_: i tend to ask few/lots of questions...lol
but i'm nosey and like to get to know ppl *kicks at the ground*
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everreadybunny
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~LoisLane~
~LoisLane~: Maybe people dont find you interesting enough to send you anything........

Just sayin...
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Wild__
Wild__: Or just maybe the wabbit gets banned before any scammers have a chance!

Perhaps
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