The Current Trend In Popular Music ... StuckInTheSixties: ... is using a lot of different instruments that are "unconventional" for rock music (not guitars, keyboards, etc.). It doesn't matter that the people playing these different instruments have no real ability to actually play them. It's more about the IDEA of playing these instruments than the actual playing of them. It's more about what it LOOKS LIKE to play them than to actually play them. And if they can actually coax a note or two out of those instruments, so much the better, but the actual sound isn't really all that important. I saw Bon Iver on the Jimmy Fallon show the other night. A guy played the triangle. Really. Seriously. With a straight face. The triangle. This is what I call the "Arcade Fire Syndrome." ~LoisLane~: Jeez thats as bad as playing the cow bell hahaha. Too bad theres no video to go along with it LOLS. Anne aka Mags: Most, what I would call, 'bubblegum pop music' is fake nowadays and YouTube does nothing to alleviate this when you have the likes of Rebecca Black and other silly little girls allowed access to autotune and a microphone and really crap vid clips! The likes of Aretha, Fats Domino, Joe Cocker and Alison Moyet would have NO CHANCE of succeeding in today's music industry if they were just starting out! A very sad and pathetic state of affairs! katy: Any serious musician doesnt really fret (pun intended) over what other "musicians" are or are not doing. Whether last nights wonder star coughs up a looger as if playing an instrument or shuffles cards like a musical instrument is immaterial. I know I just play the piano to the best of my ability, and enjoy it. Let the others fumble around all they want. ღ♪♫♥ßǟɖɢɨʀℓ♥♫♪ღ: roflmfao !!!!!! @ playin a triangle with a straight face. i couldnt even do it straight faced in school bahahahahahaha mind u i can play the drums (electronic or acoustic). music these days is treated with less respect than the "good old days" its very rare to put a real instrument in front of a musician and say play this they would just look at u like ur mad. i can have two teaspoons back to back click out a tune and claim to be a musician these days and peeps wouldnt even blink an eye lid now thats sayin something Anne aka Mags: My son has just started learning guitar. Admittedly, this was instigated by his 'epicness' at guitar hero, but I believe that if he puts in the same amount of dedication into learning guitar as he does into gaming then he will be really good. He certain has the dexterity required and I have surrounded him with music from the likes of Ray Charles & Otis Redding through to Ladysmith Black Mombaza! Geoff: Mag, I hate disagree with you on two points. 1. Pop music has been bad since the Osmonds. 2. Adele made it as a star today through sheer musical talent. And a rich diversity of music in their environment is essential for a budding musician. Anne aka Mags: Geoff, I just think it would be more difficult for them. I agree with what you say in reference to 'budding musicians'. My comment was more in reference to the sea of 'pretenders' that flood the industry now. At least Donny Osmond doesn't need autotune and can sing at the drop of a hat should the need arise. Remember he gave 'the Power' to the Department of Youth. Ask Alice Cooper! LOLs StuckInTheSixties: I guess I just have a fascination with various "trends" I've seen come and go. It' a matter of mimicking what others do. Some trends are very obvious, such as the annoying use of "Autotune" to give the singer that quasi-robot voice (a trend that, thankfully, seems to be slacking off). A few of the trends I've seen are: ~ use of small "console" pianos (smaller than an upright piano) with the piano positioned near the center of the stage (I think Coldplay started this trend) ~ setting up drum sets in really weird and awkward configurations ~ use of very stripped-down drum sets (bass drum/snare/hi-hat/one cymbal) ~ electric bass with a shoulder strap so long that the bass dangles down near the knees ~ use of antique-style microphones ~ getting rid of all electronic keyboards ~ bringing back electronic keyboards Another current trend is scraggly beards. For a little while it was appearing very nerd-like. StuckInTheSixties: Well, there's Auto-Tuning, and there's Auto-Tuning. The comparison to Photoshopping freckles is apt for what they do with singers that can't really sing very well, like Ashley Simpson or Ke$ha. They fix those sour notes. But there's that Auto-Tuning like Cher or Jamie Foxx - robot vocals. StuckInTheSixties: Moderation, or modulation? (In music terminolgy, modulation refers to changing of pitch or key.) Anne aka Mags: LOL SITS. I did mean moderation! as in use in SMALL doses. NOT the whole bloody song! ~LoisLane~: The auto tuning sounds good your right Mags, when its done in moderation. (Aerosmith *Sweet Emotion*) Cher did use that for about 3 songs maybe (not bad out of 150). The difference with that is, she can actually sing so to modify her voice a little to sound funky was fun. Britney Spears (even tho I love her) last 3 cd's were auto tuned out the wazoo but then again she never did claim to be some great singer. Malobear: A musician friend that I worked with for a while a few years back also worked alot of studio dates in Nashville,Tenn. We got discussing about Hank Williams Jr. He told me the man couldnt hold a note and when he recorded,during mixdown they would use then a Fairlight system to correct his off-pitch singing. He said in Nashville there was a inside joke. Hank Jrs nickname is BoCefus.The inside people referred to him as Bull-Fecus lol I asked my friend saying well,that was fine for the studio,but what would Hank Jr do in live concerts? He said hell,the P.A. is crankin 120 dbs in front of 1000s of screamin rednecks,anything sounds good. ROFL StuckInTheSixties: colonthepunctuation says: "pop music is at best for ppl who are too lazy to dig deeper" So if you "dig deeper," what do you find? Anne aka Mags: We need to explore non-western music more. Western music is but a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what is really out there. Malobear: This is a old video of FZ take on the decline of the music business and still relates to todays industry. He talks about some other funny stuff as Frank was always known for. | Music Chat Room
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