Weight issues, why is a size 8 consider fat!!! (Page 4)
ohnonotthatguy: Don't give a flying fuck about sizes
All women are beautiful and sexy regardless of size, height or color.
Dont give me a rack of bones of a woman for lunch cause i can wait for a juicy big rib eye steak till dinner
Your all beautiful
brassinpockets: size 8, is considered fat, if you are 5 years old...... there is a such thing as anorexia
cherrybomb1: I've been everything from a size 16 to a size 3....now I'm an 8...from my experience...if you learn to love yourself at what ever size you are...it won't matter what the "outside" world thinks of you. Those that matter don't mind, and those that mind don't matter....everyone is beautiful in their own way. Once you can achieve the "loving yourself" part....the world takes on a whole rosy new glow.....love yourselves ladies....
Coffrey: Fat and skinny are just subjective labels we use, regardless of accuracy because they can also be used in the derogatory. We're born with different body sizes and you just have to live with what you have. I would much rather have a happy "fat" girl than some miserable skinny bitch who is on all sorts of diets and exercises just to fulfill some feeling of inadequacy because of our culture of where if there are no bony protrusions, you're too large. If a girl ever says to me "I can't eat that, it has too many carbs", she's gone.
violeta23: I'm a firm believer that you have no real right to express an unnecessary view on someone else's body - especially if it's negative. It causes a negative thought habit and is...a very unhealthy, incredibly unhappy way to live. If I identify as fat or thin or anywhere in between that's what I am. And who does it harm? Nobody.
As long as I like myself that's all that matters. Your view on your body is the only one that matters. And if I like my body the way it is, whether it's very thin or obese, that's great and should be commended. After all, you have no say if how I treat my body or what condition it's in or even what it should look like.
Health comes in many different forms because we're all so different. What's a healthy size or weight for me may not be healthy for you. Health is not 100-130lbs and sizes between 2 and 8. It's about habits and lifestyle, if I exercise everyday and eat well but I'm 150lbs or whatever as opposed to an 'ideal' of 130, 130 is just an ideal. I'm healthy RIGHT NOW because I'm treating my body well and eating right etc. etc. Starving myself to get down to 130 would be unhealthy. But even so....
So what if I'm not healthy? So what? Is it anything to do with you what I put in my body? No. So focus on yours and leave mine alone.
There really needs to be a change in how we see fat and women (sometimes men, but less so) feeling like they need to JUSTIFY the way their body looks or the size they're at. Absolutely you don't. Discrimination and hatred of any size is wrong and shouldn't be tolerated. I see lots of 'I know I'm fat but DAMN guuuuurl I have some hella good curves and men want curves and not bone.' Well great. Lovely if a bunch of men appreciate objectifying my body, but that's not the point, because you're also hating on someone else just for the way their body is. IT'S ALL BAD IT ALL NEEDS TO STOP.
I recommend you check out
rawwomen.tumblr.com and stophatingyourbody.tumblr.com
it's all about body acceptance and love, developing an intolerance for size prejudice (subconscious or not) and it really analyses in deep what all this body hate means and how our brains process it - e.g. 'Oh I'm not fat, THEY'RE the fat ones' and when you get that thought it really means 'well I'm more socially acceptable than they are, I'm more attractive (for instance) than they are.' But this is really deflecting from the real issue that...we all hate ourselves. Truly, we do. Subconsciously or not. And we need to get rid of these hateful, bitter and negative thoughts patterns to be able to do a 180 on our esteem. Once you stop thinking hateful things about other women, you start to feel more positive about yourself. To pit others against an impossibly high superficial standard is not only damaging and destructive (if you voice it) but it's poisons your own mind because you pit yourself against the same damaging superficial standard.
So do that, change your thoughts patterns and also stay away from the media. All the trashy magazines, America's Next Top Models, TV adverts....all of it. Just try and stay away.
This women is also fantastic. If her body makes you uncomfortable, you're the first step there to changing your thinking. She loves herself, her body is absolutely fine and normal even though she's classed as 'obese.' And it's amazing and refreshing to see a woman who completely and utterly accepts and loves herself. If you scroll through a bit you'll see a lot of body positivity stuff too. Fat bodies take up space, maybe more space than yours, but so what? Their bodies are still good because all bodies are good. And most importantly, THEY'RE STILL HUMAN BEINGS DESERVING OF RESPECT. They still deserve to be loved and admired and be found attractive, too. They are not ugly/lazy/greedy like all the connotations that come with 'fat'. 'Fat' doesn't just mean fat anymore, it means sooooo much more. Fat never harmed anyone. We NEED fat. And just because someone is unhealthy it doesn't give you the right to treat them like shit anyway.
There was also a quote about cake and taking the side of the cake, I would link to it but I can't find it. If anyone happens to be scrolling through and can find it for me, much appreciated.
PurrPanther: People say ''IT'S OKAY TO BE BIG'' but IT'S NOT because it's unhealthy!! There are more health risks associate with obesity than anorexia!!!
We are not afraid to tell an anorexic person that she is too skinny but if we dared telling a fat one she's too big than we are discriminating. Anorexia AND obesity are both extremely dangerous.
violeta23: How the fuck would you know what's someone health state is by just looking at their body? You don't know someone's lifestyle just by LOOKING at them. People for years have called me fat, but do you know my lifestyle? Do you know that I eat the right kind of foods and eat healthily? That I don't eat giant portions? That I don't smoke or drink? That I eat until I'm full and don't gorge? That I exercise three times a week and play badminton once or twice a week? That I walk or cycle virtually everywhere because I don't have a car?
And all this you would never know about me because you never bothered to ask, you just labelled my body, or someone else's body, as 'big' or 'fat' and therefore unhealthy.
I don't even know why I'm bothering to justify myself to you. A lot of shallow, superficial, bitchy human beings would say my body is fat. They assume that because my body is fat, I therefore must be unhealthy.
There are more risks associated with obesity than there are with anorexic? Prove it. http://www.squidoo.com/anorexia-vs-obesity According to this, actually....there aren't. There are fewer risks.
People have all kinds of different natural weights and are different shapes and sizes. I see people whose bodies are all kinds of sizes, and they're all healthy. How do I know that? Because they're all alive, living and breathing right this moment. They must be doing something right, surely? There's no 'one' set weight or size that's health. Health is all kinds of different things to different people. I'll give you an example. People with a larger frame, like me (you can determine frame with the wrist test - if you fingers overlap, you're small, if they just touch, medium, if they don't touch- large) and so therefore someone with a larger frame will need more fat or weigh to cover their body than someone with a small frame. Why? Because the skeletal frame is larger. There needs to be more flesh to cover a greater surface area.
There is more fat-shaming than there is thin-shaming. Thin people have what we call 'thin privilege.' They aren't shamed for the way their bodies looked, and there are no negative connotations attached to being thin - in fact, almost all of them are positive. That person is 'too' controlled, 'too' disciplined, all admirable traits in our culture where fat is bad.
And let's get to the fucking point here. I am sick of people like you shaming people for the way their bodies look under a guise of health. You don't give a single shitting fuck about my health. I'm a stranger! You don't give a fuck! You see a body that you hate - that you're intolerant of - that you fear you are or may become - and you shame me for it.
So don't go preaching that you're concerned for people's health when you tell them their bodies are 'too big.' You don't know someone's health, and what's more: you don't care. You just need an seemingly 'kinder' excuse to shame someone for the way their body looks.
You demonstrate you don't care for someone's health when you destroy potentially destroy someone's mental health and self-esteem when you tell them their bodies are unacceptable. You have no regard for their mental health. Even more proof that you really, truly, could not give a fuck.
And let me just say....so what if someone's unhealthy? Not only do you not care about a stranger's health, but does that give you a right to determine therefore how worthy they are of your respect? So what if someone's unhealthy? That's their body. Theirs. They have every right to care for it as little or as much as they like. You care for yours, you hate it and love it as much as you like, because that is your right. But it is NOT your right to shame someone for the way their body looks under a guise of so called 'concern' for their health.
cherrybomb1: very well said violeta23...you're a well spoken young woman....and I think you're beautiful....inside and out !
violeta23: thank you, that means a lot, that' there are at least a few people in the world not completely ruined by fat-phobia
anjie791: A size 8 on whom? It's all about proportion, and body type. If a normally built/non muscular girl was 5' tall and weighed lets say 150 pounds and wore a size 8, then yes they would be considered obese, because the height to weight ratio does not fit within the range of her BMI. But then again, maybe the person could be a male that is 5' tall and extremely jacked ...the ambiguity goes on. ...So my response to this is: it depends. Generally speaking though, a size 8 IS NOT FAT. What the hell is wrong with people? Oh noo she eats 3 meals a day and doesn't throw her food up! Unfortunately in North American society a size zero is viewed as beautiful. I say eat that cupcake, and be happy! I love small, big, extra big, blueberry chocolate, curly haired, turnip loving ....whatever kinda person. Today's society saddens me. I'm about 5'7 and 125-130 pounds and I have a lean muscular build. One day I was trying on a dress, and this little girl told me if I lost some weight I could fit into size zero. wtf? Voluptuous people are stunning (ex jessica biel,beyonce)- I am jealous of some my friends because they have that nice plump booty that I've always wanted! (I have a bony ass)- skin and bone is not attractive! You're supposed to fill out a dress. gawd people. Personally I love eating! and I love people that look normal.
PurrPanther: In Canada during 2004, 71 people between the age of 12 and 44 died from eating disorders like anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa. On the opposite side of the scale, there was over 10,000 deaths (10,271 to be exact) from heart disease, diabetes, stroke, fatty liver disease, blood clots, hearts attacks and a host of other obesity-caused illnesses in overweight/obese patients, in 2004 alone. Oh, and that last statistic, was just for people between the ages of 12 and 44.
So if you really want to compare and say which illness is more deadly, then being overweight/obese is definitely more deadly. According to Statistics Canada, anorexia/bulimia is 22% deadly, being overweight is 57% deadly and obesity is 89% deadly.
violeta23: Who gives even the slighest fuck.
Poor health is not an excuse to ridicule and belittle another human being just for existing in the body they do.
PurrPanther: I do not make fun of poor health at all. I actually am concerned about poor health whether it's anorexia, bulimia or obesity. Thank you
violeta23: You care about a stranger's health? Bullshit.
So what if someone's in poor health? Not your body - not your business.
PurrPanther: Woww relax...I was just stating facts!! I'm not insulting anybody here why are you people so defensive? I just think health is important, I wasn't telling you to do this, or no do that? Was I?
I've been in poor health before and I know it's not fun, this is why I was concerned about society's health in general. I just wanted to promote good health. Wasn't talking directly about anyone here. ANYWAY seems like some people can't handle a harmless opinion on forum (which is usually made for opinions)
kolsed25: Seems that if you are a women and not built like a 13 year old boy,people say youre fat.i prefer my women have some curves,ike Marilyn Monroe...
Aussiekitty: Who wants to look like a bag of bones for many years l did cause l couldnt gain weight that easy l hated looking that thin but with the meds lve been taking made me gain weight now l have curves in places l never had before very happy the way l look now compared to before even my man is a big man and l find him sexy
shaychildofgod: I cant see how wearing a size 8is fat that is a very good size. I am on a diet to get down to a size 10 and that size isnt fat at all. The only reason I am going to lose weight is to be healthy and not because of what society says.
Neanderthal Gangsta: Well, Size 8 isn't exactly skinny, and some people consider anything not-skinny as "fat". Those people are wrong.