WIRE BLACKJACK IS NOT RANDOM!! (Page 2)

Corwin: Casinos encourage you to bet big... they're banking on the fact that the majority of Blackjack players are "gamblers" and will "lose" big.
Study the individual "table rules" carefully... the tables with the best odds have the highest stakes (minimum bets of 2 or even 3 figures ).

Say you'd rather tread lightly, and you find yourself a computer Blackjack machine off in the corner that allows minimum $5 bets... and study the rules... you'll see things like "Blackjack pays 1X" (rather than 1.5X )... or "Push goes to the Dealer"... that kind of thing... it tips the odds to the House, and it's a pointless game for suckers.


Oh, and here's the BIGGEST joke... let's say you want to become a high-stakes Pro Blackjack player and get rich... you go to the Casino daily with a $10,000 float playing $200 hands, and routinely walk out of there gleaning a few thousand bucks off of them... they'll just BAR you from the Casino. They're not in the business of handing out large sums of money, and it's their right to refuse business.

Worse yet, they'll send your ID to every OTHER Casino so they can keep their eyes out for you, and you won't find a table anywhere. You can only "nickel-and-dime" them and fly under the radar.... and THAT is why you can't get rich playing Blackjack.

Corwin: Hey Cire... you still want to quit your day-job?

Corwin: Now... as far as Wire's Blackjack is concerned, and how this pertains to the title of this Forum... (and sorry, Rod, but I gotta say it)...

... one, I'm almost certain that the cards are NOT "rigged".

BUT... that being said... as I explained previously, the odds are determined by the rules... Wire has no Split or Double-Down option. I haven't gotten out the calculator and figured out the exact odds regarding that, but I've played enough to determine that it must be somewhere around 50/50... and only IF you follow the system religiously like I do.

It's one thing to go through the motions and bore your face off to bank a little coin... something else to do that all day only to "break even".
I think I'd have more fun watching paint dry.

Corwin: It's actually worse than boredom... it can be INFURIATING.

Let's say I'm dealt a pair of Aces... that's the "optimal" hand... normally, you Split those, you've got a good chance at a pair of Blackjacks (and you've got double your bet on the table).

Better YET is a pair of Split Aces, and the Dealer is showing a crappy 6... Dealer's likely to Bust, so you win with anything... SO... you Double-Down on each Ace (you only get 1 card on a Double-Down)... and let's say you DO get the Blackjacks... you've got 4 times your initial bet on the table, Dealer Busts, and it pays 1.5X... times FOUR.

Cha-CHING, baby! It's really the only time the game gets remotely interesting.

On Wire?... A pair of Aces... GREAT... a flippin SOFT TWELVE.
It makes me want to punch my fist through the monitor.

WHlSKY:
Yeah. As humans we tend to automatically aim to see patterns. Our perception of ‘random’ to the naked eye (without calculating) will be tainted.

WHlSKY: Corwin, the real question is, what numbers should I play in the lottery tomorrow? 📝

cire_: a: I could have a beer (and several cigarettes) with you, Corwin (not sure that you'd accept the invitation.) 2: Yes yes, of course, over the 'long-run'... C: banning winners should be criminal... if you're the casino, you make the rules... change the rules in your favour or stfu....4: I appreciate the time you took to respond... sincerely... IV: start another thread on baccarat...

Corwin: Hell yeah, I'd have a beer with you. If you ever find yourself down here in the Niagara area, give me a shout.


@Jack -- Winning lotto numbers? No problem.

First you knock your head on the toilet and invent the Flux Capacitor... then buy a DeLorean... then it's just a matter of finding some gullible Libyans to trade you some Plutonium for an empty bomb-casing filled with used pinball machine parts.

BlueShirt1: Not rigged, ya say, Corwin?

I must be a monkey's uncle, then.

Now don't lecture me on probability theory or blackjack tactics. I've read more books than you LOL.

Yes, yes, even with not being able to split a pair, and not being allowed to double-down, one might still expect about two wins out of five.

Here you get around one win out of five.

I've done my own research.

er, spare a dime, buddy?


Oh, and other members may have noticed a pattern: When you get 13 free chips for logging in, you stand a reasonable chance of winning.

When you get 19 . . . might as well flush it down the toilet.

This is not coincidence, ma lovely Canadian friend.

zeffur: I've played a lot of blackjack & I also think WC blackjack is not statistically fair. In the real world, you are playing against the house with a shoe that has 1 to 8 decks--not an infinite deck (which seems to be the case with WC).

In addition, the number of won hands & blackjacks that WC gets verses the number that I get is much greater--that isn't statistical parity--so yeah, I'm not buying any arguments that WC is statistically fair--because in my experience, it most definitely has not been fair.

It also seems the odds slightly improve when you bet larger amounts--which should not be the case either...

Crash: Zeff , did you read all of what Corwin said? I thought just like you did till he explained statistical probability very well.

zeffur: I did read what he wrote... I also know what I am experiencing when I play blackjack in real life & when I play it on WC---and I stand by my comments based on my actual experiences... ymmv...

Crash: Yes but BJ on here is a severely limited version of BJ for real. Also, it's not clear if WC is dealing from a virtual deck or a RCG. I do admit it seems "rigged." However, I just don't see anyway around the math Corwin described. I supposed to actually test it you would need to play at least 100 games in a row , betting the same every time and see if you come close to even at the end.

zeffur: You could run that test. I haven't done so, but I've seen the WC BJ house get more 21s in a row than I've ever seen anywhere else... and I've never been dealt more 12s-14s in my life playing real black jack--which happens very frequently in WC BJ.

Crash: True. I think I made that argument in my first post on here.