AUTHORITARIAN VS PROPRIETARY ENTITLEMENT SOCIETIES (Page 2) junyabee: The non-empathy for the state and status of the external beyond their utilitarian value to you, you might want to reconsider in your attempts to come up with a holistic meaning and purpose of things (Post deleted by junyabee )  DIAMONDfire: i think there is a point in life that a man metaphorically shoots the gun. as a symbol of manhood. its a creative adaptation. junyabee: Part-1 man metaphorically shoots the gun. Part-2 as a symbol of manhood. Part-3 its a creative adaptation. Part 1 is insightful. Parts 2/3 you fall into species-centric hubris DIAMONDfire: a successful philosopher has attained intrinsic value, says Aristotle: philosophy is supremely useless and supremely elevating. (Metaphysics). also marked by his ability to teach what he has learnt. marked by contradictions. junyabee: "supremely useless and supremely elevating"-the subsequent atmospherics as the result of the affect on the recipeint.. DIAMONDfire: art is supremely useless and supremely elevating. if life was meaningless? how could this exist, art? knowledge itself is useless and elevating. its the nature of life is it not? junyabee: Isn't art part of the atmospheric expressions of the inherent components as that expressed knowledge which give the operational facilitating definition to life? DIAMONDfire: it is and it isn't. to put it crudely its not, art is intuitive. maybe thats where it comes from, the unknown? but in sense it is known because thats a universal law of cause and effect and philosophy is bound. you've used the expression the 'black hole of the eye of the needle.' wisdom. work. maybe its an exercise of the mind? but yes i would say it facilitates life. i think that is attributed to work. the nature of work. junyabee: but yes i would say it facilitates life. i think that is attributed to work. the nature of work-OK junyabee: Pessimism is more realistic of positive outcomes, while optimism would border on rose-colored Pollyanna glasses |