GHOSTS....Do you believe in them ????

uglycow10: I was a skeptic until I started hearing footsteps in the house...then I saw a friend (alive at the time) materialize from within my room and proceed to walk down the corridor....but almost as if he were not moving. I KNOW WHAT I SAW...wish someone could explain it. It was really scary!!!!

Captain Canada: I once woke up hearing gunshots downstairs in my home.scared the freaking tulips in my neighbors backyard for sure.I walked slowly due to fear just to find out one of the kids left the TV on in the sun-room,some movie about a sniper in the jungles of Colombia i think.

Laceysworld: Nah, I don't believe in that sort of thing.

LiptonCambell: If you researched how much resources you body dedicates to keeping your brain alive, the thought that it could exist without anything is kinda silly....

You saw some unexplainable events- it should stop at that. Instead, you're saying you've experienced something unexplainable, and then proceed to explain it completely based on guess work- when has that ever worked in human history?

uglycow10: I always look for the logical explanation....but sometimes it just os not there & that is when fear sets in....especially if I am alone

NiteMarcher: As their is a physical world, I do believe their is a spiritual world...

LiptonCambell: Lol thats like believing that, since theres a physical world, theres a cartoon world.....a place where Bug Bunny, SpongeBob SquarePants, and controversial cartoons of Muhammad all live together....

Captain Canada: I hear rumors that Spongebobby dude is gay.

LiptonCambell: Sponges are Asexual. Can't be gay. Can't be straight.

Laceysworld: Pansexual sponges! cool. Not many living things can call them selves pansexual. Only sponges and teenagers looking for attention by being unique

Captain Canada: Teenagers looking for attention????
Really???

Laceysworld: Ture story sarcastic sam.

NiteMarcher: As to whether one calls them a spirit, ghost, plasma or whatever one wishes to call them,
yes, I do believe in something that goes beyond the 3rd dimension as we know it...

LiptonCambell: Beyond our third dimension? Are you suggesting ghosts are time travellers?

NiteMarcher: Perhaps they are time travelers as you suggest considering they may appear for a moment and vanish the next. An other worldly presence would probably be a more accurate statement. Some can see, sense, hear or feel them while others may never have the opportunity of entertaining them during their entire lifetime.

LiptonCambell: I think those people are self-indulgent, and delusional. People who believe they can see or hear or sense ghosts do so because they have a desperate want to be unique, powerful, and important- especially in a world where it's hard to legitimately be that way.

When I was younger, I desperately wanted to be a savant- to be exceptional at something without even trying, and become incredibly important because of it. But it never happened. Anything I achieved was through hard, arduous work. And I absolutely believe there are people out there who want the easy way out.

drywitty: No

stonebutterfly: Just had something crazy happen. Heard a loud booming voice when I was. All alone. Found out someone killed themselves in our basement before we moved in......have had lots of shit happen here

LiptonCambell: Heard a noise= ghosts. No other possible explanation- what else could make a noise?

stonebutterfly: No not a noise, a voice. I was alone. It spoke a clear sentence.

LiptonCambell: Well, I wasn't there. I didn't experience what you experienced. But come on- my son has a toy where, if left on, it will randomly move 1/8th of an inch for no reason. Another one will make a reverse noise despite not moving and no one being within 10 feet of it. It doesn't mean ghosts are pushing the remote control and fucking with me- it means some things in life are unexplainable, and you've just got to accept that.

Personally, it annoys the crap outta me when someone experiences something they cannot explain, then proceeds to explain it, and gets pouty when other people has doubts. There are a million and one possible explanations to what you experienced that doesn't involve you experiencing something that makes you more special and unique to everyone else (noisy neighbours, faulty electronics, someones messing with you, you misunderstood a bump for a word, you were groggy and half asleep, you were on drugs or suffering from heat exhaustion, a homeless man wandered into your house realized you were there and left) but you instantly conclude DEAD GUYS TRYING TO TALK TO mE!

That crap annoys the crap outta me. Keep your mind open to the banal and common.Don't jump to conclusions, and don't follow those jumps to dogmatic faith. It's self-indulgent.

stonebutterfly: However you want to frame this issue, the fact is that unexplainable things happen and the common catch - all for those events is ghost activity.
Is it possible that people are aware of everything that you have said and still have experiences they find, to say the least, curious.
I certainly don't pretend to know what exactly is happening, but I do know the difference between the banal and the extraordinary.
Discussing things that are not well understood is anything but self indulgent, in fact admitting to experiencing the unexplainable often leads to judgement and abuse. I don't recall saying if I did or didn't believe in ghosts, in fact I would be very surprised if dead spirits had nothing better to do than annoy the living. But, things happen that poke holes in any neat realities we can construct, to ignore that is foolish.

LiptonCambell: I'm sorry, but i find it hard to believe that everyone is aware of everything. Like the "I am special because I witnessed something special", this has the same problem- to suggest that we are negate all the common possibilities, you first need to establish that you are, essentially, all knowing and infallible. And to suggest that is just silly...I do not believe everyone is 'aware' of all possible explanations, to a point where they can only come to ludicrous conclusions...

How could you possibility know for a fact that someone didn't sneak into your house? Or that someone isn't messing with you? Or that you suffered from some kind of mental issue?

You cannot. So these issues will always loom over the situation, despite your desire to gloss over them.

>>>Discussing things that are not well understood is anything but self indulgent

Well then lets start at the appropriate point- before you've made up your mind as to what had happened.

What, exactly, did you hear? When? Where? What were you doing? Were you lucid?

>>>n fact admitting to experiencing the unexplainable often leads to judgement and abuse. I

But you didn't do that. You didn't admit to "experiencing the unexplainable"- you admitted to an experience that you insist could only be ghosts.

It's not unexplainable if you already have an explanation.

stonebutterfly: Your response is full of logical falla ies.
The nature of evidence and discussion on a chat forum on the internet is, of course, limited to the anecdotal.
If you wish to pass yourself off as the voice of reason and reasonable explanation, please make your standards sensible. The legal proffesion may have succeeded in making mockery of eyewitness accounts, but normal human discourse need not.
How about we assume that all the normal tests one would apply to any situation were applied to the best of the ability of an individual to a situation that they bother to mention as remarkable.
And please do not only read part of a comment and ignore the overall message. I clearly stated that I do not have a single explanation. The entire comment was written with that intent. And the reason for posting on this forum was stated as well.

uglycow10: THIS IS FOR YOU, LIPTON.....
First, allow me to say that I am well balanced and have never had any mental issues in my life. However, I do believe that there are events that occur, and for which we have no logical explanation. Here is my experience:
I returned home from dinner with my son, daughter and boyfriend.Son and boyfriend entered the house with us but exited into the backyard.My daughter & I went upstairs to my bedroom.
I was standing approx 2 feet from the opened door...out of nowhere I was looking at my boyfriend,from the back....I saw him in an outfit that he owned, but was not wearing when we went out...I saw head to toe !....
It was not translucent; not foggy; not fractured in anyway.
I was looking at a real person, exiting my room.
MY daughter called me and I turned for a millisecond, and when I turned back....there was nothing there.
I ran to all rooms upstairs and there was no one. I ran downstairs & my bf and son were still in the backyard & claimed to not have entered the house.
I know what I saw. I know what I experienced.
I am open to any reasonable explanation.
...and no, I was not drinking or tired or sick or stressed or worried or depressed....none of that!

LiptonCambell: >>>However, I do believe that there are events that occur, and for which we have no logical explanation.

I agree. Such things should be free to be discussed, but I feel it's stiffing to slap a label on it. mysteries are mysteries. The moment you decide you know what it is, and won't change you mind, is the moment you close the doors to a universe of possibles.

>>>I was looking at a real person, exiting my room.

Just throwing it out there- overheated? Over active imagination? A sympton of a more serious health issue you were not aware of at the time?

I just don't see how seeing something usual amounts to ghosts....not that I subscribe to any of the ideas I'm about to suggest, but it could equally be time travel, telepathy, multiverse travel- although i'm more erring on the idea that it's just a trick of an eye. I think i see my boss all the time at work in the corner of my eye....but I'm just tricking myself....earlier today, I could've sworn i heard my cell go off....but it didn't.

we are fallible. To suggest that everything we experience absolutely happened is really misunderstanding the human experience.