Is there really a God tell me your Opnion (Page 35) ghostgeek: More than likely those same people who could move huge blocks of stone in a way that leaves us dumbfounded would scratch their heads in wonder on hearing that twentieth century man walked on the moon. ghostgeek: It didn't take God to get Americans to the moon and it didn't take ancient gods to move 200 ton lumps of stone around. All it required was the human brain doing what it's supposed to do: think!  kittybobo34: The 2 ton blocks were ingenious. They put wooden blocks around the stone that are round on the outside surface,, then they roll the stone to its spot. Archeologists discovered a marking on one of the stones, translated "attach blocks here"  h0nd0: please.. i have a 150 + IQ.... i rolled boats down to the water.. in sand.. on logs.. i know the significance of moving heavy objects.. give me a fulcrum and i can move the world.. holy cow.. men today cannot move 200 ton rocks from one place to another.. they can however take a stone and carve it .. in its place.. or make a block out of crete.. from the sandstone.. ghost.. they didnt discover rocket fuel. to fuel an expedition.. but im sure if they had that fuel they wouldve done it.. thats history.. like the blocks.. and we have no idea about them and they have no idea about us.. but isnt that why we are asking these questions about if we believe is there really a GOd.. because all of us dont know.. just assume.. well i for one does not assume.. there isnt a God because and ive told you why.. falling from my boat.. doomed.. and wondering about my ex wife.. and my kids.. sudden call.. spoken too by God about them.. catching a fish desperately needed after talking to a fisherman on a boat named the same as my ex wife.. not knowing that.. .. until i circled around the backside of it going to where he pointed.. miracles dont just happen perfectly.. unless your blessed by reason.. they can make a ship weighting 1000s of tones in a shipyard.. but thats the only way a stone of that magnitude can be moved.. like a ship in a shipyard.. but where ever it comes to rest is where the next stone has to be.. figure that one out.. h0nd0: 2 ton blocks don't even measure up.. being in the weights and measures business.. 4400 lbs is hardly 440000 or even close to the conversation.. plus show me actual footage without animation.. of a stone man can move with precision.. I'll believe it when I see it.. ghostgeek: Asking for actual footage of large blocks of stone being moved around in times past is pushing it a bit far, don't you think, seeing as the camera is a recent invention? Still, a couple of minutes Googling came up with this: ghostgeek: If you fancy a read, try this site: https://drmsh.com/transporting-trilithon-stones-baalbek-applied-physics-ancient-aliens/ Here's an excerpt: On page 42 the author introduces what will become for him an analogous point of reference for his proposed solution to moving the trilithon of Baalbek: “. . . 1,250,000 kilograms . . . is the weight of the great block of granite the Empress Catherine II of Russia (1762-1796) . . . carried to St. Petersburg (now Leningrad) to serve as a colossal base to the equestrian statue of Peter the Great. This is likely the largest stone ever moved by man, one and a half times the weight trilithon blocks [at Baalbek.]” Hope you caught that — an object 1.5 times the weight of the trilithon was successfully moved in the 18th century — no modern cranes. They did it with manpower, not alien know-how. He mentions other large objects successfully moved by human engineers, but this one gets special attention because it was a larger problem than the trilithon. h0nd0: another gullable video.. of a fake statue that weighed nothing.. because it was wood.. and plyable.. they made a fortune on that grant.. the trilithon yeah.. we know about the design and construction there.. and hey the french got it goin on when it comes to design and constuction.. but..men were doing bigger and harder things 10000 yrs earlier.. why did it take the world 1770 yrs. in this modern age to try to re- erect this capability.. maybe because they were used to using more mental capabilities then than in your modern era?.. if men can do greatness.. imagine what God can do.. anyway.. this is neither here nor there in the belief of God.. men will be men.. God exists.. so God must be God.. ghostgeek: So you think stone aged man walked on the moon and explored Mars? Maybe, but we've yet to find the footprints that'll prove the contention. As for God, care to list His telephone number. kittybobo34: Just think, no bible would mean no Quran, the people in the middle east wouldn't be crazy anymore ! ghostgeek: No Bible, no Jews, no Holocaust and quite possibly no Second World War. Mmm ... would we have relativity by any other name? h0nd0: its bizarre to think, nothing could fix what is inevitable.. crazy is not being at peace.. if you believe having nothing to imply a repair can be had.. i must argue.. only man has the concept that anything other than himself or the life he leads is trivial.. and though it seems that way.. theres still that looming fact.. of uncertainty.. trivializing the trivia.. Go with God and you wont be disappointed.. youll view life in its Grace.. and maybe if youre lucky.. God may speak directly to you as he has to me.. and you will feed his children abundantly.. have nothing and feel rich.. forget everything and know .. be still .. and watch the gifts brought to you.. remember its better to belive in God and find there is no God ,, than it is to not believe and find out there is a GOD.. cuz then there will be no discussion that can save you.. ghostgeek: Well now, Hondo, you seem to be in a voluble mood so answer me a simple question. Why would a being that created everything care if its creations believed in it? ghostgeek: Yes, I suppose that could be it. On the other hand, could it be that priests compiled the Bible and they did better than pretty well out of getting people to believe in God? h0nd0: his care for belief is not of this dimension.. its in the creation ..and the dimension where angels reside.. which is why you grow up believing your good from the beginning.. why wouldnt a bible help? if you believe in second chances.. believe me .. youre living in it right now.. the ckoran from a false prophet means as much as money.. all the disciples and prophets were chosen by God .. not man.. muhammad wasnt chosen by any angel to which people also didnt contest.. since many men felt they have been approached by angels also.. and prophecied.. also.. prayers are only helpful to you if you are somewhat of a worshiper.. and follow the last commandment,, ..(it never hurts to pray fervently..or truthfully)... kitty.. ive seen churches.. perform perfectly and not make a single dollar eventually being forced to close down.. ive also lived next door to a well known preaching giant.. who never live long enough to enjoy all he had given to God.. baptising over 8,ooo,000... people .. so who ever runs it.. to wake people up to see there is a God .. more power to them.. we need more of them and better people.. for without the bible.. as you both put it.. there would be mass hysteria.. these last 2000 yrs.. baptiser R.I.P. >> ghostgeek: Mass hysteria without the Bible? Most of humanity has lived and died without a single fit of giggles caused by not knowing the Good Book. kittybobo34: I think the standard of morals in human society has reached a point where we do not need religion to make people behave anymore. The need for an Alpha male to keep us in line is over. h0nd0: the need for religion?.. to behave.. its not about behaving its about making the creator right and just .. so there can be man in his dimension.. hes there already.. if a man who created a false prophecy tells you to honor the true prophecy.. by his works to give his people direction.. you can say thats good.. just as you can believe in nothing of the sort and argue its good.. too.. but all this.. all these knowns and unknowns are done for you to make a choice.. the whole earth made a choice once already... God.. in all his Glory did the nessesary thing.. .. then saw that in his path was obliviation.. as they say in quantum theories.. if you can change the past the branch of the new future can not ever be like the past future.. that future seizes to exist.. so man was given that.. second chance reality.. but he is squandering it.. ghost geek you dont know nothing about humanities living or dying.. all you know is in books .. like the bible.. and all written in stone.. or some other form of conveying the past to the future.. just another quantum theory..its not hard to mix all things into one vessel and taste a good life... its harder for me to believe you guys know so much but cant see the true ingredients to your fine wine of life.. the whole flavor is to recieve your birth right beside his other creations.. in harmony.. making that dimension a special blend... youll figure it out.. i already have .. theres no use mockin.. while you wait.. you nor i can change the future.. peace.. ghostgeek: If I don't know nothing, then presumably I know something, but I'll admit I don't how to change the past. Probably a good job because I'd surely mess everything up worse than they are now. |
