Agreeance yet...

Meese: while this seems like a great idea you have to consider the following, how will this be fair? the creator of this club automatically kicks males as soon as they enter her room, would this go for straight people who want to just check out the LGBT room? also, because i am bringing this into question, will i be seen as hom0phobic, or just concerned, will this post be deleted because people just want the instant answer of getting a room or will people discuss it. we;ve all been in chat rooms many times, we know how wire works, THERE WILL BE trolls, hom0phobes, teenagers, old people, closeminded people and just general disgusting people that will pop into this room soley because even in the 21st century, there are still those among us that do not accept that which they dont understand, this is just a concern i raise because i know that those people will enter that room soley for the harrassment

ava_california: It is a good idea but it would need a moderator at all times. The
potential for trolls would be tremendous.

danigrrl: The chat rooms I've created in the past have been for women only and the disclaimer says so. That's why males who entered were kicked. This is true for male friends of mine as well.

What I'm suggesting here is an LGBT room. That would mean that males, females, and those who identify with both sexes will be welcome.

LGBT allies or straight people would be welcome as well. It would hopefully be a room for respectful discussion so no discrimination should be taking place.

Furthermore, I'm just pushing for the room. I'm not nominating myself for room moderator.

I just want the room to happen but I agree with the previous poster, a moderator will definitely be needed.

MercuryDragon: As a moderator, I suggest simply making a member created room. Then, you can remove homophobes at your own discretion.

☣DeviantlyⒾⓃⓈⒶⓃⒺ☣: so many good points given in the top 3 post. but most important, what the moderator said, yes a member created room would be our only choice at the moment and in the future. and yes trolls will NEVER grow up, will NEVER stop harassing ppl. as much of a awesome idea that is. it would most likely fail due to ONE thing...

TROLLS & Bullies/Cyber Bullies
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I AM STRAIGHT BUT I SUPPORT LGBT!

danigrrl: The problem with that is not enough people know which rooms to turn to. When it comes to member created rooms, those who have the most friends on their list get the most traffic. And even those people can't be around 24/7 to keep the room up and looked after. Time difference is another big issue. I've rarely been able to find an LGBT room before 8 pm my time. And, again, even when I do, the numbers are very small.

If the room had at least two moderators, I think it could work. The fact is other chat rooms do have LGBT rooms. The trolls pop in but they make quick work of them. So it's definitely possible.

danigrrl: Nothing to see here. Post deleted by user.

MercuryDragon: Make your own room rather than looking for one. As bi person, as well as a moderator, I am for the idea of a member created LGBT room, but a public one would involve too much controversy.

Edit: I would even make such a room, but my kicks are for 24 hours and remove users from all rooms, so that is out of the question.

danigrrl: Controversial as in others will find it discriminatory? Or do you mean the trolling will create too much of a problem for WC?

Zhya: Most likely discriminatory. If it's a singled-out public room, then it's a simple easy target for trolls/bored people to find those of this 'LGBT'.

It's singling out; it's like sniping the ocean.

MercuryDragon: Agreed.

danigrrl: I don't think it's singling out if the room is opened up to LGBT allies as well. Which really just means people who aren't homophobic. Rooms like Canadian Chat and Sexy Room are also "specific" rooms.

MercuryDragon: There are no "Spanish" public rooms, etc, despite Spanish being one of the most widely used languages on Earth.

The reason for there being a "Canadian" room is that this website is created by Canadians and its servers are in Canada.

If you direly need to express the desire to have a public LGBT room, let Admin know.

Again, just create a member room, and when it catches on, people will create rooms like it even in your absence.

Zhya: Canadian Chat exists because this is a Canadian site. Sexxy Room exists in the same manner the Hornny Room tries to exist: to redirect traffic of that specific behavior.

Edit: A created room is as alive as you make it to be.

danigrrl: LGBT rooms are far different than language rooms. Even then, WC has a Non English Language Room LGBT people have been taking to the net since it was first open to the public to talk about q#*^z issues. For many on this site, the internet is the only way they can express their true selves. I'm fortunate to be Canadian but many others on WC live in countries where they can't express their sexuality. Most chat sites have LGBT rooms because the internet is supposed to be a safe haven for queers to be themselves.

If WC can have a Sexy Room and a Land of Exile room, I think it's reasonable to ask for a LGBT public room.

ava_california: I am starting to think an Alternative Lifestyle room might be more
viable. It is wrong to ignore people who are still closeted.

danigrrl: Being LGBT doesn't mean you're out of the closet though. That's why rooms like this one are needed. Many of those who are very outspoken about their sexuality on WC are not out to their friends and family.

That being said, I would support an Alternative Lifestyle room. I do not, however, believe it's a replacement for a LGBT room as the two are not the same.

Meese: where did language come into this? both of those mods are using that as an example to say that yes there is semi specific rooms like s3xy and canadian, but really, why all the labels? the reason i sparked up on this to begin with was that the creater of this club is pushing for it, and it goes back to the female only room. yes, i can understand that at times the males on this site are ridiculous pigs and disgusting, and you are offering that room for w.e safety reasons, comfort reasons, curiosity reasons, the list goes on, but chat options are available? you can turn them off, turn them to friends, or bear with closing one or two once in a while. i dont see how the creator of this club, who ejected males, solely based on the fact that they were male, as indicated above, even if they were friends, can push for this sort of equality, i just find it hard to beleive? if that makes sense, how seclusion and acceptance can go hand in hand, feel free to delete this post or block me if i am saying "too much"

danigrrl: The language thing came into this because it seems the issue is being downplayed. A LGBT room would have be of a much greater importance than a language room so such a comparison shouldn't even be happening. This club has nothing to do with the female only room. I'm not pushing for a Lesbian Room. I'm hoping WC will consider a LGBT room for all queers and their allies. When I create female only rooms it's because the females who choose to enter want a place to be among other females exclusively. There are many straight women who visit those rooms as well. The truth is many women do not feel comfortable talking about certain issues in front of males. They should be able to have an area where they can talk amongst themselves. The disclaimer's there. I wouldn't object to a male only room. I don't understand why it's "hard to believe." Can I not want be in two rooms at the same time? Can I not choose to be in a room where I can talk openly with other women about issues I only feel comfortable talking to other women about while being in a room with individuals of the LGBT community and their supporters who understand qy@z& struggles?

On a side note, I would never block someone or delete a post just because I don't agree with it. You haven't been rude and at least you're sparking conversation.

the real slim DEEPy: i would think that an alternative lifestyle room would be more suitable. it seems that it would be less attractive to trolls/bullies just due to the less specific name. I support a lgbt room, i just dont see how to keep a public room by that name modded 24/7.

Wireclub doesnt have enough mods to cover every room all the time, and would probably have to appoint several mods from within this new room, mods that are actually going to be in the room almost 24/7. Wireclub doesnt seem to trust many with mod status, so i doubt they will go to the trouble to create a lgbt room specifically by that name.

An alternative lifestyle room would incorporate lgbt with fetishists, who are more often than not bdsm'ers- most of which are bi themselves. theres not that manny foot, scat, baby or other fetishists around, really, and even if there were, they would be accepting of lgbt'ers anyway, i would think. these fringe fetishists would be used to being made fun of, so they should sympathize with the plight of lgbt'ers.

winterOfdiscontent: I also support the idea of a public room directed to a LGBT interest, with a moderator kicking agressive homophobic content.
There is a public room called no english room or something like that, for brain's sake. And it's always empty, what was the use in making that? Now if that room exists I see no reason why a LGBT room shouldnt. In fact I find it discriminatory that there isn't one and that wire's response to it is "make your own room".
I have found myself many times with the interest of entering a gay room and every time, there was none available.
Whatever yadah yadah I go for it.

the real slim DEEPy: a pedephile or cousin kisser could also claim discrimination for not having public rooms dedicated to these causes. think about the big picture and realize that the discrimination logic would lead to millions of public rooms, and wireclub just doesnt have the resources for that. its just not feasable or possible to set up a public room for every concievable type of person. perhaps if we were just limited to one big room on woreclub, no one would be able to claim discrimination. i dont see how an alternative lifestyle room wouldnt be an acceptable alternative, it would be less specific and less discriminitory to create a room that is open to a slightly wider range of people types.

danigrrl: deep, if it's a matter of wording, let them call it an alternative lifestyle room. I would just hope there'd be some kind of disclaimer that hinted towards LGBT acceptance so that people would know to direct themselves there. But it really is a different issue than what you're describing. The room, hopefully, would not be a place for people to talk about sexual fetishes. There's enough Sexy/H#$~y rooms for that already. I know that would happen (especially with like-minded people in the room) but hopefully that talk would be saved for private messages.

the real slim DEEPy: if you can find a way to keep it modded, then it would be fine to call it the lgbt room, but thats a hard task, since only admin can designate mods of public rooms.

perhaps it could be called "alternative lifestyles" with the explaination- to talk about issues, not to cyber- Keep it clean.

or you could use a code word like "rainbow room" or something that only lgbt'ers would recognize.

danigrrl: People have really been using some poor examples around here. Wireclub would not open a room in support of sexual molesters or those who engage in incest. In the modern world, qw$y# acceptance is politically correct. It shouldn't come as a shock if WC was to open a LGBT public room. As mentioned before, most chat sites already have one. As a Canadian site, you would think WC would be more open to the idea of such a room. If more people were to ask for public rooms, I don't think that would be such a bad thing. WC has few and not many get a lot of traffic. A LGBT room, or LGBTQIA room even, would incompass many people. An alternative lifestyle room would incorporate something completely different. That could lead to even more trolling. Just because people are LGBT, that does not mean they accept, for example, incestual or polygimist relationships.

the real slim DEEPy: i only used those examples because someone shouted "discrimination".

i think an lgbt room is a good idea, if properly implimented, and should be requested and encouraged, but DEMANDING it on grounds of discrimination is a little selfish, if you dont consider how many other groups could make the same claim of discrimination.