the doors vs the beatles vs the who
Taliesyn: It's not a fair comparison. The greatest strength of the Doors are the lyrics of their songs. The music is usually pretty simple. For The Beatles, I would say that both the lyrics and the music are absolute top quality. It's the only band I know that has no boring songs. The Who's music is also amazing, but it's a rather different style. What I found disappointing is that I didn't especially like any of their later work (after Tommy). In fact, my favorite album is their very first one. All of the songs on that album that were written by Pete Townshend are most excellent. The only two weak songs on the album are cover versions of other people's songs done by The Who. I have no idea why they put them there. The album would have been so much better if they just wrote a couple extra songs on their own.
deoraide: For the most part Taliesyn I agree with you. I don't agree that the Beatle lyrics were always top quality - She loves you ya ya ya??. I find many of them were quite simple and nursery-rhymish. There are exceptions of course. Eleanor Rigby is always one of my favourite songs. I preferred the Beatle members when they went their separate ways to be honest. But then that is what makes music so enjoyable - everybody has his or her own favourite. Some of the modern bands to me are as good as the old ones. Stereophonics, Coldplay, Killers, Bon Jovi, Snow Patrol - these can compete with any - but will they stand the test of time like the older guys. That is the question.
Taliesyn: OK, Deoraide, you got me there. Some of The Beatles' earlier lyrics are indeed pretty simple. Although with "She Loves You", I think there is more to it than just the catchy tune. For one thing, the lyrics may be simple, but they are very honest and sincere, and not cheesy at all. But of course, on their later albums, the lyrics become much more interesting. ("Savoy Truffle" might be my favorite.)
Speaking of interesting lyrics, have you (and the other people on this forum) heard "Alice's Restaurant Massacree" by Arlo Guthrie? A friend of mine introduced me to this song about half a year ago, and I've been trying to promote public awareness of the song ever since then. (It is already very popular in some places, but I think many more people should hear it.) If you decide to check it out, make sure to get the original 1967 version. The song is long (over 18 minutes), but it is definitely worth listening to. (Unless you are so conservative that you think Vietnam war was a good idea, in which case you will probably hate the song.)
Unfortunately, I am not very familiar with modern bands, although there are some songs by Arcade Fire, Coldplay, Cake, System of a Down (just a few random names that come to mind) that I really like. However, sometimes I feel like no truly original ideas in rock music have been discovered after those that came from Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. (If people read these posts often, I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this comment. Bring it on! )
deoraide: I like Arlo Guthrie very much but I must say I dont know this song. Must check utube later - maybe somebody has it there. I am a pacifist -so I guess the theme wont bother me at all. Of the bands you mention -Pink Floyd would be my favourite. Top of my list will always be Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. No competition.
Taliesyn: Yes, definitely you'll love "Alice's restaurant" in this case... but I think that the only version on YouTube is a much more recent one (also performed by Guthrie, but his voice isn't as good as it used to be). On the other hand, iTunes does have the original, and it is also possible to purchase the album "Alice's Restaurant" from places like Amazon.com
4degreeshigher: The Beatles!
And I mean "you think the people would have enough of silly love songs! I look around me and I see it isn't so!"
Although when they went their separate ways not too much except for Lennon; "How Do You Sleep" was the shit!
Strawberry Fields forever!!!!!!