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bpatter789 I was reading about M-M experiment
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danosdrake Essentially one source of light shines a beam through a glass that is half silver. This splits the beam into two parts where one part goes through the glass and the other reflects off. The now two distinct beams are then reflected off additional mirrors
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danosdrake equidistant from the first glass
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danosdrake If there is an absolute frame ether, then when we move through it, there should be some wind
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danosdrake This should cause light to move at different speeds when shined in different directions
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bpatter789 Is there any evidence that such a thing as Aether exists? If so, how is it defined?
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danosdrake The two distinct beams, after moving through a proposed ether wind, are then brought back together. If one of the beams is moving at a different speed than the other then there should be some interference pattern that is different from when the light beam
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danosdrake is placed at different angles
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danosdrake It’s just some medium that light would move through. Waves typically only exist because some medium exists that they can move through is there. After this experiment, it was shown that there is no medium for light to move through and that light propagates
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danosdrake on its own
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MissInformation_ I forgot to mention that Bifur is a mod too
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danosdrake If the ether existed, this experiment would have picked it up. It didn’t pick it up, therefore it doesn’t exist
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danosdrake Here patter sal explains it excellently in this video: YouTube
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bpatter789 DANO.......I was coming to that point (it doesn't exist)
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MissInformation_ Nice drawing
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bpatter789 Aether or Ether reminds me of Phlogiston -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Morley_experiment
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bpatter789 Which many early scientists thought existed
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danosdrake Nice I didn’t know about that patter
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danosdrake I think my misunderstanding of the Michelson Morley experiment is cleared up but I want to ask someone else to make sure
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bpatter789 MISS....why would I think I got the NY Kiss from you?
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bpatter789 The badges tell you who you got them from
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bpatter789 There is another old theory, long discounted, concerning a kind of jelly necessary for life....I can't remember what it was called. It was thought to be in an ooze at bottom of oceans
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bpatter789 Maybe Daft will know
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daftbubbareturns well, I never let go of the basic idea of the aether, when we were expunge it from out thinking along with phlogiston
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daftbubbareturns I fianlly got a bit of vindication in the 90's: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories Sometimes the fundamental idea is good, but it might need some modern tweaking. Consider the quantum vacuum and
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daftbubbareturns Bob Laughlin
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danosdrake Daft in the Michelson experiment, the two light beams that interfere together should move at different speeds if there were an ether, right? According to most modern day scientists
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daftbubbareturns that was the expectation of just about all physicists
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MissInformation_ BP: because some badges are secret, and I thought you thought I gave it to you, because you gave me a kiss badge
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MissInformation_ I mean it's not aways revealed who gave it to you
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MissInformation_ I tried to watch the aether video
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MissInformation_ But I didn't understand anything because it was in English
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daftbubbareturns YouTube This is nice because it tries to explain the experiment in terms of the day
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bpatter789 "Bathybius haeckelii was a substance that British biologist Thomas Henry Huxley discovered and initially believed to be a form of primordial matter, a source of all organic life. He later admitted his mistake when it proved to be just the product of an ino
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danosdrake Okay so my question is, how would the interference pattern be different when viewed from different angles? I don’t see how the different speeds would affect that
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bpatter789 the product of an inorganic chemical process (precipitation).
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daftbubbareturns I vaguely remember learning about the jelly
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daftbubbareturns (that it was once proposed as some sort of primordial jelly
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bpatter789 MISS.....I gave myself the kiss badge
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bpatter789 I got the REAL Kiss Badge from kittylicious2012, Daft's friend
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bpatter789 Telescope Woman
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daftbubbareturns she has really made a mess out of McCubus
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bpatter789 LOL....she doesn't deserve all the blame
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daftbubbareturns of course not. That man could not think straight or sanelt around her
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MissInformation_ Is Kittylicious a real woman?
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MissInformation_ There are some transsexuals in these rooms
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MissInformation_ Sierra is a transsexual
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MissInformation_ What did she do to Cubus ?
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daftbubbareturns one day her aim will be off, so I try to move away from where he's sitting when he beats his chest
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bpatter789 Kitty has the key to McCub's hormone switch
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MissInformation_ It's damned right someone is trollng Cubus
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MissInformation_ Cubus is annoying
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MissInformation_ Whining and nagging all the time
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daftbubbareturns as if we don't
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bpatter789 He's a nice guy, just not very bright
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danosdrake Okay now I really think I understand the Michelson Morley experiment
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bpatter789 I've only nagged and whined about two things today
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daftbubbareturns I've refrained so far, to the best of my recollection
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bpatter789 I hate being pushy, so I will hold off on other suggestions for now
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daftbubbareturns yeah, it's close to her bedtime
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bpatter789 like doing a better presentation of the rules...good English, eliminate unnecessary stuff.
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daftbubbareturns I agree with that. That's one of the things really hampering jooe's projects
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bpatter789 Her senior consiglieri should be detailed to draft a newer, more comprehensive, rulebook
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daftbubbareturns yes, the Eastern European connection
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bpatter789 I think I should copy these good ideas and put them in an IM to her, else they might be lost
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daftbubbareturns ok, while I go forage for food
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bpatter789 Darn....can't send her a pm or im without friending, so that's out.
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bpatter789 I did save the text'
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bpatter789 well.....
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danosdrake In the Michelson experiment, the two beams of light are coherent when they meet at the middle reflector, right
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