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lori100
lori100: ...from my post^^^^ -----Wikipedia-----Project Oilsand, also known as Project Oilsands, and originally known as Project Cauldron, was a 1958 proposal to exploit the Athabasca Oil Sands in Alberta via the underground detonation of up to 100 nuclear explosives;[1] hypothetically, the heat and pressure created by an underground detonation would boil the bitumen deposits, reducing their viscosity to the point that standard oilfield techniques could be used.

Project Cauldron was suggested by L.M. Natland, a geologist working for Richfield Oil, in response to American efforts to find peaceful uses for atomic energy. An investigative committee was formed with the support of Alberta's Social Credit government. One of the committee's early recommendations was that, in order to minimize public fears, a "less effervescent name"[2] should be used; Project Cauldron was subsequently renamed Project Oilsand.
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lori100
lori100: report to the Independent Committee for Atmospheric Sciences (ICAS) by Homer E. Newell – Associate administrator for Space Science and Applications, NASA, Washington, DC.
In 1966, a report from NASA to ICAS (Independaent Committee for Atmospheric Sciences of the National Academy of Sciences, NAS) was the first step in establishing a national Weather modification program that would ultimately involve multiple federal agencies. The report focused on four initial agencies: ESSA, NSF, NASA, and the Dept. of Interior’s Bureau of Reclamation.------------------------------------------------------------------In his 2011 book, Here on Earth: A Natural History of the Planet, scientist and author, Tim Flannery reminds us that proposals to melt the Icecaps were advanced after World War II by reputable figures including the first director-general of UNESCO (Julian Huxley-1946), by a top official at the U.S. Weather Bureau, and by a Russian oil engineer Petr Mikhailovich Borisov. Scientific conferences debated the merits, while mining and energy corporations contemplated the use of nuclear detonations in the extraction of coal and oil.
Reputable figures in the international community saw a opportunity to detonate nuclear weapons as a novel and constructive way to geoengineer the Arctic. The prevailing rationale to justify this insanity included: (1) The arctic is nearly too cold to be habitable by humans (2) The polar ice cap blocks valuable shipping lanes. (3) The expanses of frigid water up North contributes to uncomfortably cold winters in many countries. (4) it’s difficult for oil companies to drill through ice.
The idea was publicly floated as a “peaceful use” of atomic weapons.-----------------------------------------------------------------------Thirty years following the creation of the Nation Program in Weather Modification, the US Air Force published a document (“Owning The Weather in 2025” ) establishing that federal agencies involved in the National Weather Modification program are under tacit direction of the Department of Defense.
--Opening Statement: Current technologies that will mature over the next 30 years will offer anyone who has the necessary resources the ability to modify weather patterns and their corresponding effects, at least on the local scale. Current demographic, economic, and environmental trends will create global stresses that provide the impetus necessary for many countries or groups to turn this weather-modification ability into a capability.
In the United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels. These levels could include unilateral actions, participation in a security framework such as NATO, membership in an international organization such as the UN, or participation in a coalition. Assuming that in 2025 our national security strategy includes weather-modification, its use in our national military strategy will naturally follow. Besides the significant benefits an operational capability would provide, another motivation to pursue weather-modification is to deter and counter potential adversaries.------------------------------------------------Borisov’s idea requires construction of a dam across the Bering Strait. Source: P.M. Borisov, “Can we Control the Arctic Climate?”, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March, 1969, pp. 43-48.
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Corwin
Corwin: I'm sure that chemtrailplanet.com is a very reliable source of information... and the next time I need reliable updates on Bigfoot sightings that will be the first place I look.
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Serabi
Serabi:

I do not have the time nor inclination to read and watch everything discussed above. Our planet is a living, changing entity. We are so conceited to think we can control the earth and her changes... we can influence it to an extent, but we are only here for a short while and with even shorter tunnel vision.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: "Here on Earth: A Natural History of the Planet" - By Tim Flannery. Hardcover, 288 pages, published April 5th 2011 by Atlantic Monthly Press. This book mentions Russian Oil engineer, P.M. Borisov’s Proposed Method of Melting the Arctic Icecap.

Borisov’s idea: If the Arctic ice is once melted much less of the sun’s radiation will be reflected out into space and therefore the arctic ice cap will not re-form. An ice-free Arctic Ocean would be a great boon to oceanic shipping, especially between Europe and East Asia. Much land in northern Canada and Siberia would be freed of permafrost and made suitable for agriculture. Borisov believed that an ice-free Arctic Ocean would lead to increased evaporation of water and hence increased rainfall worldwide, including the region of Sahara Desert leading to grass growing there. Borisov considers all of the impacts of the melting of the Arctic ice cap to be beneficial. He asserts that the melting of the Greenland ice cap would raise sea levels at a rate of only 1.5 to 2 mm per year.

If the book is to be believed, this scheme was taken seriously by Soviet climatologists. Two conferences were held in Leningrad in the early 1960′s following an initial meeting in Moscow by the Presidium of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 1959.
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janetmorgan937
janetmorgan937: Bank's Log needed
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Metaverseguy
Metaverseguy: I've heard geologists claim that we are overdue for an ice age, overdue for a gigantic earthquake along a fault line here, overdue for local flooding, and since they can't give dates it doesn't surprise me that so many people are mistrustful. I've even heard people claim that global warming will lead to mass extinction. If the developing countries of the world did nothing for green energy over the last 50 years nothing would have been different. They are conspiracy theorists waving around a red flag and screaming Armageddon and getting an audience.
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Corwin
Corwin: Ignoring the evidence does not make it go away.
The globe IS warming, the ice caps ARE melting, the sea levels ARE rising. Increased thermal energy in the atmosphere causes an increase of weather activity... hurricane activity IS more frequent and more fierce.

And it's not "Armageddon" that the scientists are predicting, they are predicting a rise in sea levels and increased weather activity. Not the end of the world by a long shot, but not good news for coastal cities, and a good portion of the Earth's population lives along the coast.
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DawnGurl
DawnGurl: Im very close to the shore but hey...might be really cool if I could just jump off my back porch straight into the ocean and go swimming. Three Cheers for Global Warming!
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Antarctic sea ice has just hit a record high.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Any link there ?
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Information on Antarctic sea ice is easy to find but here's three links to get you started:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29312320

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/WorldOfChange/sea_ice_south.php

http://www.rtcc.org/2014/09/22/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-record-high-as-arctic-hits-2014-minimum/
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Orcus_
Orcus_: For those who actually think that global warming ( climate change , sound bite ) is not man made, please read the IPCC report , please read the methodology being used to arrive to their conclusion , then read the so called skeptics ( usually funded by your local chevron etc ) than read their methodology they used to come to their very biased conclusion , after you have done that one compares the skeptics and the 98 % of the other climatologists , when you have done so , i know the IPCC is quite technical , but one can, with little science background , read it and understand it . In my case i have a lot of science back ground . After you have all done that and disregard the corporate media , especially Fox , you will end up with a conclusion . It is like , evolution , nicotine , you are fighting and fighting and the evidence is there , it is a fact . If you ( the you here is a pronoun referring to those who doubt global warming ) please , state it , and disprove the scientists , with science, not with Bill O'reilly or whatever he is called , and when you disprove the science please list your resource , your methodology and where your paper has been peer reviewed .
Alas, no one will ever do it , when asked specific question , people tend to become defensive because they don't want to be wrong .
oh by the way , we are at the threshold , so i hope that those who consistently deny the fact are being caught up in those extreme weather conditions ,
ah , but wait , it is ok , you can always pray for rain , like one of the governors did in Texas , to pray for rain , yup that really worked, it got hotter, oh well , good luck to us all
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Aura
Aura:
One of the scientists who thinks climate change is not man made is Wei-Hock Soon (known as Willie), of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. Soon claims that variations in the sun’s energy are likely to blame for global warming, making him an oft-invoked source among conservatives and other climate denying groups. It turns out that he has been paid over $1.2 million by the fossil fuel industry to have these views. He has also failed to disclose the conflict of interest in the majority of his scientific articles, according to the New York Times.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Lol lets cut the bullshit- both sides have people being "paid off"- a quick example is Al Gore- he is a key member of Generation Investment Management, a company that is the most prominent name in carbon credits- a system that collects money with no oversight that it actually goes to help the environment or that the people or business's you direct your money towards actually receives them.
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Klaeidoscopes Ghetto
Klaeidoscopes Ghetto: Yes and Willy Wonka gave the chocolate factory to the old man and poor kid lol
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: If we pesky humans are to blame for all this global warming on earth, how come Mars appears to be coming out of an ice age, just like this planet. NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter suggested just this thing might be happening, in 2003. Are we to believe that Matian bugs, driving around in their SUVs, are the cause, or might the sun have something to do with it?
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alpossmar82
alpossmar82: A positive movement, I watched by cgi/video how the Artic breaking up is tracing out glaciers (unknown cause). Imagine the rate in Antartica a lot colder, could humans also reverse to an ice age?
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: The earth heading for a 'mini ice age' within 15 years according to scientists. Solar researchers at the University of Northumbria have created a new model of the sun's activity which they claim produces "unprecedentedly accurate predictions". They say fluid movements within the sun, which are thought to create 11-year cycles in the weather, will converge in such a way that temperatures will fall dramatically in the 2030s. Solar activity will fall by 60 per cent as two waves of fluid "effectively cancel each other out", according to Prof Valentina Zharkova. In a presentation to the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno, she said the result would be similar to freezing conditions of the late 17th century.
[ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11733369/Earth-heading-for-mini-ice-age-within-15-years.html ]
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LiptonCambell
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lori100
lori100: Geo-loving feldspar jockeys!
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I see the year 2013 was a great year for polar bears. In that year the Arctic ice pack dramatically expanded by 40%, thanks to cooler than expected temperatures. Three years ago Professor Peter Wadhams of Cambridge University, England. forecasted that the Arctic would be ice free by 2015, or 2016 at the latest.

Remember that old twit Al Gore? Rather puts his prediction that the caps would disappear by 2014 out to grass. Nasa reports that sea ice at the Antarctic is at its greatest extent since records began in 1979.

How many years do you think it will be before the great and the good are begging us all to burn carbon, to save the planet?
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Corwin
Corwin: The term "global warming" refers to the mean temperature of the ENTIRE GLOBE... NOT the temperature of any one particular spot on the globe.

The Earth is warming. This is a FACT. We are constantly taking the Earth's temperature, and this year (surprise surprise) it's warmer yet than it was last year.

I always facepalm when I hear someone say "Man, it's been a cold Winter this year. So much for 'global warming' ".

NASA made that report about the Antarctic ice sheet two weeks after a report that the Arctic ice sheet was at a record minimum. But those reports reflect more on changes in atmospheric circulation, and have no bearing on the fact that the Earth's "mean global temperature" is at a record high... breaking last year's record as the mercury slowly and steadily rises.

But the majority of climatologists say that it will take hundreds of years for the caps to melt, so the coastal cities are safe for the time being.
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