Do you believe in Aliens? (Page 2)
Is the number of posts indicative of the validity of the premise of the thread?
LiptonCambell: More likely indicative of an inflammatory thread...I mean, how many posts did that abortion thread get?
I once started a thread just with a period (otherwise known as a "full stop." )
It got pages and pages of hits for months.
hellbhoy: If there is intelligent life out there,they'd deffo avoid the Earth at all costs.
Why come to a planet to be captured,dissected and may give the elite of the Earth a way to start a war of worlds for the terrestrials resources on their planet for profit on Earth ?.
Alien says "WE COME IN PEACE".
USA says "LINKED TO AL QAEDA".
"Nobody can explain the building of the Pyramids to my satisfaction"
So you make a huge leap of faith that it's "ancient aliens"? Why not make the huge leap of faith that it was an army of super-strength Yetis? Or magic fairies? Or anything else for which there is no evidence?
"where did the extensive knowledge on the stars and constalations come from?"
There was no "extensive knowledge on the stars" until telescopes were built. Conceiving constellations requires nothing but the human eye, memory and imagination.
The voluminous remainder of your post amounts to fanciful, vague descriptions that require a HUGE leap of faith to see as an indication of "ancient aliens."
David Hatcher Childress (born 1957) is an American author and publisher of books on topics on alternative history and historical revisionism. His works cover such subjects as pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact, Atlantis, Lemuria, Ancient Astronauts, UFOs, Nikola Tesla, the Knights Templar, lost cities and vimana aircraft. Childress claims no academic credentials as a professional archaeologist nor in any other scientific field of study, having left the University of Montana after one year to travel the world to personally research the subjects about which he would later write.
And you place your faith in some hack writer like him?
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hellbhoy: HEY SITS ! how ya doing har har.
SERABI I read your posting ?,Did the aliens help you type all that jeezos man.
Many things in the past are just plain weird to understand and does not mean that there was an extra terrestrial influence.As for the pyramids this GUY in a national geographic program has just about solved the lot on the pyramids ... National Geographic - Unlocking The Great Pyramid (2009).
Has all sorts of investigative approaches on the pyramid building with other scholars agreeing except the Egyptologists societies that want to feed the unexplained department for tourism.
Isn't it a little bit suspect on the arrival of jet engines in the early 1940's we get sightings of UFO's,and isn't it a little toooo convenient after some nutter says they had seen something that was out of the ordinary and say it must have come from outer space.That the government to feed the idea to deflect the focus on that ?.
The only aliens are illegal ones in your country working for less money than you or I ever will.
Azimuth_Predator: I personally think that possibilities for some kind of living organism are very large.
3-5klm down on the earths ocean there are volcanic vents which make temperatures very high and lets not forget about hydrostatic pressures.
Sunlight and air are not necessary for microbes to live down there.
And lets not forget how many planets are out there.
I am not talking only about the ones that belong to stars systems in the milky way, i mean all galaxies!
So we are talking about numbers that wont even fit this thread lol
I am sure there is something out there, the cosmos is just that big(endless), that we might never find anything which does not mean life does not exist.
Who can guarantee that there is no planet that has the right(safe distance from a star in order to have life? Or what about H2O which is perfect for life creation!
It does not have to be intelligent life form. It can be something like microbes.
And why not primitive life forms? And yes even intelligent. How far away have we gotten when it comes to searching?
There is something out there, cause we are tiny mosquito crap floating on the pacific ocean(even smaller than mosquito crap) lol
hellbhoy: Azimuth I agree dude,if the Earth in our galaxy can sustain life then if every galaxy sustained a life form then there wouldn't be enough to the power offs to fit on an A4 piece of paper.
Life doesn't have to contain 4 proteins,carbon and H2o to give rise to life.
Until there is proof then it is just an idea or theory that it could.
"I personally think that possibilities for some kind of living organism are very large ... [followed by his reasons for thinking so] ... There is something out there ..."
It's good that you (at first) used the term "possibilities."
The vastness and complexity of the universe certainly suggests a possibility of extra-terrestrial life.
However, a suggestion does not constitute evidence. We simply don't know one way or the other. Without actual evidence, we simply don't know.
Hey hellboy !
Azimuth_Predator: Sixties dude, first i was being subjective and i said about the large possibilities.
Then i was more objective and i said that there is something out there (living organisms) and thats cause we are so small(mosquito crap in the middle of pacific ocean x ? lol)
So what i am trying to say is that we might never have the evidence you are looking for.
There is going to be an attempt in some years from now though. But it will take years till we get some answers.
I think we should all be optimistic about the operation.
LiptonCambell: I think we should continue searching, yes, but I don't think we should fall into the mistake of judging the universe for what we wish to see. Every single evidence we have found about the universe is it is entirely inhospitable and outright hostile to every form of life we have ever discovered. Take the best example of an extremophile and send it to anywhere in the universe, and not only will it almost instantly die, but just before that point, it will also become impotent, and bathed in radiation. The simple fact is, believing alien life exists is believing millions of scientists and careful meticulous observations over hundreds of years are wrong- because you FEEL they are wrong.
Its faith, nothing more.
I absolutely think we should strive to be proven wrong in that respect, and who knows- we might not be proven wrong for thousands of generations from now, if ever. And frankly, if in the year 6767, when we find another life-form out there, I'd rather future generations know that we didn't blindly ignore our own observations, and made the correct conclusion with the correct data.
That, as far as we know, we are the only life in the universe.
Really, the best way to solve this problem isn't to look carefully at all the stars- its to understand where WE came from- how inanimate objects suddenly and irrationally sprung to life- and look for clues of it happening elsewhere. Without that key, we're just blindly stumbling in the dark.
"There is going to be an attempt in some years from now though. But it will take years till we get some answers."
There are already attempts underway to find evidence of extra-terrestrial life, intelligent or otherwise. What do you think those various probes we've sent to Mars have been doing up there, just making photos for postcards? As I type this, the Mars Science Laboratory is on its way to Mars.
While it won't specfically be looking for signs of life, it will be tasked to look for evidence to determine whether or not Mars has ever been an environment that was able to support life. One step at a time ...
And perhaps you've not heard of SETI.
We have been scouring the skies for radio signatures of intelligent life for years.
"I think we should all be optimistic about the operation."
Taking your words for face value, I must disagree. Optimism is the wrong attitude.
the tendency to believe, expect, or hope that things will turn out well
Rather than optimism, I think our search for other life calls for objectivity, and enthusiasm. We should be objectively willing to accept what we find (or don't find), regardless of what it is. And we should enthusiastically conduct this search. These projects to search for life are absolutely worthwhile. I can think of no intellectual and scientific pursuit more important than to try to determine if we are alone or not.
Azimuth_Predator: Its funny how you copy paste and use wiki for everything lol
I am aware of what i say i don't have alzheimer(wiki that one) lol
There is another operation we are preparing and its waaaaay further than mars. (now you can use wiki again with out copy paste)
As for SETI, yes i am aware and that would be good for intelligent life forms who know how to use radio magnetic waves as well as having a receiver.(use wiki for that as well)
So i will still use the word optimistic thank you very much. And you should not only think of intelligent life forms as aliens.
"Its funny how you copy paste and use wiki for everything lol"
Nice try, but the only thing in my previous post that was copy/pasted was your words, just as I'm doing here. I do that in order to make my replies as clear and unambiguous as possible. Yes, I use Wikipedia a lot. It's convenient to be able to provide a link that is clickable. If you find some fault with either of those two Wiki articles, then perhaps you can explain. Otherwise, it would seem that you're searching (unsuccessfully) for something to criticize.
"There is another operation we are preparing and its waaaaay further than mars. (now you can use wiki again with out copy paste) "
What ... am I supposed to do a Wiki search on "another operation we are preparing and its waaaaay further than mars"? Instead of providing just some vague, ambiguous reference to "another operation," perhaps you could provide some specific details, maybe even a link for further information.
" ... you should not only think of intelligent life forms as aliens."
If you're referring to other animal life here on Earth, such as chimps, dolphins, etc. then yes, they have intelligence. But I didn't think it was necessary to belabor the conversation with that when it's clearly outside of the gist of this conversation.
If you're referring to some other "intelligent" form of life here on Earth, then please enlighten us with details about that.
Nope. But you seem to be preoccupied with this "getting a room" thing.
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Azimuth_Predator: You are clearly stuck in the sixties.
And of course you are going to copy paste my words.
Why would you copy past your words? That would make no sense. It would look like
So yea my words of wisdom should be copy pasted from you cause you might learn something 60s man.
You have to hold my hand if you want to understand.
All you need is good vibrations and the Jingo.
And not all the leafs are brown but the sky is gray.
Ok i am willing to help cause there is this documentary which explains on what they are going to do and what they are hopping to find.
So basically 50% is science fiction and the other is Science fact.
The documentary is called Alien planet "full documentary". Just go to you tube don't google it.
As for the enlightenment i am happy to give one.
Dolphins and chimps are intelligent to a curtain degree.
You find me a Dolphin or a chimp than can create an electronic device such a transmitter which would send electromagnetic waves or a receiver that would
receive those waves. If you do then i am your slave for life. lol
I like how you tried to avoid that but you didn't.
Side note: Dolphin senses and vocalizations don't count. Cause i am talking about transformers,conductors,circuits and the works lol
Thats what kind of intelligent life form i am talking about if you want SETI to work
So when you see the documentary you will understand how far they are willing to go.
And you your self know that possibilities for organisms out there are ridiculously high.
No proof yet but i am optimistic based on those possibilities. Which i don't have to explain to you cause you know about elements and matter.
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