Something from Nothing, our Universe? (Page 9) the worst ever: Night sky with stars above makes hair of the universe...they make our universe more handsome and interesting. Zen Not Zen: I was thinking more locally -- as in tectonic plates (though we have no reason to believe, one way or the other, that our observations here on Earth are not applicable to many other planets making their way around many other distant stars.) A tectonic plate shifts and villages in Japan are gone an hour later. Families gone. People crying. At that point, for those people, the universe doesn't seem very "friendly" And we have no reason to believe tectonic plates are sentient -- so, back to my other ponderings: If we had a complete answer to how and what the universe is and how it got here, would be me any more comfortable with its indifference to us? I say this because I am reasonably satisfied with what we do know -- from popular scientific books like a Brief History of Time or The Elegant Universe. I'd love to have a better understanding of the various attempts to unify gravity with the other forces in nature. However, I suspect, that is not really the topic of this thread -- it sounds more like a "why" question. And "why" gets into the realm of belief. So, I tread lightly. the worst ever: Well...the point of "Why" lies again within our human nature...to prevail to conquer to tame...in this case, we are in a way against the nature, the planet. Trying to control some of enormously powerfull forces of the nature converting them into our benefits...we build devices to contain the water, we build tall houses to show off our architectural supremacy...we are trying to influence upon the athmosfere...etc. Why? Cause of our human nature...hardworking curiosity and defiance mixed with the knowledge from the books makes us proud, advanced and victorious yet great risk takers, with uncertain future.(in a way egoists cause of the future generations to come)...destruction of old ways of living and the rising force of intel-tech era combined with our hunger to consummate is pushing us further more into the abyss. There was a simple way of living, that used to be the vector of general respect for so many years ago...and than most of the people were happy...and I must admit more wiser than us today. Humans are just inhabitants in a sentence called "existing life on this planet". StuckInTheSixties: WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Do not go to that website. It's a trick! If you go to that website, it will automatically infect your computer with malware that will ruin your computer system! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Sorang: all existance are already preprogrammed: it has purpose and time to execute. atom, basic unit of nature element cell, basic unit of life provide us living material.... earth,air,water organism... battle of of survival... all things happened is to balance the universe......... maybe Nick_kciN: Something from nothing…. Absolute proof that human though has some way to go. I agree that nothing with potential can become something, but.. nothing with no potential… ….has never been witnessed. “and then there was light”, ...the void was noticed.(and quite possibly quantified) “and it was good…” (quantified with a smile) …How to see nothing… I wish you all a happy new year :-) Pahu: PokerMan: Now with that being said to go along with a) example. Since the possibility of a universe to come into existance without having a preceeding something, there is only one other way that the universe came into being. Does anyone know how the universe came to be since the probability of a universe coming into being without having a something to come frome is zero? Pahu: Before the universe existed there was nothing from which it appeared, which is impossible by any natural cause. Therefor the cause of the universe was supernatural, proving the existence of God. Unless and until evolutionists/atheists can conduct a repeatable experiment, verified by qualified scientists demonstrating that statement is untrue, their pronouncements must be regarded with the same respect as those of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The fact that the appearance of the universe from nothing has not been shown to be possible by any natural cause by real scientists shows that the evolutionists/atheists view is pie in the sky. http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138&Itemid=71 http://www.apologeticspress.ws/articles/1762 http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=137 http://www.existence-of-god.com/first-cause-argument.html http://www.existence-of-god.com/existence-of-god.html http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html rusty555: earth is a star ,having reached a mature stage in development and residual heat in its interior ,the water being formed from the oxygen produced by the star and the hydrogen remnants and in the future our sun will mature and the remaining entity will be a planet | Science Chat Room 2 People Chatting Similar Conversations |