who should address the many misguided actions of some 'muslims'? Iron Face: the duty to address this situation is neglected because you destroyed the caliph back in the day. if a group of hooligans destroys bars in Europe when they should be watching football who addresses the situation? the government. well we cant address it ourselfs we need government khalifa, a righteous khalifa which you opposed and destroyed back in the day.  R E B E C C A: hooligans destroying bars? The police deal with it....if you see that in England you ring 999, they ask which service you want u say police please....they put you through...n u say there's a group of hooligans destroying the bar, give them the address....a riot van arrives n takes them away. IF you or anyone else want to start policing the streets first you must undertake police training.....there you will learn the law of the land and how to deal with violent and aggressive criminals. the caliphate you speak of was dissolved and for good reason. There's absolutely nothing that would suggest that it brought about any order.....In fact, all the evidence points to oppression, turmoil and lots of conflict. Plus you don't make progress by going backwards. Even our human design is to go forwards not backwards. Dopenologist: Did you hear the joke about the guy who wanted to become a Muslim and was turned down by a Sunni Mosque because he was reading Muslim-Shia books? He had to go to a Shia Mosque to become a Muslim. Muslims needs 4 Caliph, one for the Sunni's, one for the Shia's, another for the Alawite's, and last but not least for the Druze. They actually have 4 Islamic courts representing these 4 islamic sects (No way? Go look at Lebanon, which is not even a Muslim country! Look at Syria. Morocco. Tunis.. what gives?). Muslims as a nation, which is something many among-them like to call UMMAH (which imo is another day-dream), never worked together ever since they started worshiping the man-made SECTS. I personally believe, hey need to burn ALL the books written by MEN claiming to explain the QURAN. Burn them all, now, if you want to guide the misguided. Fact, burn all books ever written about Bibles, Torah, Quran, claiming they can explain the alleged-word of GOD. Clearly, they are convinced, God just cant explain things. This is why I always LOL when i hear fools (aka islamophobes) saying MUSLIMS or ISLAM is going to RULE the WORLD. The Divided Muslims (Sunnia, Shia's, Alwaite's, Druze) are incapable of being united because they are driven by "loyalty / hatred / biased / dedication / insert_BS_term_here" based on sects, and you think they are going to take over the world? Go read a book. chay chayi: "Some" Muslims ?? its not "some", they are far more than some, there are over a billion Muslims, so 10% of them, that are radical, are not "some", they are about over 100 million, okay ??? so stop covering up Muslims true face, with your false lies, to propaganda Islam (Edited by chay chayi) chay chayi: Again There are over a billion Muslims, so 10% of them, that are radical, are not "some", they are about over 100 million chay chayi: Look, the world goes with God's control and plan, God makes that Muslims are killing themselves among themselves, so now they cannot propaganda against Jews and Israel, AND they are busy killing themselves, so they have no time to really stand up and organize themselves against Israel and the Jews in general, God makes it that they also are getting worse and worse against the entire world, to all non Muslims, and lately the burning and crushing the Jordanian pilot, so even those most hateful people that try to propaganda against Israel, and even standing with ISIS, are getting blackened and proven beasts and evil, even worse than Hitler, so all their propaganda they try to make and build up against Israel and the Jews, are disproven No worries, truth always won, and only truth wins, and only truth will win, and all lies will be proven lies R E B E C C A: well id agree they don't pose a threat as far as world domination goes.... since the ones who want that don't believe in education, they kinda piss on their own chips there.....Only the other week they executed three of their own women for being educated, one was a lawyer...so they aren't the brightest bulbs in the building are they..... I think that Isis and all the other extremists are being played left right and center by the western governments.....but when i see them lapping it up n rejoicing in the belief they are "taking over" I have little sympathy.....its like the beheading videos.....if they think the British government will be upset by those,they're fools....they couldn't pay for that kind of hate propaganda n these clowns are doing it for free! Another thing i find strange is the way that the catholic church has just retreated from europe without a fight.....after centuries of bloodthirsty control .....dunno i find that suspicious......If Christianity were trying to appeal to us as the good guys then Islam is doing more than enough to help promote the concept. All you can be sure of is no matter what they're doing, they aren't gonna be upfront or honest about it. I believe the world would be a nicer place if ALL religion ceased to be....the only reason i talk about islam more is because it is the one which is currently causing the most problems....But islamophobia?....Please....theres nothing irrational about disliking Islam.  Mooseknuckle: aren't you being a little ignorant by assuming those here discussing islam are uninformed on it ? Iron Face: no. i know they are uninformed because they are saying islam does not promote freedom and equality and the videos explain clearly what it promotes really R E B E C C A: No we dont we need you to practice your religion quietly by yourself and leave us well out of it....we'd almost rid our corner of the world from religion....n then you people bring it back  whyyy Mooseknuckle: iron , i lived as a woman under sharia law . explain to me what freedoms i had exactly ? list them . Iron Face: just because you lived in the middle east it doesnt mean you know Quran and Sunnah. they say reverts have a passion for learning wile born muslims lack in ilm. here watch this one too Mooseknuckle: you failed to answer the question . i will 100% watch your video as soon as you explain to me 100% of the rights i had as a woman living under islamic law . it should be simple , right ? give me ........... the top 10 rights i had that were SPECIAL from islam i was ' given ' as a gift . Mooseknuckle: if the answer is in the video . you will have no problem telling me in a shortened version since you watched it . Iron Face: Say ye: “We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them, and to Him have we submitted ourselves. 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