Proof That God Exists (Page 4)

chay chayi: But ALL words are made up, so anyone can make up any word as he pleases, except Hebrew is made by God

GeraldtheGnome: I'm literally not talking about anything on here. The Milky Way Galaxy, yet also all of the Cosmos is sometimes used, I've also seen where the Universe is referred to as all of the Cosmos, yet also it is referred to at other times as all of the Cosmos. How is that not interchangeable ? So, you are wrong that they aren't. Even you showed that it isn't so. I mentioned all systems used, not just the general ones. All of the Cosmos is expanding so yes, regardless of what is and isn't Latin there .

Of course there are amounts referred to that are either not used or rarely used, that is true and that is expected, if things don't go up to a certain amount though is debatable at the same stage. Apologize since I wasn't being sarcastic, I just mentioned instead that I don't think literally that certain numbers are used. What dies sex with numbers ? Yes sex can be overrated, but it'd be better than this Monk-like state I'm currently in. Yes Corvin's last message contained nothing that was made up and it wasn't rooted either (and to understand what I mean then see the Australian term for rooted) .

GeraldtheGnome: In a sense you are right Chazza that all words were made up, technically and you are also right about the other thing unfortunately. Hebrew being made by God though is something I disagree with no matter that only God may only possibly exist. There is no evidence after all for the existence of God and/or for that he ever existed.

Amen.

Corwin: From what I have been led to understand, the Hebrew language probably evolved from Sanskrit... which is OLDER THAN HEBREW... sorry Chafey.

GeraldtheGnome: Is Aramaic itself older than Hebrew, also is it what Hebrew originated from and wasn't Aramaic, not Hebrew that was used at the time that at least the Bulk of the stories of the Bible were set in ? Evolved ? Life forms evolved, not languages, unless this is yet another adaption of the word just like the now misused and overused word Terrorist.

GeraldtheGnome: Also, why am I not surprised that the apology hasn't appeared yet ?

Corwin: Seriously, Gerald??

Definition from Mirriam-Webster Dictionary:

Evolve - [verb] - to change or develop slowly
synonyms -- elaborate, develop, unfold, derive

Biological evolution is just one derivative of that word that has "evolved" over time. Everything evolves... languages evolve... technology evolves... political systems evolve... the Cosmos evolves... people's opinions evolve (well... maybe not in Wire forums ).

Seriously... am I the only frickin' person who comments in these forums who has had at least some semblance of a formal education??

GeraldtheGnome: A lot of new interpretations of any word are now added to Dictionaries therefore lessening the substance of what are now in Dictionaries, hence the adopted Dictionary meanings of what words like Evolved means. Evolved refers to life forms, nothing else in the either other than 'convenient' words is the exception to the rule, unless you want to be like those on reality TV where everything is suddenly a bloody so-called 'journey' or 'connection' . It's a bit like the 'SMS Culture' of no spaces. Semblance ? Going into the less common words now, also technically there are no comments on here either. Despite any false statements made by you there certainly are those on here that are educated. By all means though, please me with any misinformation you want to contribute to this Forum. In other words, just keep on doing what you are doing.

GeraldtheGnome: It still has nothing to do with if God does exist though.

Corwin: The word "evolve" was in common use for almost a hundred years before it had anything to do with biological evolution.
Perhaps you should write an angry letter to Darwin for misusing it the way he did.

ghostgeek: Let's get this straight, up to this moment in time there have been no verified prophets, just a bunch of malcontents claiming to be spreading the word of God. Also, there have been no "miracles" that couldn't have been due to natural phenomena. That leaves us with the existence of the universe to convince us that God exists. So, does anyone know of a scientist who claims to be able to explain the origin of everything without recourse to God?

Corwin: That depends what you mean by "origin".
Scientists and physicists can explain everything all the way back to the Big Bang... if you are referring to what was BEFORE the Big Bang, well, Science can't go there... the laws of Physics break down within a singularity, which means that no further deductions are possible.

I suppose one could attribute that instant of Creation to a God of some kind... it's as good an explanation as any... there's just no proof of that, nor can there be.

ghostgeek: Something got it going for sure, but what? God or something else? Even if you substitute "God" for the "something else" you are still left needing to explain the existence of the little chap. It would seem therefore that we are left with the "something else", if only to explain God.

Corwin: Quantum Physics has also wrestled with this issue... how our Universe could be so "fine-tuned" to function the way it does. Change one tiny parameter in the Laws of Physics and the whole thing breaks down.

But as Science doesn't entertain the notion of a God, it came up with Multiverse Theory... which implies that a near infinite number of universes are popping into existence all the time, but that most of them are not properly "tuned" and collapse back within themselves in a nano-second. This allows for the kind of huge numbers needed for "chance" to be attributed to our "fine-tuned" universe.

But of course, then we can ask ourselves "what or who is responsible for all of these near-infinite number of universes popping in and out of existence"..... and we are back to square one.

GeraldtheGnome: Evolve, properly refers to life, don't make excuses for you own misuses of the word. False Prophets were around and still are, there's no evidence of any Miracles from the Past and there isn't any now, though I wish for them. There's also no evidence that God does exist. I guess with that of the word origin that in one sense it can't be used because there will always be the case of what came before that and so on and so one. There is no evidence that God does or doesn't exist, also there's no evidence that he ever did exist and there's no evidence that God did or didn't create 'The Ball' as I like to put it.

Corwin: Gerald.... according to the encyclopedia, the word "evolve", (the dictionary meaning I posted earlier), has been in common use as early as 1775. Darwin didn't publish Origin of Species until 1859.

So, like I said... you can blame Darwin for misusing the word the way he did, or perhaps you can write an angry letter to the encyclopedias for publishing information that is not to your liking.
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Also, in regards to "something coming before" in reference to the Big Bang, keep in mind that "time" itself (as we understand it) didn't exist before then, so in that scenario the word "before" is meaningless.

GeraldtheGnome: Whatever you want to believe Corvin, I guess you assume that what you are doing on this Forum is a 'Journey' as well and that you have a 'Deep Connection' to it. There's also been and there always will remain so a case of meaning, even when it comes to what came before anything. The Big Bang was only the explosion and that of the aftermath shortly after it, not that of the physical presence of anything, so on that note you and many others are ring. Wrong in the same way that People think the Karma Sutra solely refers to Sex Positions. No it doesn't, in fact the Karma Sutra contained non-sexual things. The Tantric Sex section of the Karma Sutra is the only part of the Book, though quite a lot of Chapters of the Book, that is to do with Sex.

GeraldtheGnome: Also Darwin enhanced the Theory of Evolution, he was not the one that coined the word or that of the Principles of it, he just furthered it, that is all. It was Darwin's Theory of Evolution, not the first Theory of Evolution.

Corwin: That's spelled "Kama Sutra".... not "Karma Sutra".

And that doesn't change the fact that the word "evolve" has a broader definition that is not exclusive to biological evolution. This broader definition is not some new "misuse" of the word.

Corwin: Oh... and what makes you think that I consider my participation in this thread to be a "journey"... and that I have some kind of "deep connection" to it?

To be honest, I'm just killing time and poking fun at nitwits for laughs.

chay chayi: Atheists are the ones that don't know from where the universe came to exist, from what and where the big bang came from

chay chayi: Atheist are mentally ill
The physical existence came from beyond physics, when you deny the existence that is beyond physics, you become mentally ill, because you miss the cause of the mind, the non physical existence is the cause of the mind

chay chayi: There were intelligence normal smart wise people, way back, they were at the beginning of the creation, and God gave his truth to those people, to follow long side all generations till the end of the days, and straight normal healthy righteous Jews that received God's presence, delivered it through all generations till now, and its pure and simple by logic, and the non knowers, that don't know God, know that they are missing something, so the beginning of the history that God revealed himself and logic are in one line, and its proven to the health and emotion to the soul, human is not a dead physical specie on what scientists are busy on, humans have life and emotion and deeper consciousness of life, and deep spiritual existence, its all in one line of what the unknowers are missing, GOD REVEALED HIMSELF to prove his existence, now if you are ignorant and deluded, and you good the straight healthy normal way, is your own problem and damage

ghostgeek: That Moses chap has an awful lot to answer for. Not only has he been the cause of more bloodshed than anyone else in history, he's also got away with the biggest lie ever told for over three thousand years.

chay chayi: Moses was the greatest humble person ever, like God said about him, (God forced him to write it on himself) those millions of Israelites were not stupid and insane, and they knew the true one God from Jacob Issac and Abraham. Moses did not discover God, the Israelites were waiting the helper should come in the name of God, even Pharaoh's magic makers foretold Pharaoh that the helper will be born, Moses did not discover God, he only proved himself that he's the person sent by God to help the Israelites out of Egypt, he performed all the miracles and defeated the Egyptians and their magic, and their entire army