Easter 2014

duncan124
duncan124:
Easters passover starts with the full Moon and this year it is in eclipse.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/470435/Watch-live-coverage-of-the-first-total-lunar-eclipse-of-2014-The-Blood-Moon

http://www.almanac.com/content/when-easter

Mars is also at it closest and there appears to be more eclipses on the way.

Is this ominous or good news?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: It's good news if that's all you see; it's ominous if the shadow is being caused by a giant asteroid.
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duncan124
duncan124:
I think it is the shadow of the Earth.

The Moon turns red and it seems this is mentioned in the Bible and several websites want to exploit the connection.

"References to a moon like “blood” are found in two passages of the Bible.Joel 2:30–31says, “I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.” InRevelation 6:12, John describes one of the seal judgments of the Tribulation: “I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.” Other passages refer to the moon being “darkened” (Matthew 24:29;Joel 2:10).

A tetrad of lunar eclipses—and the timing of those eclipses in the Jewish calendar—is fairly unusual, but not unprecedented. So the fact of the eclipses, while interesting, is no proof that Jesus will return by 2015. Furthermore, John’s and Joel’s descriptions of the signs of the Day of the Lordcouldrefer to solar and lunar eclipses, but there are other possible explanations for those phenomena, such as changes in the atmosphere (mentioned inRevelation 6:12)."

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/blood-red-moon.html#ixzz2yz67Xk8n

Four ' Blood moons ' seems to be exceptional.

"During the 300-year interval from 1600 to 1900, there were no tetrads at all, according to NASA eclipse expert Fred Espenak. "

So perhaps they saw Blood Moons about the time of writing?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: It's the 100th second coming of Christ!

Seriously, has anyone realized it's impossible to have a solar and lunar eclipse simultaneously. As for falling stars - technically, they're not stars. It's called a meteor shower and yes, one does kinda look like a fig. Or fat cash, if you can locate it in one piece.

You know, the passages are supposed to make you think *spiritually* - some people have been praying hard for the Day of the Lord to appear because it's a GOOD thing. Why wouldn't it be?

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duncan124
duncan124:
The stars falling to earth is a reference to the change in temperate. They do actually do that sometimes in very bad weather in tropical places.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Whatever happens in the spiritual world will happen in the physical world: it's cause and effect.
Eventually, people got stupid and took everything literally, tossing the spiritual reality despite the Bible being a book about the Spirit.

Yes, you're right - it's a change in temperament of the people. There's always a sign.

"Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
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Zanjan
Zanjan: So, for the blood moon clusters. Notice how there's been a sudden rise in stabbing murders in the last couple days?

I've also noticed the dying of the virtuous Captain, going down with the ship - the last one on board. Now, he's the first off his sinking ship, leaving passengers in his trust to fend for themselves.
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duncan124
duncan124:
We can't all be winners.

Did you know that Bede in the 6th Century knew of the pagan Easter beliefs. That's not so long ago for religions. And perhaps that explains why its still called Easter.

The Russians used to have odd activities around Easter time which tailed in to their May holidays.

Did the American Christians cause the rise in price of the Easter Egg. Were they piqued by the chocolate and like Cameron wanted to be stern moralists?
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Zanjan
Zanjan: It's human nature to incorporate familiar culture in society with anything new - yet it can go both ways.

Ancient Christians saw nothing wrong with adapting the current, ritual tradition of celebrating spring to the concept of renewal of life in the resurrection, which occurred at the same time of year.

In this vein, sectarian society has adopted both Easter and Christmas as a time for celebration of both spring and winter. It's an excuse for gift-giving and excessive food and drink - forget the symbolism, they don't need it.

In practice, it's very difficult to untwist and separate local customs from a world religion.

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duncan124
duncan124:
But Easter was already a big event in the northern hemisphere. It is odd that the day Jesus rose from the tome was also important from the astrological and pagan points of view?

Some sort of one- up- man- ship?
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duncan124
duncan124:
Why is Good Friday called Good Friday? After all it is the day Jesus was crucified!
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Zanjan
Zanjan: We all die - it's the way Jesus died that made the difference.

It open people's eyes, woke them up. It brought them out of the graves of ignorance. Seeing real holiness of action against all odds, was a powerful revelation of who He was. This knowledge renewed spiritual life.

That was a good thing.

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duncan124
duncan124:
Never the less.

Traditional food for Good Friday indicates that the changes in the light and it they effected the storage of bread were very important ideas for northern Europeans.


Although the first name for these buns were Good Friday Buns or Cross Buns the earliest written instance of the name‘Hot Cross Buns’ comes from 1733 A.D. The name is recorded in a popular rhyme or ‘ditty’; it is also interesting because it includes the old reason and superstition for making the sign of the cross in baked goods:-
“Good Friday comes this month—the old woman runs
With one or two a-penny hot cross buns,
Whose virtue is, if you believe what’s said,
They’ll not grow mouldy like the common bread.”

http://recipewise.co.uk/the-history-of-the-hot-cross-bun

Clearly pagan ideas survived despite the Christians who appear to be hitching a ride on the festive events.

The word ' Good ' is obviously an alteration of an older, perhaps German , word or sentence.
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lori100
lori100: Wikipedia-----------The etymology of the term "good" in the context of Good Friday is contested. Some sources claim it is from the senses pious, holy of the word "good",[10] while others contend that it is a corruption of "God Friday".[11] The Oxford English Dictionary supports the first etymology, giving "of a day or season observed as holy by the church" as an archaic sense of good (good, adj. 8c), and providing examples of good tide meaning "Christmas" or "Shrove Tuesday", and Good Wednesday meaning the Wednesday in Holy Week.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: They should have stuck with "Holy" Friday, so people wouldn't need to ask.
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duncan124
duncan124:
I think it came from the Germans who sometime said English expressions which were tags and their accents caused the words to need redefining in English.

Words and expressions have always crossed and recrossed from England to German, often when the reasoning behind the event has become confused in publish accounts.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Meantime in other parts of Europe they were painting Easter Eggs and also hiding them about now for the children to look for later on.

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duncan124
duncan124:
Easter Sunday. The Big Day for the Church.


" And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they went in they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.

While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men stood by them in dazzling apparel.
And as they were frightened and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, “Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen. Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men and be crucified and on the third day rise.”
And they remembered his words, and returning from the tomb they told all these things to the eleven and to all the rest.

Now it was Mary Magdalene and Joanna and Mary the mother of James and the other women with them who told these things to the apostles, but these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them.

But Peter rose and ran to the tomb; stooping and looking in, he saw the linen cloths by themselves; and he went home marveling at what had happened."
Luke 24:1-12 (ESV)

Is n't this supposed to be more important then any other event the Christians celebrate?
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duncan124
duncan124:
Easter 2015 is here.

"TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE MOON: On Saturday morning, April 4th, the shadow of the Earth will fall across the Moon, turning the lunar disk a beautiful shade of celestial red. The total eclipse will be visible from the Americas, the Pacific Ocean, Australia, New Zealand and eastern parts of Asia."Spaceweather.

The new Worlds see an eclipse this year.
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duncan124
duncan124:

The Moon was always important in discovering the times of the year. Perhaps in the past the Moon had even more profound effect and it seems that religious leaders use a virtual moon to calculate the time of Easter.

" Today in Western Christianity, Easter is always celebrated on the Sunday immediately following the Paschal Full Moon date of the year. I had previously, and somewhat erroneously stated, "Easter is always celebrated on the Sunday immediately following the first full moon after the vernal (spring) equinox." This statement was true prior to 325 A.D.; however, over the course of history (beginning in 325 A.D. with the Council of Nicea), the Western Church decided to established a more standardized system for determining the date of Easter.

In actuality, the date of the Paschal Full Moon is determined from historical tables, and has no correspondence to lunar events.

As astronomers were able to approximate the dates of all the full moons in future years, the Western Christian Church used these calculations to establish a table of Ecclesiastical Full Moon dates. These dates would determine the Holy Days on the Ecclesiastical calendar."

http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/qt/whyeasterchange.htm

http://www.goddessgift.com/pandora%27s_box/easter-history.html
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