Atheists! Is this true ?? Rena787: Is it really true that most of the atheists deep deep deep down they know that there is God ? let's be honest  KrAsH: Do people who really believe in talking snakes and peodophile/prophets who have s~% with 9 year old girls really believe in god? Lets be honest!  kettle: Maybe a few atheists contemplate the possible existence of a god, but I think that most of them have already debated this issue thoroughly in their mind and made a decision once and for all. I actually have a feeling, however, that more theists doubt their faith and worship, because a surprising number of them eventually outgrow their belief to become agnostics and even atheists.  A_Prince: @krash Only brainwashed persons with blind hate and stereotypical personality who like to stay in their comfort zone of ignorance repeating outdated debunked stuffs without references would ask the questions you've just asked. Peace  SPIRIT-ONE: Krash said : Do people who really believe in talking snakes and peodophile/prophets who have s@* with 9 year old girls really believe in god? early believers were simpletons [much like todays church flocks] they believed what the Jackass with his collar on backwards [preacher] told them ,hook,line,and sinker,without question. everyone likes to dig dirt on religion ,here's a little spiritual food for thought that the Religions will never believe . Yahoshua [the true Messiah] lived a life much like many on this rock ,He ate ,Drank wine and hung out with less than honorable men at times ,He was unruly as a child ,He married and fathered children whom were disrespectful to Him . He Preached His Father's Message which isn't what the churches are [or ever have] preaching ,He was a Manly man that women wanted to be close to ,He was very handsome . Wasn't a pushover ,took no crap off of anyone ,especially those disrespecting His Father's Temple [called the Temple of Solomon at the time as King Solomon commissioned the building of it in honor of his heavenly Father whom he knew as 'YAHWEH!'] He beat the living crap out of the money changers . all attributed to the life ,death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus is a mere fable and nothing more ,study the laws of the time and you will see nothing could have happened as stated in the Bible ,I have studied the laws ,maybe I'll post my findings later for all to read and REBUT [if they can] Enjoy the Sabbath ,Knowledge is power ,seek and ye shall find . HALLELUYAH! TO ALL WHO SEEK THE 'TRUTH' THIS DAY . KrAsH: And if you believe in god in any shape or form your NOT an atheist.. But the question asked at the top of the thread was just asked to stir atheist. Robert_Paulson: Is it really true that most of the believers deep deep deep down they know that all they have is faith ? ? Faith, which is simply....hope and trust. It means believing something is true because you HOPE it is true. It is making that step to 'trust' something is true with absolutely NO evidence, and then grasping for anything that can be interpreted as evidence, such as coincidences or one's own feelings. Since there is no evidence of god (Allah/Jehovah/Thor/Zeus/Shiva) believers are supposed to have faith that one exists. Yet they would not use that same blind faith as a guide to reality in other aspects of their life; they would simply be called naive and irresponsible. lets be honest. A_Prince: krash You actually keep posting outdated stuffs, well if you're willing learn about Islam then read my post, if not and you're here just to attack Islam in a blind way then you can keep yourself in your comfort zone. Well, about Aysha issue: First of all a Pedophile is a term used to describe a person who has an obvious CONSTANT sexual tendency to children which is not applicable on Muhammad (pbuh). Secondly, to clear out this point more for you: 1- The age of Aysha when she was married to Muhammad (pbuh) is a matter of disputation between Muslim clerics, the majority of them agree that Aysha was 13 or 14 when Muhammad (pbuh) married her. 2- It’s stated in hadith books (Bukhari & Muslim) that Aysha was mature enough for marriage (she got Menstruation). 3- Considering the difference between world 1400 years ago and now, it is known that girls got mature at younger age in older times than now specially in hot places like the one Muhammad (pbuh) lived in. 4- The British law 100 years ago, for example, was allowing the marriage of girls with 10 YEAR OLD, go google it! 5- Also the American law was allowing it! 6- Mary (pbuh) was engaged to Joseph when she was 12 year old and she was pregnant with Jesus (pbuh) when she was 13, as the Bible stated. 7- The narrator who said that saying that Muhammad (pbuh) married Aysha when she was 6 year old is not a reliable narrator and he has a reputation that he has a weak memory specially he was 74 year old when he narrated that saying. 8- It was normal for these marriages to happen in old times, it's a matter of culture thing even for non Muslims. 9- You have to talk about what's happening now because of losing religion and living randomly without regulations, go check the rate of teen birth: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnancy What's worst, there are cases of birth for 5 and 6 year old mothers, go check: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers and this recent case: 10- A little test, go ask your grandfather how old was his mother when she was married to her husband? So, the claim that Muhammad (pbuh) was a pedophile is a totally wrong statement and the claim that he married a child girl is wrong too. Peace KrAsH: 3- Considering the difference between world 1400 years ago and now, it is known that girls got mature at younger age in older times than now specially in hot places like the one Muhammad (pbuh) lived in. ^^^ Lmafo thats one of the dumbest things ive seen written in wireclub,and ive seen some dumb things.. He married her at 6 and raped her at 9.. Peodophile!! Teece: @Rena787 - the simple answer to this is NO! Nobody surely would call themselves an Atheist if they had any doubt that a Deity of any sort actually existed - more they would label themselves Agnostic......... PINKlife: Yes, I find this thread self-contradictory, too... But it expresses the arrogant attitude that I meet among many theists, who seem incapable of accepting that unlike themselves, there are actually people that can grasp the idea that there is no god; and live a happy and normal life without letting such an imaginary concept govern their life. A poster in another thread called this phenomenon "going through life without an unnecesary exess baggage to weigh you down". Teece: That is so true Pink - Theists just cannot grasp the concept of people not having to believe in something to live their lives........ yet, I think that most Athiests get the concept of those that need the crutch.......... well, I do, and I even respect that need as long as its not preached to me............  StuckInTheSixties: "Is it really true that most of the atheists deep deep deep down they know that there is God ?" No.  Faith & proof: Krash before we going any further i'm gonna ask you: Do you accept Aisha as being a truthful source of information ? Because if you don't there is no point in going any farther and if you are gonna accept what she says, are you gonna accept everyting she says or just what you want to hear ? Because she also said there is no God except Allah A_Prince: krash If you don't know, the age of menarche was low in old times then it has raised then it declined in the modern times (specially in 20th century) because of the chemical effects of the materials that are used now beside many other reasons. Belows is a picture for a table taken from a research showing the average age of menarche in different places around the world, you can see that the hot places are ones of those which have low age of menarche. http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3438/worldmen.jpg Please get out of your comfort zone of ignorance and make a little search before you post your childish comments, otherwise you'll just look funny to the forum and lose your creditability. and for the Aysha issue, I showed you all things related to this issue, but as expected you're still sticking to your propaganda lies as any stereotypical closed mind hater. Peace Rena787: hey guys stop this thread isn't about discussing the age of marraige this thread is only for the atheist to answer the question pioneer: Rena, unfortunately, most threads on this forum will sooner or later be hijacked by immature toddlers that want to discuss other issues instead of having the respect an decency to start their own. In my experience, there is little to be done about it, since the mods seem to be busy with cozy small talk on the General Forum. Although it's a pain in the butt, there is not much we can do, so you'd better not lose a good night's sleep over it...  ElectricPotato: The belief that there is a man that lives in the clouds that watches over us is silly to me otherwise people would be selling real estate in the clouds so people could be closer to god. Ha i bet people would buy on that if they could . On the marriage subject, i don't care what culture it is but marrying children seems not right. They are not mature enought to be in a relationship yet become mothers. Besides most of them resulted in rape and by relatives! Which is'nt good for the born child gene wise. pedofilia is unbelievable in some parts of the world to me. Talent_M: @ Krash, don't open old documents, pls follow the link below it will be very clear and makes good sense to you "Why did Prophet Muhammad Marry Aisha; the Young Girl!!!!???" http://www.wireclub.com/Blogs/Talent_M/138259 Talent_M: "The belief that there is a man that lives in the clouds that watches over us " sorry, who does think such way!!!?? Robert_Paulson: Is it true that Allah uses meteors and stars to pelt genies(Djin) to prevent them ascending heaven and overhearing the celestial council of Allah? A_Prince: @ Robert YES, It's true! The uses of stars as mentioned in Qur'an: 1- Guidance for people, specially the travelers, to get directions. 2- As decoration and lightings for the sky. 3- Meteors are for pelting jins (devils). I know it's hard for you to believe in the third point in particular but that will raise the question how comes you can believe in things that you never seen with your eyes, Big Bang theory for example?! BTW, what are the uses of the stars in your opinion? Peace | Religion Chat Room 43 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
