Islam will rule whole world one day (Page 73)

chay chayi
chay chayi: To join the truth, you must deserve it to be chosen, to be a muslim is not to be chosen to the truth, most people hate Islam, they prefer to be or atheist or christian, atheism and christianity is more popular than islam, and in Abrahams time, pagan was the global belief and worship, Abraham was one person against everyone, truth is always less populated, Judaism is the only truth, that's why Judaism is the less populated, because they are CHOSEN OUT OF ALL OTHERS

Islam is built on the Torah and falsified it, soon islam and christianity will vanish, and only the truth - Judaism - will glorify totally for eternity
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chay chayi
chay chayi: Now you can see how Muslims, Palestinians, Arabs etc. lie

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Zanjan
Zanjan: They were just staging a die-in, eastern style. They ripped it off from the Americans.

Seriously, Chay, you sound like you've been sucking choke cherries all day.
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chay chayi
chay chayi: This is the truth what muslims are on about

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chay chayi
chay chayi: Hamas fabricated an Arab family death on Gaza beach

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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Is Chayiii altogether on a smoke because Hamas has conducted a large-scale rocket test? It seems Hamas has fired rockets into the sea as part of tests to improve its ballistic capabilities and prepare for its next war against Israel. There is also clear evidence that Hamas has begun rebuilding its terror tunnels into Israel destroyed during Operation Protective Edge.
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chay chayi
chay chayi: http://video.clarionproject.org/2015/jabhat-al-nusra-executes-woman-accused-of-adultery.mp4
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Zanjan
Zanjan: And what would a Hebrew Jew do to a woman who committed adultry - is that not the same antiquated law handed down to you as well?
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chay chayi
chay chayi: But they do it to anyone they capture, to Syrian people to anyone they fight, they are plain murders
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chay chayi
chay chayi: Zechariah 8:20-23
"Thus says the Lord of hosts: Peoples shall yet come, even the inhabitants of many cities. 21 The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying, 'Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the Lord and to seek the Lord of hosts; I myself am going. ' 22 Many peoples and strong nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the Lord. 23 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
>>>>> In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'"<<<<<
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Zanjan
Zanjan: How do you know the people they capture aren't all adulterers? I mean, there are other perfectly good choices that will be met with the death penalty as well. Seems to me God didn't use race or ethnic background as an exception in wrong doing - He doesn't have a double standard.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not taking sides, just asking a reasonable question, as anyone with good judgement would.

Interesting last verse.......I have to say that when my son and I were in Israel, we took a resident Jew with us to old Jerusalem. Of course, also to Haifa. He was our cab driver - David, do you know him? Anyway, he didn't think he was safe when we went through the West Bank - he was sweating like a racehorse from nervousness, saying he'd never do that again. I told him we'd be ok because God was protecting us.

By the way, just heard on the news the other day that the Supreme Court of Canada has allowed Christian Lawyers in Nova Scotia to interpret the civil law according to the Bible. Well, good luck with that, especially if they're including the OT.
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chay chayi
chay chayi: So by questioning, "how you know" you behead people ?? so now you may behead everyone because "how do you know", or its the opposite, beheading is only when you know, the Torah says that it has to be 2 witnesses to punish, even if one person says he saw, its not acceptable, it must be 2 people that "saw", and knowing is not enough, it must be "eye witnesses

Deuteronomy 19:15
"A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established. 16 If a malicious witness arises to accuse a person of wrongdoing, 17 then both parties to the dispute shall appear before the Lord, before the priests and the judges who are in office in those days.

This verse (of Zechariah) doesn't mean today, it refers to after the Messiah will come
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Zanjan
Zanjan: We use eye-witnesses too, but mostly as leads to investigation. For Trial, nothing less than material evidence is acceptable because we cant trust the witnesses aren't lying.

Your ancient Jews probably knew everyone in their village but I'm thinking they were also quite gullible, easily slighted, resentful, and not terribly smart. The chance that someone other than the spouse has caught the couple in bed together are extremely remote. Those caught-in-the-act don't deny it, they either give excuses or plead for mercy.

Muslims require 4 witnesses. Now who in the world would.....? In civilized countries, voyeurism is against the law.


Deuteronomy 24:1
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.


Romans 12:19
"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."

Quran:
"The parties should either hold together on equitable terms, or separate with kindness." (Surah al-Baqarah, 2:229)

Quran 65.1
O Prophet! when you divorce women, divorce them for~ their prescribed time, and calculate the number of the days prescribed, and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, your Lord. Do not drive them out of their houses, nor should they themselves go forth, unless they commit an open indecency; and these are the limits of Allah, and whoever goes beyond the limits of Allah, he indeed does injustice to his own soul."

Jews as well as Muslims could divorce without giving any reason whatsoever - death or divorce, which is the more civilized thing to do?
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chay chayi
chay chayi: No, investigation is not enough, because it can be mistaken, like many people get falsely accused and prisoned, that's why it must be 2 eye witnesses, and eye witnesses is only valid to Jews, because they don't lie, and if any Jew is found to witness with lies, he's not valid for witness anymore, and if he's found with any sin against the laws of the Torah, he's not valid anymore to be a witness

Jews are the smartest people ever, they were not gullible ever, and not slighted, all our laws are from God, this God that you think he was then a old ancient God, but today God is smarter than before, your definition of God is that God gets smarter and changes, this belief is heresy and apostasy and defamation against God, God does not change, and he's not changeable, and he's not under time to be changed, he created time, time is the definition of a limited existence, and God is infinite and unlimited, you laugh against God's laws, and you think that your silly human created limited mind is smarter than God, "the Ancient God of the OT", as if God today changed, PROFANITY

What does voyeurism have to do with eye witness, eye witness is not voyeurism, its simply eyewitness, you make up definition to suit your moronic failed wisdom

The question you ended has no sense, divorce is made like marriage is made, like you marry if you want, the same you divorce if you want, marriage has no force, and what does "death" come in this question ??? has no sense

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Zanjan
Zanjan: Investigation can be mistaken?? How else are you supposed to ask questions - stare at the ceiling until you receive a vision?

"because they don't lie, and if any Jew is found to witness with lies...."

That's a very revealing contradiction - you know they can. Two can lie as well as three. In fact, a whole bunch of priests can lie - we've seen them do it. One needs only to read the list of punishments for things one wouldn't expect a religious person to do and realize that had they all been truth tellers, they wouldn't have needed the list in the first place.

I've never said that God changes - God has said many times through all religions that He's unchangeable. Humans are changeable - in your case, from one sentence to the next.

Actually, I'm fine with letting you stay with no sense.
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chay chayi
chay chayi: If you are fine with letting someone staying with no sense, (even only saying it) then you're not a prophet (modern ...) and you're not representing God, and you're outside the truth

Again, investigations can be mistaken, secondly, witnesses are made to warn the one that commits a crime or sin, that what he's about to do is a crime or sin, and its punishable with that particular punishment for that sin, and only by this, that he's informed and warned, and despite it he does sin, only then he's punishable, so witnesses have 2 purposes, to eye witness and to inform and warn

Every religious Jew ("religious" Jews only) is considered not lying (unless they are found lying, even once) when they are 2 people, because 1 can always be deceived by lies and sin or imaginations etc.

Twisting words and lying, i said that "what you said" has no sense, so the non sensible problem is you
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Zanjan
Zanjan: You got half of it right - I'm not a Prophet, not representing God. Neither are you. So, we're on an even playing field.

God has been warning people not to commit a crime since man got his 3rd brain. Your government has been doing the same. One can't say they didn't know. The wrongs are revealed by their evidence.

The wrong- doer unwittingly exposes himself as the perp by condemning himself out of his own mouth because God doesn't guide the wrong doer. In the end, the truth will always be revealed.

The devil only deceives his own kind. Honestly, it seems to me you never read the Torah. The devilish have got what they deserve.

Chay, I have no problem - I'm the one who understands what I said, not you -> by your own admission; and by your own admission, you condemn yourself out of your own mouth.

I suppose that makes no sense to you either.




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chay chayi
chay chayi: I'm not half right, and you are total wrong
God's warning is not enough, because not everyone has connections to God and his warnings, so for this are the witness to inform and warn, and also warning the exact punish it has

It was not "our" government, "our" is only those that obey God, those who not, and sin, is not "our", they are sinned people, and punishable

Witnesses is because not all details are acknowledged to everyone, and even he does know that its a sin, but he doesn't know the punishment of it, he's not aware of its harm and seriousness, and even he does know all details, but by acting you go off mind, and you are not aware, and that's why it must be witnesses, that makes him informed, and aware, to its total seriousness, and if despite it all, he does sin, then he deserves the punishment totally, just and right

I never read the Torah ?? so now you proved yourself being a liar and devilish, not only that i read the Torah, but also the Tanach, and not only that i read them, but studied them, and not only that i studied them but more then hundreds of times, besides, that its a command to read the entire Torah every year, and its divided into every weak, to 54 weeks every year

I do know what you said, and you said things that have no sense
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: "Jews are the smartest people ever, they were not gullible ever?" Really? So how come they don't know the difference between a volcano and God? I mean, it's not like it isn't described well enough in the Torah, it's just that they're too blind to see the truth.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: And too blind to see they've never ruled the world or ever will as a religion.
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chay chayi
chay chayi: Solomon ruled the entire world, and soon the entire world will be ruled by Jews and Israel, *WHEN* ??? when the Messiah will, but you Zanjan don't believe in a coming of the Messiah, and you think that the way the world is now, is all it is, you're a hypocrite and a liar, you cherry pick things from scripture to suit your false Bahi belief, you are totally contradictional and a and liar,the same bible you quote scripture from it, that same bible says clearly about the Messiah's coming, to make God's kingdom on earth, you're not a believer, you're a total hipocrite
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chay chayi
chay chayi: Abraham was not a Muslim, you try to identify Abraham by lies and twisting definitions, Islam was established by Mohammed, there was no Quran and Islam before Mohammed. before Mohammed was Arab idol demon worshipers, Muslims try to twist and lie the identity of Abraham being a Muslim, by using the definition of the word Muslim meaning submission, so by this they say that Abraham was a Muslim, meaning, submitter to God, but its lies and deceiving, because Islam is their way and belief of submission, and all their details, and its based on many lies and falsification, the way of submission is the Torah, not the Quran, the Quran is based on the Torah and twisted and added and deducted and falsified many things, man made, Abraham was the father that started Judaism, the real name is not Judaism, Judaism means Judah, Yehudah, Yehudah was one tribe from the 12 tribes of the children of Israel - Jacob, Jews is not the name of the nation, the name is Israel, because of them being the children of Israel, the land is called the land of Israel, its full in all the prophecy books, the land was given to the children of Israel, its even written in the Quran, that God gave the land to the children of Israel, not to Ishmael and his descendants the Arabs
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chay chayi
chay chayi: Deuteronomy 30:1-10
"And when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God has driven you, 2 and return to the Lord your God, you and your children, and obey his voice in all that I command you today, with all your heart and with all your soul, 3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have mercy on you, and he will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you. 4 If your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there he will take you. 5 And the Lord your God will bring you into the land that your fathers possessed, that you may possess it. And he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. 6 And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. 7 And the Lord your God will put all these curses on your foes and enemies who persecuted you. 8 And you shall again obey the voice of the Lord and keep all his commandments that I command you today. 9 The Lord your God will make you abundantly prosperous in all the work of your hand, in the fruit of your womb and in the fruit of your cattle and in the fruit of your ground. For the Lord will again take delight in prospering you, as he took delight in your fathers, 10 when you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that are written in this Book of the Law, when you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
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chay chayi
chay chayi: The name "Palestine" was given to the land of Israel by the "Romans" the pagans ?? to annihilate the Jewish identity, "Palestine" is the Philistine" nation that faught king David and the Israelites, their borders were near the Israel borders, and when the Romans destructed the Temple and expelled the Jews, they gave it the name Palestine to exceed the Philistine borders, its a name given by crime and sin from Pagan worshipers
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chay chayi
chay chayi: You're a hypocrite and and a liar, the NT says, that Jesus said that he must be killed, and its the plan of God, that he should be killed, to forgive everyone's sin, When his deceived people asked him that if he's the Messiah, and he can perform miracles, so why doesn't he defeat those that want to kill him ?? so he answered that he must be killed and this is God's plan (because he was not the Messiah, and couldn't perform any miracles) so your blaming Jews for killing Jesus, contradicts the whole Jesus belief, and Muslims say that Jesus was not killed, is a open lie against the true history, like the entire Islam is built on lies (besides that the Jews only handled him over to the Romans, and the Romans killed him, AND, he had to be killed for his terrible sin against God, and deceiving people with his evil and lies)

The Antichrist will be you and Muslims and Christians,and you'll all end up defeated

The whole entire concept of a "Messiah" is a Jewish concept, Christians put on Jesus, all the things Christians and Muslims say against the Jews is the opposite, the Antichrist are Christians and Muslims, they will all end up dead, the prophecy books says clear, that by the end of the days, God will restore the Jews in Israel, and all nations will come to fight Israel, and God will all defeat them under Israel

You ignored the verse i quoted from Deuteronomy, that says clear that God will grace the Jews and gather them back to Israel and God will be happy with Israel more than he was happy with Abraham Isaac and Jacob, you keep repeating your ignorant nonsense to stick with your false believes

Deuteronomy 30:3-9
3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have mercy on you, AND HE WILL GATHER YOU AGAIN from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you. 4 If your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there he will take you. 5 And the Lord your God will bring you into the land that your fathers possessed, that you may possess it. And he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. 6 And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. 7 And the Lord your God will put all these curses on your foes and enemies who persecuted you. 8 And you shall again obey the voice of the Lord and keep all his commandments that I command you today. 9 The Lord your God will make you abundantly prosperous in all the work of your hand, in the fruit of your womb and in the fruit of your cattle and in the fruit of your ground. For the Lord will again take delight in prospering you, as he took delight in your fathers

This is clear that you don't know history and you are missing the entire history, the only thing you know is your Quran, you are deluded and in denial, no one will suffer only you, truth is truth, you cannot deny it, it wont help you nothing

Mohammed was not only not the final prophet, but not a prophet at all PERIOD

And the truth says, that Jews believe only in the truth, but Christians and Muslims believe also in lies
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