can anyone prove atheists are the most evil people in the world? (Page 2) Talent_M: don't misunderstand, I said that Stalin also was killing in the name of Communism,isn't right? Point5andahalf: Atheism used to be a passive personal belief, (or disbelief). In recent years there is a definite push for an Atheist agenda, as some have the belief that Atheism is the better attitude. (the higher road) There are Atheist groups that display advertisements, and like to "convert" others to their way of thinking. Richard Dawkins (or the new messiah, jk), has said that Atheists need to make a stand against religious mysticism. Them's fighting words!! Passive?,... not anymore! Some atheists are full of ridicule, with a sense of superiority and self-righteousness. Similar to religious extremists. If you can't beat em, join em!  exhibgirl: Atheism is not a religion or a political doctrine or ideology. Atheists do not believe there is a god. That's it. Don't mix "not believe there is a god" with "believe there is no god". They are not the same and atheists "do not believe". Simple as that. Atheists tend to discuss moral topics, use philosophy, argue and finally settle on what's good and moral and what's not. These discussions are often the result of an eventual consensus emerging. To say that something happens in the name of atheism is wrong. Christians have killed Jews and Muslims in the name of Christianity. Jews have killed Muslims in the name of Judaism. Muslims have killed Christians and Jews in the name of Islam. Hindus have killed Christians and Muslims in the name if Hinduism. Nazis killed Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Handicapped, Communists etc in the name if Nazism (an ideology under Hitler). Communists killed Jews and everyone else they didn't like in the name of Communism. Since there is no Atheist ideology you can by definition not kill anyone in the name of Atheism. Talent_M: in fact,every athiest has a country and flag,he make his own principle or belief different from one to another,"not believing in god" is also a belief, to me spreading out corruption among people is worse than clear enemy, which makes the society falls dawn in the abyss. Talent_M: "exhibigirl a muslim who does not agree with you would probably kill you. "...lol then be careful next time with me Lex_Hardon: "exhibigirl a muslim who does not agree with you would probably kill you. "...lol then be careful next time with me lol! Talent made a funny. First time ive agreed with him ever! Its also wrong to think that all muslims are jihadi crazed terrorists. They arent. One thing im puzzled about though, is why muslims dont come out and condemn terrorist atrocities with the same profound fervor that they have shown they are capable of when someoneone draws a cartoon of their prophet. rabbitizer: I have been wondering about the same. Outsiders have no way of influencing them. The only way to stop extremists from recruiting more suicide bombers is for their own religious leaders to tell them it's wrong and that they will go to hell if they blow themselves up along with a bunch of innocent people. Glorifying and even condoning such horrible acts only makes it continue forever and Islam will be more and more regarded as a violent and despicable religion. exhibgirl: "not believing in god" is NOT a belief, regardless of what religious people would like to think. It looks like Talent_M did not understand anything of what i wrote. "exhibigirl a muslim who does not agree with you would probably kill you." - well, yes, that's my point. And not just muslims. but jews and christians too. Atheists on the other hand would probably sit down and discuss it over a cup of coffee. ponytail: Atheists are not so hellbent on being right all the time. Because of that, they tend to be more relaxed and pragmatic, since they don't have any faith to defend vigorously with all kinds of ludicrous arguments... lois_lane: Nahhh I dont agree with that. A few that I have met love to let you know what you believe is a joke, and the way they believe is to be true. I know more people who dont believe in anything that cram that thinking down your throat, then people who do believe in something bothering to say anything about it.meh bahcatha2: muslims do have some irrational belief that they are somehow supreme to other religions and have some kind of God given right to kill those who do not agree with their beliefs, at least an atheist wont kill you for not agreeing with them. Spellweaver: There is no way in hell anyone can convince me to believe in a god that allows humans to kill each other in his name. Such a barbaric concept has to be man made!
Point5andahalf: The way I see it: We have free will, to do as we please. If someone kills in the name of their misconceived "god", why would the true God stoop to protect mere humans from killing each other? Humans are responsible for their own actions, and we reap the consequences of past generations. To expect God to intervene is another misconception. It is because of our lack of knowledge that we suffer. Only those who actually follow God's direction can expect to be blessed and protected. Atheists seem to imagine humans are something special in God's eyes, and he ought to tend to our every need, regardless of our actions! Like he is our slave. btw, I don't believe Atheists are any worse than anyone else. "Evil" is a human invention. There is no such thing as evil in nature, it's all cause and effect. bahcatha2: we humans aren't even a speck of dust in the overall cosmic scheme, yet we are so arrogant that we believe we are made in the image of god, we are an amoeba growing on a rock in the middle of space, anyway god is a spirit and probably has no real image. Point5andahalf: Yea, It's against Abrahamic/Moses law to make an image of God because it is impossible and any attempt is just idolatry. Isaiah 40:22 "God sits above the circle of the earth. The people below seem like grasshoppers to him! He spreads out the heavens like a curtain and makes his tent from them." You humans could be compared to a plague of locusts even! (I mean we humans) bahcatha2: which is why I don't believe in Jesus, God is an immortal spirit with no image that cannot die, Yet his so called son was obviously not immortal if he died, the very belief in christ is saying that God lied, God is weak and cant handle business anymore, so he had to have sonny boy take over the family business. I do believe in a creator of some sort, but I do not try to claim I understand exactly what it is because I do not know, however I do know that the theory of the son of the creator is just plain bogus. Spellweaver: It's easy to see where this myth comes from. Hercules, Tammuz, Attis, Dionysos and Osiris were all sons of god that died and rose a long time before the Jesus fable was fabricated. napoli: Atheism must, out of sheer necessity, have pre-dated any form of belief or religion. It is the natural or default position in the human mind. john1576: Spellwheaver. You cannot reasonably place Jesus in the same category as Isis and Hercules etc. Jesus really existed in History, (you can argue if He was who He claimed to be). You only have to look at Hollywood to see humans have a craving for exiting stories, in the past Isis was the Angelina Jolie of her day. If you want to compare Jesus with people from History placing Him with Plato would be more reasonable. But unlike Plato Jesus is credited with extraordinary acts. Spellweaver: John, I both do and don't place Jesus in the same category as the other dying-and-rising gods, since they share so many similarities. For people that regard this situation from the outside and don't pay any particular attention to Jesus, but study them all with the same eye, it's plain to see that Paul included elements from former deities when he created the biography of his "Christ of Faith" based on the historical person Jesus the son of Joseph. But these earlier gods had themselves been modeled on a host of sources. If we take Hercules as the most typical example, scholars find at least 50 people, both historical and mythical, behind this legendary character, some being as much as 5000 years old. Therefore, it's wrong to regard the Pauline Jesus as "unique", since he is the product of an attempt to create a persona that could match his rivals in the Roman Empire miracle by miracle. | Religion Chat Room 10 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
