Freedom of Speech Further Eroded by Superstitious BS (Page 2) Talent_M: "And people condoning such behaviour are no better off in my book." so true cos I'm sure your book is not clean.  candyrivers: Sorry but santa Claus there fails to mention the marriage was consumated when she was 9. That is not the age of consent anywhere. As for my book, I dont have one, I believe that humans are responsible for their own actions. There is no God and no Satan. No Rama or Sita, no Yahweh or Jehovah no Thetans. Just us, just evolution, plate tectonics, physics or maths. Or are you talking personally, because I am without sin. I dont believe in god, so I cant sin. I still conform to society norms and mores. Never been arrested. Not peddling poison to the masses. candyrivers: Yeah cos muslims have never totured or killed or maimed or massacred or caused any problems for anyone ever. Talent_M: holodecker unfortunately this is third millennium and you still don't like to try bit looking for the truth. john1576: Holo. I am not supporting Islam, but you are judging a 6th century man using 21st century morality, do you think that is rational.? God told Hebrew settlers in one town to kidnap and rape local girls, forcing them to be their wives. Some of those girls would be around 10 years old. To me and you, that is outrageous, God thought it was right to do. Muhammad and God seemed to share some ideas at least. candyrivers: I am pretty sure it wasn't god telling them to do it. I am pretty sure it was a man behind that one. john1576: Candy. Am just repeating what it says in the Bible. It did say there that 'God' told them to become s%$ criminals. candyrivers: How many times, there is no god and men wrote the bible and the other fairy tale books. holodecker: Exactly John, If the bible or the quran was from god it would not contain immorality. The imorality in these texts is proof that it is from man and not from god. flashie: i cant be arsed debating tonight. thank god for free speech and us recognising the difference between good and bad. peace flashie: Talent Ahki, which daughter was Prophets saws 9yr old wife? Abu Bakr ra? i think im correct?? if i am, that was Mohammads' best freinds daughter Aisha. in the west we know all the bible stories as we are taught it growing up. same for islam i guess in islamic ends. unless the half a billion or so muslim men that populate this world are all pedophile rapists as well as al qaida terrorists on the c.i.a. payroll with Bin Lardin, its prolly more like what John said, and not as sordid as worse scenario you can imagine. i dont care. make your own minds up with what knowledge you have. peace yall im gonna mug an old lady for some smack and get some kip x john1576: I think you are right Flashy. People criticizing Islam need to know times have changed. In one part of the Bible women prisoners were brought back from a battle where all their husbands and brothers had been slaughtered. A Prophet told the Jewish army God would be angry at this act of mercy and ordered all the women prisoners killed. So they examined the women and found that any who were virgins (little girls) could be kept for extra wives, the other women were slaughtered (probably in front of their children). Well the prophet guy said this would make god happy. (I hate to think how young those little girls were that were handed out as extra wives). This Bible story is probably what inspired the Balkan 'Christians' to kill Muslim men and gang rape their wives. ♠_Krash_♠: Yeh people need to know islam has changed...Yeh right john,but changed for better or worse? This scumbag im posting about(posted this elsewhere,but deserves another mention)was the muslim leader of australia only a couple of short years ago,a very popular man amongst the muslim faithful here.. His name was Sheik al-Taj al-Din al-Hilaly,and at the time (not sure about now)he was this nations most senior muslim cleric,and last time i looked theres more than just a few muslims in this country... some of the media commentary at the time.. Federal Sz# Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward said the sheik should be sacked and deported. Ms Goward said the sheik had a history of making such comments and many would feel Australia's tolerance had been abused. "It is incitement to a crime. Young Muslim men who now rape women can cite this in court, can quote this man ... their leader in court,'' she told the Nine Network. "It's time we stopped just saying he should apologise. It is time the Islamic community did more then say they were horrified. I think it is time he left." And from the dogs mouth itself.. In his Ramadan sermon Sheik Hilaly also alluded to the infamous Sydney gang rapes, suggesting the attackers were not entirely to blame.(they were muslim men who abducted and gang raped 2 white girls for 9 hours) While not specifically referring to the rapes, brutal attacks on four women for which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences, the sheik said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore make-up and immodest dress "and then you get a judge without mercy (rahma) and gives you 65 years." "But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he asked. The leader of the 2000 rapes in Sydney's southwest, Bilal Skaf, a Muslim, was initially sentenced to 55 years' jail, but later had the sentence reduced on appeal. In the religious address about adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilaly said: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? "The uncovered meat is the problem." And then this dog goes overseas and on arabic television and vomits this filth.. Anyone who agrees to this vomit,has no moral conscience and should have their lights punched out Edit - The rendevouz he talks of in the video is about some muslim men who gangraped 4 white girls for 9 hrs. flashie: krash do you have any links to verify these quotes pls? holo, did you see cass sunsteins white paper regarding freedom of speech? im not going to bother -today anyway- with dragging up stories with links to source about females being raped in the army on tours or rape of children in occupied countries illegal wars. it becomes some gay mud slinging match. if you think islam is your enemy like bush told you, good for you. i just hope you come to your senses as much as id wish any pissed of muslims for a multitude of reasons also wrongly hating an entire nation or nations of ppl based on emotional hype. arms dealers the world over and nwo parasites rubbing their hands in glee when the poor debt slave peasants fight among themselves. peace be with you all. theres my freedom of speech for today flashie: and holo. im not sure youre correct or justified in calling Mohammad a rapist. i guess that was a reaction to somthing you read in seconds on a website (here) and quickly decided to be judge on the matter. i hope your valiant effort overlaps to naming and shaming rapists from all races and walks of life? | Religion Chat Room
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