Whats Going On in Kiev? (Page 5) davidk14: . Not true dave. I asked a question, anastasiia answered.."....the break-up of the USSR was due to USA. I think it's all already know." Do you agree with her statement? . davidk14: . ahhhh...you have no answer for me do you dave. You have this messed up idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. "My enemy" is Iran. Russia fully supports Iran. They are the bastards that built the nuclear reactor and energy program for Iran. They knew and know Iran is building a nuke that WILL be used against Israel. You believe I live in a past world of the cold war. Perhaps. I have no bones about it. I admit it. However, in our current day world, Iran is the world's Hitler. They have "admitted" to the destruction and genocide of MY homeland. Russia supports Iran. You see Dave, in this REAL scenario...the good friend of my enemy IS my enemy. End of discussion. .  The13th: Anna, its very interesting because this is the first time I have heard a native Russian of ukraine spoken on this. And yes to know that u people have always treat Russia as the motherland is very important. Because the newspaper will never tell us this. The people of the world wish you well. Some sinister governments try to plot against u for their own benefit but they will fail. The13th: Dave, I just want to point out a few things: 1. I think the French help Iraq to build the reactor which Israel taken out back in the 80s. You don't really regard those French frog as your enemy do you. 2. I just don't think Iran has stated, or show intention to, or has inclination to nuke Israel. Iran has some exttemist elements, and you have to guard against these elements, but the people in power today are neither mad not stupid. And it will take a stupid and mad man to ever contemplate using nuke. 3. Funny, I have a feeling if Hitler is around he will have no objection to the creation of the state of Israel. Hitler only seems to have objection of Jews in his third Reich. Therefore it is not right to say Iran is worlds Hitler today. davidk14: . Boyz said: 1. I think the French help Iraq to build the reactor which Israel taken out back in the 80s. You don't really regard those French frog as your enemy do you. David responds: Actually, it was the French and Italians that built the reactor for Saddam. And yes, I do. Anyone that actively helps terrorists obtain nuclear materials can consider themselves agents of nuclear destruction. Yes, I am extremely concerned about Pakistan having the bomb as well as NKorea. Boyz said: 2. I just don't think Iran has stated, or show intention to, or has inclination to nuke Israel. Iran has some exttemist elements, and you have to guard against these elements, but the people in power today are neither mad not stupid. And it will take a stupid and mad man to ever contemplate using nuke. David responds: The Mulahs, the President of Iran have stated in public, documented, video taped, Iranian government officials, stating that Israel will cease to exist. One such documentation… . (Reuters) - Iran announced missile tests on Sunday and threatened to wipe Israel "off the face of the earth". http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/01/us-iran-idUSBRE8600HG20120701 Boyz said: 3. Funny, I have a feeling if Hitler is around he will have no objection to the creation of the state of Israel. Hitler only seems to have objection of Jews in his third Reich. Therefore it is not right to say Iran is worlds Hitler today. David responds: Are you nuts? Hitler supported and funded Arab murder squads of Jews which were trained by the SS. “…In 1932, Hitler was given the name Abu Ali in Syria, and he was named Muhammad Haidar in Egypt.[20] Adolf Hitler was celebrated in large parts of the Arab world, and some newspapers even likened him to the Prophet. Erwin Rommel was almost as popular as Hitler. Arabs Shouted "Heil Rommel" as a common greeting in Arab countries. Many Arabs thought the Germans would free them from the rule of the old colonial powers France and Britain. After France's defeat by Nazi Germany in 1940, some Arabs were chanting against the French and British around the streets of Damascus: "No more Monsieur, no more Mister, Allah's in Heaven and Hitler's on earth."[21] Posters with Arabic sayings: "In heaven God is your ruler, on earth Hitler" were frequently displayed in shops in the towns of Syria.[22] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world 20 Patterson, David (2010). A Genealogy of Evil: Anti-Semitism from Nazism to Islamic Jihad. Cambridge University Press. pp. 97–98. ISBN 978-0-521-13261-9. 21 Jump up^ Friedmann, Jan (23 May 2007). "World War II: New Research Taints Image of Desert Fox Rommel". Der Spiegel. Retrieved 14 September 2010. 22 Jump up^ Stefan Wild (1985). "National Socialism in the Arab near East between 1933 and 1939". Die Welt des Islams: 128. . The13th: I dont think the portrait of Hitler as a popular Arabian Idol is accurate. The limited German-Arab relationship are more driven by them having the common enemies of England and France. And their common stand against Jews. Apart from this there is nothing common between those 2 people. For example, we cannot say Hitler like the Arab more than the Jews. Hitler, like all skilled or even unskilled politician, always make alliance with force (no matter how unlikable they are) that can be used against common enemies. In this sense Hitler would definitely have funded some important elements in Arab, to buy them over to German side against England and France. SS would certainly be sent for this very important purpose. The Arab does not need further training from anyone when it come to murdering Jews. Ok lets just say, while Hitler is contemplating what to do with Jews in his Third Reich, and out of the blue league of nation suddenly proposed to have the independent State of Israel. Hitler would certainly have thought: Great, now I can just menuveur to have all the Jews to go to this new nation. Problem solved. And they can fight down there for all they want. So in that sense Hitler would have love the idea of a state of Israel.  dave3974: i am a friend of isreal too dave , unfortunately as I mentioned you are locked into a cold war red neck view of the world so not capable of discussion with anastasia davidk14: . You probably would not like me as the President of the United States. You see, I would take steps to destroy the evil of this world. However, I would sell the idea first. I would sell it to the American People. If the American People agreed, that Al Quida is evil, a Declaration of War would be voted on, and then once approved….we REALLY go to war and wipe them out. Even the vast majority of the Muslim world besides the UK and France,would join in to wipe Al Quida out. After all, everyone knows, the extremist fundamentalist Muslim terrorist is every ones terrorist…Muslims and non-Muslims alike. However  You see, we have a problem right now. Actually…HUGE problems. We cannot stop the murder and mayhem because what? Lack of leadership. Well, even though we spend more money on defense than anyone else by a mile…I believe we are unable to sustain a true combat force 1/10th the size of our military as in 1945. We are hard pressed to deploy 100k in the field right now. The population of the US is 318 million. That is .0003% of the population. Iran can press into service 11 million immediately. In Israel…they understand exactly the threat…they can press every able bodied man and woman 18 years and older into combat….immediately...about 3 million of a 5 million population. Here right now in the US….I read that 35% at least are obese (109 million). We are fat…we are lazy. Generations have grown up playing Gii and sitting on their butts watchin American Idol. If I were President, I would have to spend an enormous amount of time during my first four years getting Americans off of food stamps, unemployment insurance, welfare and and get these folks back to work. I would get PE back in the schools as well as after school programs (ie: sports, clubs, etc.) I would create a huge tax on sugar and flour making it too expensive to use. Sure, add tobacco to the list. Right now, sugar and flour are cheap and have been for decades. Our children show it. To be the best, we must get ALL our 318 million physically fit, or at least make that a high priority goal. A gorilla in the room. We have an annual debt of 1 trillion. Most of the tax money about 60% goes to Social Security and Medicare… 20% to the military and 20% to run the government. There are a number of gorillas that need to be tackled. We borrow or print about 1 trillion a year besides tax revenues also to fund these gorillas and this must stop. We must get control of the deficit. One of the gorillas in the room…We screwed up our veterans benefits for years and now, with 10’s of thousands coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan and are in need of medical support, the Veterans Administration is overwhelmed. It’s not money they need, they have plenty. They have no leadership. Leadership? If we can not lead by example, how can others follow. And…time is of the essence. There is a lot of evil out there. . SWlNE: I was speaking to a woman who said her relatives in Ukraine were given money to cause 'chaos' by USAmericans. I do think that European leaders should wake the fúck up and focus on their people and reject the US' political input.  duncan124: " I have met allies who can report that Russia, as part of their sophisticated information and disinformation operations, engaged actively with so-called non-governmental organisations – environmental organisations working against shale gas – to maintain European dependence on imported Russian gas,” Rasmussen told an audience at Chatham House, the international affairs think-tank in London. Poland is currently exploring its potential as a shale gas supplier as are the UK, Romania and others."thenews.pl Gay shale gas exploration to blame for the faked invasion of the Ukraine? The Obama machine has whacked the Romanians over corruption, so was the news from Iraq also faked to head off Obamas move?? dave3974: this nonsense from ramussen was subject to ridicule in the uk press -it is laughable nonsense , but it is worrying that someone in his position can be so unbalanced davidk14: . dave3974 said: this nonsense from ramussen was subject to ridicule in the uk press -it is laughable nonsense , but it is worrying that someone in his position can be so unbalanced re: " I have met allies who can report that Russia, as part of their sophisticated information and disinformation operations, engaged actively with so-called non-governmental organisations – environmental organisations working against shale gas – to maintain European dependence on imported Russian gas,” Rasmussen told an audience at Chatham House, the international affairs think-tank in London. davidk responds: Dave, do you agree or disagree with the statement, "...Russia, as part of their sophisticated information and disinformation operations, engage actively with so-called non-governmental organisations – environmental organisations working against shale gas – to maintain European dependence on imported Russian gas,” . duncan124: K14 it was a joke aimed at the Poles. Russia has stopped all contact with NGOs and made them illegal. Slap head Emote. You might also notice Poland had a central independent bank which would have to be a NGO or be open to charges of political corruption along with the gay shale gas corruption! vaporize53: The situation in Kiev is the first step to creating an independent racially pure nationalist Slavic State. The area is already 98% pure. This is the White Homeland we have fought for. I urge a divorce from NATO , UN and Russia. Time for Caucasian Freedom in the Baltics. Notice the great advancements ; from Golden Dawn in Greece to Jobbik in Hungry , the New Right is here to stay!!!! duncan124: The Baltic countries are situated around the Baltic sea. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Sea Crimea was home to the Black Sea fleet, but maybe that would have messed up your post??? vaporize53: No duncan , a Slavic White Homeland would encompass Free Ukaraine , to Poland , north to Belo Russ then to Latvia , Estonia and Lithuania. That's it the Whitest most Christian area of the world. The13th: Hi vapor, are Slavic white under any kind of oppression from other races around that region that you need to establish your own exclusive homeland? It seems carry a religious overtone as well. White christian? Also, doesnt russia itself has white slavic christian? Why exclude russia? The13th: I am not totally against segregation. We are all different, and perhaps we just want our kids to grow up in an enenvironment where he can be simple and happy, rather than engaging in too many meaningless conflicts. I hope you get your homeland and show the world you are a good decent people. vaporize53: Good Morning boyz. Seems as if tou are on the right track. Every race has a Homeland with the exception of our race , the White Race. Africa for africans , India for indians , Asia for asians. What is for Whites? Clearly US has been given away. My theory puts White successful Americans at home in the European nations of their ancestory. Mine happens to be Eastern Europe. The most White and Christian area of the world. Needless to say we will be taking our physical and intellectual assets with us. Creating a tremendous brain drain , leaving integrated amerika in a fiscal and mental lurch. Clearly , the war directed at Whites and Christians is in full swing. Why exclude Russia? They are an oppressor , just as coercive as NATO , obongo and the UN. Time for a Nationalistic Slavic Homeland. | Politics Chat Room 68 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
