President Obama's Statement in Response to the Zimmerman Verdict.

PhiloSophia: President Obama's full statement on the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case:

"The death of Trayvon Martin was a tragedy. Not just for his family, or for any one community, but for America. I know this case has elicited strong passions. And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher.

"But we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken. I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son.

"And as we do, we should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. We should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis.

"We should ask ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this. As citizens, that's a job for all of us. That's the way to honor Trayvon Martin.

Neanderthal Gangsta: Dying was the best that ever happened to Trayvon Martin. No way would have gotten the president of the united states to tell the american people to honor his name. Holy crap.

harlett anathema: for x-mas tree's sake.....y would you say such a thing.....!!!!!

I grew up in the 60's on the north east coast.....though there were folks who'd use that ______ word... that was the extent of racism that i experienced....

we didn't have gang banging gun toting youths killing 1 another,each others younger brother & sisters..Killing a just given a leather coat or piece of jewelry for their birthday.. as folks are experiencing TODAY.......... or rampaging neighborhoods looking too kill & steal...

we mixed & mingled....we visited and were welcome into each others homes.......

some where along the line..AFRICAN AMERICAN'S QUIT PARENTING their YOUNG.....& have been off the killing of each others CHILDREN.................

oh and hey.. weren't jesse jackson & that loud mouth from ny whose name escapes in this very moment.... both coming up in their OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.. can't tell me they didn't notice...the VIOLENT CHANGE IN THEIR YOUNG MEN..........and they did NOTHING......................

digital_spark: I find it very disturbing that every time this topic is brought up, people assert it isn't about race, while some people automatically start spewing racial slurs. I would argue that the main point of this goes even beyond race, to that of Florida's "Stand your ground" law, to the delineation between law and vigilanteism, where my rights end, and where yours begin.

davidk14: .

Spark,

If a person enters my home without my permission, the Florida Law says (I Beleive) I can face the attacker and I may terminate that life if I feel my life is in danger. I do not have to flee.

If that law is adjusted by adding a "flee" amendment, I must leave my home and allow the lawbreaker to take over my house and belongings until authorities are able to respond. If lawenforcement is unable to respond, that will not matter. You must flee your home and allow the lawbreakers to trash and steal everything you own, and you can not do a thing about it.

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Inspector Ninja: Except David, the case in particular was not within anyone's home. Not to mention, who defines when you "feel" your life is in danger. I might feel my life is in danger if someone speaks French near me, doesn't mean I should shoot them. Captain Canada, you sir are not worthy of such discussion.

Captain Canada: OH my a Inspector.
Well sir thank you for such notable worthiness of mine in such topic.
My opinion and thank you for joining the conversation
Who died and made you Inspector

Kaiya_: Obamas just using the old divide and conquer strategy to divide our country and get us in fighting so that we wont organize or come together to stop the government from what they are doing to our currency and taking our money. Like how Hitler blamed the Jews for everything. Its the reason why Obama is actively trying to get as many illegal aliens in as he can.

Inspector Ninja: Did you give yourself a thumbs up?

Inspector Ninja: Your opinion is you should rape people and it should be legal. You can barely string a sentence together. You're not capable of reasonable conversation clearly and as such, not worthy of such discussion. Its sad I have to explain it.

Kaiya_: lol no sweetheart captain did. try to stay on topic. no one wants to rape anyone. what do you agree or not agree with in regards to my statement hon....its ok. Take your time.

If the stars fell: im reporting you to the admin right now by the way

pastormaker: I'm not a racist, but...(200 words of obvious racism).

pastormaker: Let's unpack Kaiya's "statement".

Obama wants to "divide" Kaiya's country so she and the other people won't come together to stop him from doing something to the currency and stealing her money. By "stealing" her money, I presume Kaiya is referring to federal taxes, which are lower now than they were under the Reagan administration. In Kaiya's opinion, this makes Obama a nazi, and Kaiya a Jew.

Also, even though the Obama administration has deported more illegal immigrants than any administration in American history, and illegal immigration to the USA is at its lowest level in decades, Obama actually wants to let as many illegals in as he can.

It's a cunning plan you have there, Hitler Obama. But Kaia and her people's army see through your shenanigans!

davidk14: Inspector Ninja said:

Except David, the case in particular was not within anyone's home.

David responds:

The amendment to flee is whether in a home, a car or whatever. If I was on my back from a punch that broke my nose, and then some guy pounding the crap out of me, I am unable to flee, and I determine that if he continues to beat the living snot out of me, I might just shoot his ass.

Ninja continues:

Not to mention, who defines when you "feel" your life is in danger. I might feel my life is in danger if someone speaks French near me, doesn't mean I should shoot them. Captain Canada, you sir are not worthy of such discussion.

David responds:

If I am unable to defend myself, and I got a gun in my pocket....that ain't no banana.

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pastormaker: Funny how George Zimmerman, who davidk14 claims had the crap pounded out of him, had "injuries" that were consistent with having been struck in the face at most twice. Zimmerman didn't even require hospital treatment, according to paramedics.

Of course, Trayvon Martin only had one injury, and he didn't require hospital attention for that either, on account of being dead as a result of the injury.

But davidk14 just knows Zimmerman was the real victim here.

Inspector Ninja: I think to be fair David is talking hypothetically to an extent. Nonetheless, he failed to actually answer the implications. I am amazed that people think that shooting a man to death is a reasonable response to being punched a few times. Its pretty cowardly.

My point was David that with such an ill defined law, people can claim all sorts of reasons where they "feel" their life is in danger and innocents will die as a result.

You talk about the amendment to flee, does stand your ground count wherever you are or just in your home? I'm not saying it isn't legal, I'm just saying it is really, really stupid.

Inspector Ninja: Not only that, but why do you have a gun in your pocket? Why do you need a lethal weapon on you at all times? Its ridiculous. That isn't self defense. That's manslaughter, killing someone over a fistfight stinks of lost pride more than it does genuine danger.

davidk14: .

Oh...by the way...the Zimmerman defense did not use the "stand your ground law" in his defense. If this had happened in Chicago between two black youths during the 4th of July weekend when 72 blacks were shot including a 5 and 7 year old and where 14 died, you would not have even carried.

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Inspector Ninja: First of all David, you ignored all the other salient points because they hurt your argument, then you tenuously go on to say "you would not have even carried" I'm going to assume you mean cared.

You shouldn't tell people what they care or not, as you have no idea, seemingly in line with the rest of your mouth flapping. Your assumptions are dumb, keep them to yourself, no one wants to hear them. Saying the defense didn't use Stand Your Ground is not only wrong, but trumpeted by many people defending a racist overzealous self appointed cop.

Read up on the court case, it was worded into the very court documents that the court provided to the jurors. From the beginning. Its a poor argument to say it wasn't used when it was the basis for their judgement.

davidk14: .


Inspector Ninja said:

First of all David, you ignored all the other salient points..

David responds:

Because the points are meaningless. Travon wanted to kick this guys ass because he was a “cracker”, nothing more nothing less and yah know what….he got shot because of it.


Ninja continues:

You shouldn't tell people what they care or not, as you have no idea, seemingly in line with the rest of your mouth flapping.


David responds:

Mouth flapping?? How old are you? 12?



Ninja continues:

Your assumptions are dumb, keep them to yourself, no one wants to hear them.



David responds:

Silly you…MOST OF AMERICA sees this as it really is…race bating. Just ask Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, the Master Baters.



Ninja continues:

Saying the defense didn't use Stand Your Ground is not only wrong, but trumpeted by many people defending a racist overzealous self appointed cop.



David responds:

Pleez….now you are showing your lack of information. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.


Ninja continues:

Read up on the court case, it was worded into the very court documents that the court provided to the jurors. From the beginning. Its a poor argument to say it wasn't used when it was the basis for their judgement.


David responds:

It’s a poor argument on your part since you did not do your homework….

Don't Blame The George Zimmerman Verdict On 'Stand Your Ground'

“But Zimmerman's defense didn't rely on Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law in court and instead simply argued that Zimmerman killed 17-year-0ld Trayvon Martin in self-defense.”

“The outcome of this case might have been exactly the same even without "Stand Your Ground."

http://www.businessinsider.com/stand-your-ground-not-used-in-florida-2013-7#ixzz2ZnXfFjN3



And, it seems you want to continue to sweep the Chicago slaughter of blacks under the carpet. Why is that?

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Inspector Ninja: I don't, I think you use the slaughter of those in Chicago to both deflect from the conversation at hand and to emphasize your racist attitudes.

Well done, you quoted a website that quoted the defense lawyer stating he didn't use the stand your ground defense. What you didn't do was take my advice and do even the most cursory of research. You barely understood what I said. It. Was. In. The. Court. Documents. Not only that but if you had paid attention to the case instead of picking at your arse, you could see that the court documents, i.e the instructions given to the jurors, had stand your ground worded into them. It was literally the basis for the case, no matter what media spin Zimmermans lawyer put onto it. It is standard to do so in cases of self defense and in Floridian law. Research isn't picking the first google answer you come across.

When I spoke about your assumptions, I was talking about how you assumed I wouldn't care about the deaths in Chicago. Try to keep up here champ, its really not that hard. Is it?

I mean you even seem to know the intentions of a dead teenager. You even seem to think he thought of zimmerman as a "cracker". I wonder what your thinly disguised racial motivations are? Oh wait, its obvious, don't tell me. I've heard it all before.

Inspector Ninja: You say the points are meaningless, but again, I say they hurt your argument and that's why you choose to ignore or deflect away from them. So you can push your agenda.

davidk14: .

My only agenda is the truth...and you can't handle the truth...





(I've been waiting to use this one for awhile )

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