let the marginalization of the NRA begin (Page 2)

harlett anathema: must not have any experience with.....alcoholic's or so called recreational drug users...

the destruction too body,personality,aura,and internal organs... are for life ever after...

davesdatahut: We are getting off the point of whether legalizing drugs would reduce gun violence (my view is that this is a no-brainer). But I still have not seen any evidence that legalizing booze increased domestic violence or any other crime. In fact, it reduced crime, by taking the business away from organized criminal enterprises, just as legalizing other drugs would do.
Conservatives or libertarians, or anyone who is concerned about the power of government, should embrace the idea of drug legalization because it gets the government OUT of people's personal lives. No?
Harlett, by your reasoning, we should make booze illegal. Do you advocate that?

harlett anathema: when the street corner thug...is put outta business,so too speak.....are no longer getting the benefit of their free sample ,or are making their money....as they saw fit....where do you suppose.. they will go.. too have those dollars in their pockets... too burger king,mcdonalds..start flipping burgers..

perhaps you haven't noticed....that VIOLENT/murderous home invasions are on the increase,merely because of 24/7 running VIDEO CAMERA'S planted everywhere...

by all means....legalize what ever you will.....just don't continue too live in a state... where you have no right too self defend yourself & yours....

davesdatahut: Harlett, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning here. Do I gather you favor keeping drugs illegal, to keep the drug dealers dealing drugs as opposed to looking for legitimate jobs? Or do you think these dealers will now go out and break into people's homes to support themselves?
Is is just one terrible option versus another?
Can you flesh that reasoning out a bit?
When booze was legalized, did the booze dealers then turn to burglarizing homes?

harlett anathema: 24/7 surveillance camera's have led too increased violent and murderous home invasions already....

some drugs other then POT don't ever deserve too become legal.........

but hey..our blessed opinions don't really matter....

once progressive liberals have destroyed the Us.constitution....what drugs your forced too take too keep ya mellow will be mandatory........ahhhh American living zombies...can't wait..............

davesdatahut: Harlett, I'm still wondering why you think the government should tell people what to do to their own bodies, and why crime would increase if drugs were legal. Where is the support for this? Or is this just your presumption?
As for surveillance cameras, I believe (correct me if I am wrong), they have helped law enforcement catch criminals. No? How have cameras led to increase crime?

harlett anathema: like it or not.....progressive liberals are gonna be doing just that....any more destruction of the "Christian faith" will lead too Islam having it way with what you get too do with you as well...

those camera's have led too more crimes being committed against people where they least expect them....having a burglar alarm doesn't mean your videoing.....

i ever put in a alarm system... i am putting in surveilance cameras that run 24/7


is there something wrong with your sober mind & presence of being....that you need for destructive drugs too be legalized.. wanting too stand in a junkie get them for free government line...by chance....

davesdatahut: Islam? Liberals? Cameras? 'Wanting too stand in a junkie get them for free government line?' What ARE you talking about? I keep asking questions and you keep not answering them. Can you lose the non-sequitors and just tell me where you are getting your views that legalizing drugs would increase crime?

harlett anathema: what freaking drugs are you talking about..can you list them....

then if anyone isn't answering another's questions.. i'd say You aren't.....

you think folks would out of no where become responsible drug users.. because they are legal...would up and get a job for the money....

davesdatahut: Ok, I just don't know what you are talking about. The freaking drugs I am talking about are all the freaking drugs that are out there. Legalize them and take the business away from violent criminals.
You haven't asked me any questions to answer, although you do seem to making a lot of presumptions about my views when you say things like 'you think folks would out of no where become responsible drug users.. because they are legal.'
I still am waiting to hear what facts you can cite to back up your contention that crime would increase if drugs were legalized.

harlett anathema: gee wizers....take offense....for not having a sound argument you thought only you could win.......

must not have any experience with those who have suffered with self induced drug addictions....

you want cold facts..such as.....birth defects........1 on 1 robbery....personality disorders,physical diseases,

you want cold hard numbers on how many folks there are in the us of a... who have never ever worked a day in their lives............get mommy (ied) by drug centers... they couldn't help them self... and now can never....state must do for them for life....and give them for free the drug of their choice....

like i said.... wtf...........do you think,would happen with the on the corner street thug........what's heading their way... is gonna be eye opening enough....Drugs are a owned business....the violence of which is passed down through ranks and eventually onto....whose ever minding their own business............

go spend some time with those addicted too bath tub type speed............

harlett anathema: why do suppose it is..............that America's African American Black Muslims, a much different breed of Islamic Muslim then the middle eastern version...Haven't marched onto,African American neighborhood streets and taken over............Think they don't have a problem with all the un necessary gun violence.. being enacted on their YOUNG from 1 another..........that they are fond of seeing hundreds of lives being wrecked and ruined by drugs and alcohol...

no one with any sound social sense,would ever advocate for all drugs too be made legal..........

harlett anathema: without a thriving middle class...........folks will become governed,liberties will be lost...and no one will tolerate doing for willfully drug addicted....

davesdatahut: Whether more or fewer people would get into drugs if they were legal is a separate issue - one we can also get into. But to bring this back to the original question...I keep trying to figure out why you think legalizing drugs would increase crime. You cite things about people who abuse drugs and the bad things they do. Point accepted. But where is there any evidence that legalization would INCREASE their use. I challenge you to this question: do you know a single person who currently does not use illegal drugs but would start using and abusing them if they were legal? Would you? Would your friends? I wouldn't. And no one I know would, I don't think. It's just like booze. People used it before it was legal. They used it after it was legal. The difference was that crime dropped after it was legalized because it took the business away from criminals. I am going to hazard a guess that, with education on the dangers of alcohol abuse, that booze-related crime has actually DROPPED in recent years. Drunk driving has certainly gone down. There is data to prove it at fbi.gov.It would stand to reason, therefore, that other booze-related crimes have done down. But maybe you have other facts?