An open letter to Liberals. (Page 4) LiptonCambell: No, I'm merely pointing out the flaw in your premise. You're stating that people ruin their lives on drugs, and that's why we shouldn't be allowed to choose drugs. I'm merely asking why stop there- plenty of people ruin their lives, especially when you throw moderation out the window- without moderation, yes, drugs can ruin your life- so can fast food, alcohol, candy, exercise, smoking cigarettes, fasting, owning pets- there are alot of things in life that people can ruin their lives with, and yet, we give people the benefit of the doubt for everything on that list- except drugs. If I cannot be trusted to smoke a joint, because of its harmful health effects, then why can I be trusted to eat at McDonalds DESPITE its harmful health effects. And how many peoples lives are ruined *BECAUSE* drugs are illegal? How many children have to grow up without one of their parents because they're in prison? How many people lose their jobs because they toke up when they're not at work? How many violent altercations could have been averted had drug users not had to buy drugs from the thug down the road, rather than at a convenience store?  Succinct Verbosity: "And how many peoples lives are ruined *BECAUSE* drugs are illegal? How many children have to grow up without one of their parents because they're in prison? " Two legitimate views fall on either side of this debate, but here we go: Britain traded with China using Opium in exchange for tea, which caused a severe addiction amongst the population. Once opium was outlawed Britain and China engaged in the Opium Wars, which resulted in Britain gaining Hong Kong. Now, person A may see the Chinese regimes view as correct - that is, a foreign power is weakening your people with an addiction; person B might take the view that if the trade is fair, then blocking it would be financially ludicrous. (Edited by Succinct Verbosity)  Dawn: No, I didn't mean that you harm yourself, i meant that you can harm others while on drugs... I've seen it happen before. LiptonCambell: Okay, replace the word "harm yourself" with "harm others"- let me do it for you; No, I'm merely pointing out the flaw in your premise. You're stating that people ruin their lives on drugs, and that's why we shouldn't be allowed to choose drugs. I'm merely asking why stop there- plenty of people ruin their lives, especially when you throw moderation out the window- without moderation, yes, drugs can ruin your life- so can fast food, alcohol, candy, exercise, smoking cigarettes, fasting, owning pets- there are alot of things in life that people can ruin their lives with, and yet, we give people the benefit of the doubt for everything on that list- except drugs. If I cannot be trusted to smoke a joint, because of its harmful to the community, then why can I be trusted to eat at McDonalds DESPITE it being harmful to the community? And how many peoples lives are ruined *BECAUSE* drugs are illegal? How many children have to grow up without one of their parents because they're in prison? How many people lose their jobs because they toke up when they're not at work? How many violent altercations could have been averted had drug users not had to buy drugs from the thug down the road, rather than at a convenience store? There we go- no more cherry picking- why is it okay for obese people, for alcoholics, for people to develop anorexia and diabetes- all from poor choices that are afforded to EVERYONE- you, me, Succinct- but when it comes to drugs, people cannot be trusted to make decisions for themselves? It truly feels like a holier than thou stance to take- that since you enjoy the freedom to choose your diet, you think there should be no laws enforcing restrictions on your diet- despite the fact that there is a sizable part of the population that harms the community with their choices in this regard- and since you enjoy exercise, there should be no laws enforcing restrictions on exercise - despite the fact that there is a sizable part of the population that harms the community with their choices in this regard But you have no interest in drugs- so it is okay to deny others the freedom to make the decision for themselves, for the very same reasons why numerous other freedoms are *SACRED*. If nothing else, you should acknowledge the hypocrisy of such a stance- if you believe people should be denied freedom of choice because it harms society, then there should be a multitude of other laws that should be passed for identical reasons. Why aren't you being consistent? Why are you satisfied with your premise despite its glaring flaws? Dawn: all I read there was bla bla bla sorry... You don't have to write a simple essay just because you want to argue. LiptonCambell: Lol you claim that your opinion should be enforced, but you cannot be bothered to read why people might disagree with you. Classy. Why are you here then? Dawn: Also... I've stated it before, it's MY opinion. So you telling me I'm wrong is not going to change anything. If anyone is forcing their opinion on people it's you! Nothing you can say will change MY opinion about this matter. Maybe YOU think that you are right. Who cares? LiptonCambell: >>>: I didn't force my opinion onto anyone. What do you think laws are? Requests? If it's illegal to act a certain way, and you insist it *MUST* be that way(which you clearly do), and completely disregard all discussion of the law as pointless yammer(which you clearly are)- guess what? You're forcing your opinion! Because if your opinion is enforced- and it is- then disagreeing with it is a crime. Whereas if my opinion is enfroced, then everyone is free to make up their own minds. (Post deleted by staff )  Findmysoul: Personally, I think that we as Americans have bigger issues to deal with rather than the issue of legalizing marijuanna. For example, marriage equality... I'm more upset that the government is making a statement about who people choose to love than legalizing certain drugs. ryan58581: i guess liberals here (as i almost disagree with them with everything) i would also like to show you your "heros" consequences |
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