HUGO CHAVEZ 1958-2013 loses his battle against his illness (Page 2) snaggletooth007: Bumpa have you ever talked to a Venezolano or a Cuban who couldn't buy food in their left wing socialist country because there is no free market and the government hoards the food surplus for the party members? I have. snaggletooth007: By the way those oil reserves were BOUGHT and PAID for by private companies and Chaves took them by force. If you had a business how would you like that done to you? Bumpa: Oh Gawd, you again? No, I haven't talked to a Venezuelan about this, but yes I have spoken to a Cuban family who said food wasn't a problem to buy in their country. Bumpa: Once again Snaggle, Bullshit! The oil may have been paid for by private companies but they didn't pay the people who owned it ie: The citizens of Venezluela. snaggletooth007: if the americans couldn't buy food it wasn't because the american govt. hoarded it you ignorant fool. Bumpa: Yes Snaggle, I'm an idiot... I misspelled Venezuela. OK, so the US govt doesn't hoard food but money to buy it is not available to the American poor. Yes I have a job, I am an environmental scientist. Do you know what that means? Bumpa: Would you please stop with the name calling Snaggle, it only shows your immaturity and lack of intellect. I could call you "american" which would be the worst insult of all snaggletooth007: I spelled it in spanish you ignoramus...but that's not the point you never answer a quesation with a direct answer snaggletooth007: you are a fool...the gov. gives welfare and foodstamps and job training to those who need it even disability checks. snaggletooth007: you're an asshole bumpa. an ignorant uninformed asshole. with apparently no talent or drive to make an honest living in a free market snaggletooth007: you asshole I have family in cuba a lack of food or common goods is a huge problems for those that aren't high in the gov. party snaggletooth007: it's hard to be civil with a leach on society who won't answer questions directly and blames all the problems in the world on the U.S., but doesn't have an original thought in his thick head. sebtheanimal: Chavez relied on his constituence by keeping them in poverty. The same old story as with any dictator. Bumpa: OK, thanks for that Snaggle. It is possible the family I met was high up back in Cuba, they seemed quite affluent anyway. I haven't travelled in this region at all, it's too close to USA to appeal to me. Asia is more my stamping ground. All I can say is that Hugo Chavez is one politician I quite admire for what he has done to lift his people out of poverty. snaggletooth007: environmental scientist? it means you work for a government most likely...and governments do not generate economies, they tax people Bumpa: I work for one of the largest energy companies in the world. My job is to minimise adverse effects their activities may have on the natural environment. Infinitely more important than making money. sebtheanimal: He did not lift anyone out of poverty, his entire existence is based on maintaining it. What bs. Go there and see. Some oil isn't going to make every Venezuelan even middle class. He provides social benefits to a poor base, thus ensuring they will always remain there. snaggletooth007: yeah and the way Obama wants to clean the environment is to tax our energy bills until we can,t afford to heat or cool our homes. I'm sure you agree with that policy. furthermore you are a huge hypocrite to except a paycheck from from "one of the largest energy companies in the world" I suppose you are the only person who should be aloud to make a living. | Politics Chat Room 43 People Chatting Similar Conversations |