Will Portugal Spark the Revolution? (Page 14) duncan124: Turn the page. The Nuclear cartoon really goes with;- "The Romanian President falls outside of the EU. The President is reported as meeting Prince Charles Windsor. An action which lands him outside of this Europe. Is it an UK Anti-EU agenda or in fact an anti-President idea caused by the toppling Portuguese President? Will the end of the US Sponsored Portuguese President also bring an end to other unwanted figures in Europe??" Just to remind the readers. A, The British Govt was selling the Portuguese Military guns ( and would have completed the deal if the ship carrying the weapons had not sunk) B,The Romanians have a Nuclear program and the UK is trying to dump nuclear waste and the Windsors are trying to make a profit from it. C, The Polish claim the Russians have invaded the Ukraine where there is a broken nuclear reactor and dump. D Unreal people have no place in Europe and woolly headed fiddlers meeting the European Presidents only upsets voters. Americans are not popular in Europe. duncan124: Portugal will run out of food after xmas.... "Portugal’s improvement in its unemployment rates were second only to Hungary’s, but this country still has the fifth highest rate of joblessness of the 28 EU member countries." Portugalnews online. Its a good guess Hungary is on the Invasion list too but its bad corruption and money laundering might make it a bridge too far for the Internet news scam. duncan124: I said a few posts back that the Govt should go now, they were just wasting our time with no new ideas. "Socialist Party leadership elections agreed for late September" "The Socialist Party is to hold a leadership election on September 28th following a proposal from the current incumbent António José Seguro that got overwhelming backing from the party’s National Political Commission meeting." Portugalnews online The Socialists gain a lot in the polls from arguments and leadership wrangles but to wait till September means they are not expecting an election this year. duncan124: "Seguro, facing a challenge from party heavyweight and Lisbon Council President António Costa, dismissed any suggestion that the election was coming too late. "I did not create this problem. This problem was created by António Costa but I did resolve the problem," said Seguro, who ran into the challenge after a worse than expected result in the recent European elections. Seguro continued by adding that it would be fraudulent to hold elections in July or August given the number of members on holiday in these months with the leader maintaining that not only the voting but also the leadership campaign itself "should take place at a time favouring the greatest involvement of the Portuguese." In turn, Lisbon Council President António Costa said that the date was late and that his challenge was about more than just personalities but about the political project embodied by the Socialist Party." Portugalnews online. http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/socialist-party-leadership-elections-agreed-for-late-september/31804 Seguro is the guy who accepted the actual cheque for the bailout from Europe when the Govt figures failed to meet the requirements for banking it. And was inquired after by several other Govts each time. The only time he did not actually cash the cheque was when he was on holiday and then it was Costa to signed for it. duncan124: The President collapses and receives oxygen as crowds chant "Government out!" . "The President of the Republic collapsed while was speaking in ceremonies of June 10, on guard. The President of the Republic had to interrupt the speech I made in the guard when his voice began to fade and felt unwell. He was immediately taken away by his security guards to the rear of the Tribune of honor. Had to be lying on the ground, according to found some people who were closest to the site, and had to receive oxygen Chip's speech, which lasted about seven to eight minutes, was being accompanied by cries of "Government out!" coming from a public zone, who had started two minutes after the President of the Republic have started to talk." Publico.pt duncan124: I think " The President collapses " is a false event. It was a military junta news story. Publico has printed the speech which the original story is unclear about. Either he said all of it and collapsed. Or he collapsed half way through. Either way a President asking the opposition to tell the Govt how the budget should be is a no-brainer. The President is wanted for crimes in Poland and would go on trial in Portugal for what was his part in the military executions and murders that took place while he was in office. Illness is a right wing attempt to avoid trial for crimes committed. The picture in Publico is obviously fake---and is connected to the supply of military equipment that never made it and so to like wise events in other parts of Europe!!! The chant of " Government out! " wins. duncan124: There has been some military activity in the UK. Earlier today I joked the Germans had landed. Portugals use of its ability to beat the air across Europe has attracted the Germans who are now scrambling to regain their hold on Europe via the military. Portugals Militarys Political wing that protested recently could also be the " opposition " which the President referred to. duncan124: Portugals Government must be watching the news about illegal activities in Poland with some trepidation. Firstly because there is an arrest warrant for members of the Portuguese Government which questions about illegal banking in might cause there to be the political will to have it enforced. Secondly, the mobsters are clearly moving in around the idea of controlling the banks in Europe. There is no explanation of why the Governor of Polands central bank thought the finance minister had to go or why Tusk agreed to sack him. The Banks governor was clearly an intelligent man in a powerful position who could have described the issues that effected his ideas with authority. I wonder if a questionnaire sent to Portugals Bank Governors would yield any good advice for the ministers???? Thenews reports Tusk as saying;- "PM Tusk said the recording of the talks was “illegal” and amounted to a coup attempt. "“This is an organized attempt to overthrow the government by illegal means,” " Prime Minister Tusk told a press conference on Monday afternoon, adding that he would not be asking for the resignation of Minister Sienkiewicz. "The initial analysis of these statements does not indicate any transgressions of the law,” Tusk said, referring to allegations that a government minister was trying to involve an independent central bank governor in political issues." Thenews.pl duncan124: "Government waives final bailout tranche 'to meet budget deadlines' Portugal's finance minister announced that the government will do without the last tranche of funding from a euro-zone bailout, as a result of deciding not to request an extension of the programme that would involve continued liaison with the 'troika' of international institutions overseeing the programme." Portugalnewsonline duncan124: Dead-On-Arrival or Both-Feet-In-The-Trough, the Portuguese military party seems to be about the Internet! The fake news that the Ukraine has now joined the EU more then it had before is obviously from the USA Republican sponsored military regime. Few in Europe would accept the US representative standing in front of the EU flag and claiming to have helped a war torn country join the EU. duncan124: "Young people trying to enter the labour market are, in fact, the main disadvantage" "The law prohibiting the media interns to sign articles "aims to prevent companies from firing workers and replace them by people working for free," says a member of the Committee on Professional Portfolio of Journalist, Ricardo Daniel. The public was informed on Thursday by this body responsible for accreditation of journalists that the work of trainees may not be published curriculum in the paper. The President of the Commission threatened the public with fines that could amount to many thousands of euros for the newspaper to allow young people to finish the upper courses performing acts related to the journalistic profession – how to contact official sources of information. For this State-funded body, this violates the status of Journalist, whereby the Commission accredited professionals are the only ones with "editorial capacity" to make news. Communication Sciences student also of the new University and student leader, Pedro Rebelo Pereira see also with bad eyes the Commission portfolio: "it's a tremendous injustice we can't sign. If only we can do exercises, we won't learn much ". In the opinion of the Director of the Business Journal, Helena Garrido, young people trying to enter the labour market are, in fact, the main disadvantage: "In the name journalism is our main asset. If a trainee curriculum can no longer do whatever it takes, this leads us to question the need to have them in the essays " Publico What does this mean? It is an often repeated story when the old President has fallen off his horse. Europe was for the young and the old Anti-Europeans are also against the youth! duncan124: More austerity for Portugal?? "OECD calls for more austerity, PM says now not time to comment The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has called on Portugal to lower income tax on social security contributions on worker’s wages, increase the minimum salary and hike VAT and environmental taxes. These recommendations were made by the organisation’s chairman Angel Gurría during a presentation yesterday of an extensive report on the current economic situation in Portugal. But Portugal’s Prime Minister Pedro Passos Coelho preferred not to discuss additional austerity, saying only he was in agreement with the proposal to increase the minimum wage." Portugalnewsonline. Publico is still running the Opel advert. Adverse comments by wireclubbers may cause account deletion. The lack of confidence in the Portuguese authorities is clear as well as the proposed Franco style increase in voters wealth. duncan124: "Mass protest planned for Lisbon" "The CGTP trade union has called a protest march for this afternoon in downtown Lisbon in which thousands of disgruntled workers and pensioners are expected to participate. Mass protest planned for Lisbon The demonstration will start at 2.30 pm at two separate points in the capital, with civil servants gathering at the Marques do Pombal while private sector workers will assemble at Cais do Sodré before heading off to Parliament. The marches have been called in protest against the revision of labour laws and cuts to pensions and wages."Portugalnewsonline The stalling protest movement restarts. The long time without public protest may have be caused by the fact that in Portugal not all the time can can many people do something together. And in to the pause rushed the German media with its Opel adds. In Poland when the Germans tried the samething they increased the price of money as Poland was no longer upholding its agreements. So the Portuguese President was prevented once from one of his international scams do to the price of money changing after he had set out! duncan124: Did Portugal cause this unseasonal change in the weather?? Portugals govt is known to be experimenting with its ability to whack the air at people across Europe.? The long streaks of rain cloud seem to be coming from Iceland and Greenland. Is Portugals Atlantic wave power blowing across the former Germany and causing it to suck downwards? duncan124: " With a deal, expect Steps European funds are well spent " PEDRO CHRYSOSTOM 7/16/2014-18:22 "Exchanging funds 21 billion euros. Negotiations were completed a few hours before the European Council this Wednesday." "After a marathon of negotiations in recent days, the Portuguese Government and the European Commission closed on the afternoon of Wednesday, in Brussels, the partnership agreement on the new community support framework which will be in force until 2020, succeeding the current National Strategic reference framework (NSRF)."Publico.pt Portugal sucks at the Brussels!! Publico repeats old ' scare ' news that Portugal has found a bailout buddy in the EU. As the news includes the old complaint that EU funds were being used to improve the roads to select peoples private homes it is another fake item from the German owned press. duncan124: "Among their European peers, Portuguese citizens rank as the most fed up and miserable with 52% fearing that the impact of the recession is still to worsen according to an opinion poll released by the European Commission. Furthermore, the Portuguese manage to massively outstrip the negativity of their European peers with a whopping 96% of nationals deeming the economic situation “bad” and outstripping Greece and Spain and well above the European Union average of 63%. Finally, the Portuguese also manage to statistically outpunch their fellow Europeans as regards their disdain for their own government with a huge 85% expressing little or no confidence in the state – against a 68% European average – with the country’s European credentials becoming more 'anything but ourselves' as 33% back the European Union as better positioned to take effective anti-recession measures than their own government against a European Union average of 24%." Portugalnews duncan124: Big Bessie sounds across Europe. " The Bank of Portugal decided to split the BES between a "good" Bank and a "bad Bank". The first is with the assets and good credit quality and the second is with the toxic assets, as the credits of dubious quality that the Bank gave the holdings of the Espirito Santo family. The "good Bank" is in the hands of the Resolution Fund and the "bad Bank" is in the hands of the more than 30 thousand current shareholders of BES, who receive a liability that will hardly convert someday in cash. Is a financial engineering that, despite dropping shareholders, safeguarding the depositors ' money. And has an advantage of trying to somehow separate the sovereign risk of the banking risk. To borrow money to Fund resolution (and not the BES directly), the State can incur losses minimized in the future and keeps the money borrowed has to be counted as a deficit."Publico.pt duncan124: This is a good bank because it did as the Govt did. "The Government decided, at the same time, inject 4.9 billion euros of public funds in the BES good, IE in the new Bank, using the Resolution Fund. But as the Resolution Fund has few hundred of millions of euros, the remaining funds (more than four billion), will the Government get it Recapitalisation Fund that is part of the package of the troika, which has been so costly to the pocket of the Portuguese and the country (unemployment, cuts in salaries and pensions, education and health, tax increase, etc.). The Government says that the BES good won't bring costs to the State, because their sale in the future will make it possible to carry out public money now invested. But it doesn't say that, if the sale does not allow to perform the public amount now invested (and it is important not to forget that the BPN, where the State has invested more than seven billion euros, was sold for scarce 40 million), there will be the Caixa Geral de Depósitos, i.e. the public purse in view of the responsibility that this Bank has the Resolution Fundto ensure the loss of the precious resources of the country. It is true that, in this Manichean logic of big business, there are two BES: BES BES and bad. Only that, contrary to Government propaganda, the BES will continue to be the good Bank, which, with the magnanimous help of the State, the great financial capital will continue to use it for his speculative and corrupt practices. And the BES bad, in many cases, could mean the extinction of thousands of jobs, loss of deposits and savings of thousands of depositors, liquidation of small shareholders (tricked and deceived by false advertising), the lack of support for small and medium-sized enterprises and to public investment. Reason has the CFP while defending the recovery for the State of the financial sector and other companies and strategic sectors. This Yes, a good Bank."Avante.pt (Edited by duncan124) duncan124: Big hole and bursting scandal. "PARTY, FIGHT ALTERNATIVE" "The new episode in the scandalous process BES/GES shows once again the true predatory nature of big business, making ' pay – as denounced the PCP-to workers and to the Portuguese people the cost of speculation and harmful management of major financial groups, developed and nurtured over the years with the connivance of the Governments and of the supposed regulators». «After the hole in the BPN, of recapitalisation with public money in the BCP, BPI and BANIF», the bursting of this scandal in the financial area, will lead the Portuguese State the provision of huge amounts of public money to plug this hole, although the Government and the Bank of Portugal, in a regrettable operation of mystification, say otherwise. Situation that, beyond all other consequences, brings associated with threat of dismissal of thousands of workers from the Group and the Bank. Another decision contrary to national interests which renews support for financial capital and its speculative and corrupt practices, rather than providing funds for supporting the activities of small and medium-sized enterprises, the promotion of economic activity and public investment. Avante.pt,Opinion. (Edited by duncan124) duncan124: Calling Mr Raider! Portugals problem is that it is not the first time it has tried this tactic of busting a bank to destroy the investors and profit from the other savings. It was Portugal official policy in its former African colonies and it was supported while doing it by the USA. Exposure and debunking of Portugals actions in African banks caused the resignation of Federal Reserve chiefs. duncan124: 'HVAC Technician' (That's air conditioning) "Sizewell B is a nuclear power station on the Suffolk Coast, it is the only pressurized water reactor plant in the UK. Following a recent acquisition our clients have over 15000 employees and a turnover of close to £1Billion. There new business offering will operate across Energy Service, Technical Services, FM and Business Process....." ...turnover of close to 1 bailout billion!! duncan124: " The State's exposure to the crisis in the BES came to surpass the 10,000 million euros" SERGIO ANIBAL "In addition to the Resolution Fund loan and emergency credit from the Bank of Portugal to BES, the State assured in the past three issues of BES's debt worth 3500 million euros, which will now have to be depreciated." Publico The German press try to have a field day with the numbers. The Bank of England put the figure at around 2.421 billion and Avante.pt ran an editorial using those figures. But that is not the story. The main concern about Europe is what are the Germans in local Govt going to do. Gentle reader there is no Sizewell outage and the billion was a boast by forces in East Anglian that they have contole to pay wages and ' make ' money. | Politics Chat Room 26 People Chatting Similar Conversations |