Supporting The Troops (Page 5)

OCD_OCD: Tell me he doesn't want to destroy Israel.

Comrade_: What do you fathom will happen after the 'ifs' are done?

I don't agree with any organisation (or country) getting involved detrimentally into another, UN/US.

OCD_OCD: Then are you equally opposed to China assisting N. Korea and Russia assisting Syria and Iran in their pursuit of weaponry with the ability to destroy massive amounts of people?

OCD_OCD: There is a difference between attempting to stop the violence and assisting it.

I believe that a target strike against Iran's nuclear capabilities would be preferable to the annihilation of Israel. Iran has said that they want to annihilate Israel and they are working towards having the means to do so.

Comrade_: Yes as much as I'm equally opposed to US assisting dictators and selling weaponry, but not forgetting their support to Syria in times past. Do you equally oppose this?

Comrade_: Attempting to stop violence with violence hmm...ok then.

OCD_OCD: I am against any regime that murders their own people for the sake of maintaining power. I am against any dictators, religious zealots or tyrants who want to murder any ethnic or religious faction in their own country or any other country.

I am not opposed to arming people of a country who are being systematically exterminated by their government. Fighting for your life is a necessity. Killing to keep your political and/or religious power is not.

OCD_OCD: And you would stop a nuclear attack with what, Jack? Angry words? Recriminations?

Comrade_: You're aware of Bahrain's dictator who's army slaughtered some protesters some time ago? Heard they got a weapon deal from Washington. Guess some peace-speeches are based on convenience? idk..who knows

Comrade_: I like how you added that last part to come back with a nuclear point, well done. My statement to stop violence with violence is simple on the topic of selling arms to which side is more preferable to you with a cloak of saying it is to stop violence, when other countries that you're snubbing do the same thing.

OCD_OCD: Iran has made its intentions crystal clear. They have the will to annihilate Israel. They are working toward having the means to do so.

Would your stance be that it is better to allow the murder of millions for the sake of not seeming to be a bully and taking away Iran's ability to cause the murder of millions?

OCD_OCD: I have no knowledge of the specific incident in Bahrain. We were talking about Iran, were we not?

Comrade_: Jeez OCD you're jumping around today, did you read what I state? My stand is not allowing an unstable 'hunch' to start what would be a start of a deep war.

Comrade_: No we were talking on countries arm other countries who slaughter their citizens, you should read up on it, I can post links if you want...though I don't see why you're surprise this is not the first dictator backed...

OCD_OCD: I believe it is more than a "hunch".

davidk14: .

Jack,

So, when Israel brings to the table ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence that Iran does have a working bomb or two or three, then you would support Israel in taking out those sites? Yes or no?

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OCD_OCD: And this was my answer to you on countries arming other countries who slaughter their citizens:

OCD_OCD: I am against any regime that murders their own people for the sake of maintaining power. I am against any dictators, religious zealots or tyrants who want to murder any ethnic or religious faction in their own country or any other country.

I am not opposed to arming people of a country who are being systematically exterminated by their government. Fighting for your life is a necessity. Killing to keep your political and/or religious power is not.

OCD_OCD: You jumped around to an incident in Bahrain, not a targeted systematic slaughter.

Comrade_: OCD, so you are ok with the army slaughtering protesters or is it that you're just oppose to systematic slaughter?

Comrade_: @Davidk:
JackEthan: So you'd not support Israel "when" there is no absolute verified evidence found? I want to confirm since you worded your answer strangely.

Comrade_: You're in objection to backing/supporting dictators (not just Bahrain's but others in the past, there is a list we already know this), by the US or by everyone (China, Russia, etc) INCLUDING the US?

davidk14: .

Jack,

I have been cyrstal clear and consistent....I am supporting Israel in not bombing Iran since there is NO ABSOLUTE evidence that Iran currently has a working nuclear device..


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OCD_OCD: No where did I say that I was OK with an army slaughtering protesters. You jumped from the US supplying arms to people in Syria who are being slaughtered by their own government to an isolated incident of protesters in Bahrain. Does the government in Bahrain always slaughter protesters?

The fact that there was an apparent isolated incident in Bahrain (which is contemptible and condemnable) doesn't mean that it is an ongoing problem, nor does it mean that the US is covertly supplying weapons to the Bahrainian government in order to murder protesters. It's apples and oranges, Jack.

Comrade_: "So, when ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence is found that Iran does not have a working bomb or two or three, then you would cease to support Israel in bombing Iran? Yes or no?

Was the question Davidk, now: you'd not support Israel "when" there is no absolute verified evidence found? Yes/No

Comrade_: OCD, I made no mention of the US supplying arms to people in Syria, I made mention of the US past backing of the Syrian Government. And I made reference to the US supporting the dictator of Bahrain and selling arms to them. Killing of protesters are the same "killing", whether you see it as that or not, whether you see it as 'oh ok that was one case, I'd be ok with it so long as it's not a mass killing'. The point is these countries including yours do support very disgusting Governments, Governments either dictators or ones who violate human rights. They are supplying the Government with arms openly, just as other countries are, whether those 'arms' are used to kill a populace is not important, support is support. Just as you want to say you don't support China for supplying any country with arms, the same you have to say with your own country, OCD. You think anyone of them cares what is done with the weapons? It is being sold and that's it.