Supporting The Troops (Page 4) Comrade_: Too bad your comment had no hints of " if's " , I guess that's one of the many drawbacks of hindsight.  davidk14: . I put the 'if's' in it because they are IF's since the future has not been written. However, evidence is evidence and even you can not bury your head in the sand with the amount and types of evidence there is. Yes, we can hope for the best, but Israel must take the evidence and act on it. So far, the duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. However, Israel is doing a "DNA" on the duck to make sure, the duck is a duck. If they had the absolute evidence, they would have launched an attack already. The Iraqi nightmare was a textbook case for absolute verification before acting. . Comrade_: //The sooner Iran gets a nuke, the sooner Israel will destroy Iran with the help of the US and many others bombing the crap out of Iran. Your comments are in support of a terrorist regime who supports terrorism which would actually use a nuke as a form of terrorism. Millions would die for those that believe that death is better than life. . 1 hour ago • Report // hmm nope, still no hints of "If's". Iran has as many innocent lives as Israel, IF you state there is no absolute evidence then don't tell me shit about bombing innocent ones. Seems simple enough. davidk14: . Iran has a population of 75 million. Israel has a population of 5 million. Perhaps you should not support the Iranian terrorist regime who IS the bully who has proven multiple times to be a terrorist organization, supporting world wide terrorism. There is evidence of Iran working to build a bomb....ABSOLUTE evidence. There is no evidence that they HAVE a working bomb. Israel will not wait until they load the bomb or bombs on missiles or load the bombs into a submarine headed to Tel Aviv, If you think they are going to wait for a detonation before responding, you are mistaken or perhaps you just might be an idiot. If you were responsible for Israel's defense, would you wait? . Comrade_: I support the citizens who go about their lives, not your sick hate. Davidk says: "If they had the absolute evidence, they would have launched an attack already" Jack says: "IF you state there is no absolute evidence then don't tell me shit about bombing innocent ones. " Davidk says: "There is evidence of Iran working to build a bomb....ABSOLUTE evidence." Stick to one point Davidk, I addressed what you said so don't turn around and add more to it. Attacking is not defence, and Iran's civilian population is not to be part of your "If's" and your bombing to smithereens. Get a grip.  OCD_OCD: Jack, do you not think that the hate speech and threats to annihilate Israel is aimed at every single Jew in Israel? davidk14: . Jackie boy, IF and WHEN Israel attacks Iran, they will attack the sites building nukes. They will not attack population centers. On the other hand, Iran will attack civilian population centers. Big difference. So, when Israel brings to the table ABSOLUTE evidence that Iran does have a working bomb or two or three, then you would support Israel in taking out those sites? Yes? . Comrade_: OCD, I view all hate speech the same, but the hate speeches are not done by the ones who will really pay for it all, I'd not justify Davidk's or anyone on either side's hate speech in any means. And yes I am concern over the citizens of Iran. Davidk if you don't understand then you never will, you think that all will be peachy after bombing Iran with nothing substantial? You think that ey there will be a tea party after...nothing in this situation is black and white. OCD_OCD: I seriously doubt that Israel will be bombing Iran willy-nilly. A surgical strike to take out their nuclear capabilities, yes. But I'm not so sure that anyone working towards arming Iran with nuclear capabilities is all that innocent. Comrade_: Too bad I don't have that faith you do. Iranians living their normal lives are not, and the "nuclear capabilities" is not a synonym for nuclear weaponry. And what do you think will happen next, OCD? davidk14: Jack, No sidestepping.... So, when Israel brings to the table ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence that Iran does have a working bomb or two or three, then you would support Israel in taking out those sites? Yes? OCD_OCD: Ahmadenijad has made it clear that he wants to annihilate Israel. He's not going to do that by turning off their electricity, Jack. He can't do it by an invasion because he knows the US and other countries will put boots on the ground to repel him. He has one shot and if he gets the chance to smoke Israel with a nuke, he will do it. Why won't you believe what Ahmadenijad has said he will do. Do you think he is joking? Comrade_: Davidk, you've changed your 'if's' to 'when' on what basis? No sidestepping, I comment on the current situation not on a fantasied one. I'll leave that for you to do. Comrade_: He also said he is not making a nuclear weapon, now should I believe that also? I ask again, what do you think will happen after? Comrade_: What is your scenario and plans after OCD, after you've (if) bombed Iran based on what Davidk says 'no absolute evidence'? Mentally what you've grasp would happen? davidk14: . jack, Why won't you take a side? So, when Israel brings to the table ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence that Iran does have a working bomb or two or three, then you would support Israel in taking out those sites? Yes or no? . Comrade_: Answer this though Davidk: "So, when ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence is found that Iran does not have a working bomb or two or three, then you would cease to support Israel in bombing Iran? Yes or no? OCD_OCD: In his own words: August 17, 2012 "The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if the Zionists remain on one span (more like inch) of the Land of Palestine is dangerous, because they will come to have a legal and official government." "A new Middle East will definitely take shape, but with the grace of God and the help of the nations in this new Middle East, there will be no American or Zionist presence in it." (Speech in Tehran marking annual Iran Quds Day protest against Israel's existence) Comrade_: You've not answered the question though OCD, and hmm the UN? Weren't you calling the UN a waste or something in another thread or do you have faith in them all of a sudden... OCD_OCD: January 3, 2012 "Zionists, who have no faith in religion or even God, now claim piety and intend to take away the Islamic identity of the Holy Quds. This ridiculous move is in fact the continuation of the colonialist polices of oppressors, which will not save the Zionist regime, but also take the regime closer to the endpoint of its existence." (Speech to a delegation from the Turkish-Palestinian Parliamentary Friendship Group) davidk14: . Jack said: Answer this though Davidk: "So, when ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence is found that Iran does not have a working bomb or two or three, then you would cease to support Israel in bombing Iran? Yes or no? David responds: I am supporting Israel in not bombing Iran since there is NO ABSOLUTE evidence that Iran currently has a working nuclear device. David continues: Now, Jack, answer my question, When ABSOLUTE VERIFIED evidence is found that Iran does have a working bomb or two or three, then you would support Israel in bombing Iran? Yes or no? . Comrade_: So you'd not support Israel "when" there is no absolute verified evidence found? I want to confirm since you worded your answer strangely. OCD is yet to state her thoughts on 'what next'... OCD_OCD: I have no faith in the UN. The UN seems to want a one world authority where some supposed tribunal will set the scale for what will be taken from one country and given to another. I do not want a world bank, nor a socialist global economy. The UN has faith in themselves and their fact-finding. To the extent that many countries are involved and IF Iran submits to their weapons inspectors, then there might be some truth come out of it. But merely accepting Iran's word means nothing. OCD_OCD: October 10, 2009 "The Zionist regime wants to establish its base upon the ruins of the civilizations of the region...The uniform shout of the Iranian nation is forever 'Death to Israel.'..." (As quoted by Fars News Agency) June 3, 2007 "With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine . . . By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future." (Speech, as quoted by the Fars News Agency) December 12, 2006 "Thanks to people's wishes and God's will the trend for the existence of the Zionist regime is downwards and this is what God has promised and what all nations want…Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out" (Comments to Iran's Holocaust Conference) October 26, 2005 "Israel must be wiped off the map … The establishment of a Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world . . . The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of the war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land." (In an address to 4,000 students at a program titled, 'The World Without Zionism' (Edited by OCD_OCD) | Politics Chat Room 41 People Chatting Similar Conversations |