Syria's Torture Machine (Page 4) XxDaddyDemonTakerxX: Hafez Alassad Right hand and the minister of Defense for all his life years was Major General Mustafa Tlaas ... who is Sunni muslim ...during the rule of Hafez and now Bashar none of the prime ministers were Alawi muslims ... all of the prime ministers were Sunni ... most of the ministers and Parlemant members are Sunni ... so where are the Alawi rule ? just because Bashar is from an Alwai city doesnt mean he favorits Alawi over sunni ...unlike saddam who never had shia prime minister or a shia defense minister .... not our subject tho ... no matter how you try to picture it RussAus ... you wont change the truth ... only if you want the president to supress the ALAWI muslims so you will feel better XxDaddyDemonTakerxX: as for gingysince you are so exited about whats going on here ,... I will wish you one thing .. I wish your country sinks in chaos and armed groups rebel against your state ... I hope they start killing your ppl and when you try to defend your self and when your police forces and army tries to defend you to be accused of being criminals .... but be assure .. we wont support an armed uprising killing innocent ppl because no matther what ... we are not like you ..  gingy1957: WTF???? The only thing I'm interested in is Peace and I certainly don't want anyone, including you to be harmed by anyone.  Serabi: I subscribe to Avaaz - an organisation looking at all injustices all over the world, political, human and animal rights as well as the ecology. ● Avaaz has identified and verified the location of 416 detention centres being used by the Assad regime to imprison and torture regime opponents, a portion of which are listed below. Those locations can be found at this map: http://disappeared.avaaz.org/ detentioncentres.html ● More than 617 people have been confirmed killed under torture by regime forces since the crackdown started on March 15 of last year. ● Bashar al-Assad’s crackdown on Syria’s popular uprising has claimed at least 6,874 victims and seen a further 69,000 people detained over the course of the last nine months. ● Of the 69,000 detained since March, over 37,000 people remain in detention and some 32,000 people have been released, many of them bearing scars from torture and violence. ● Detention centres are managed by various government security bodies, including the Political Security, Military Security, State Security, and Airforce Intelligence. This report presents the organisational structure and detention centre locations within each province. ● Torture is prevalent and takes place in almost all detention centres. Most severe forms of torture take place in the military, security and air force intelligence branches where victims are interrogated before they are sometimes transferred to prisons. Most former detainees have reported that conditions in prisons are less terrible than those of state branches, as they receive some food in prisons. Aside from torture, many of the detainees gave information about severe overcrowding. ● In addition to the listed prisons, there are several locations for illegal, make-shift detention centres, including local schools, soccer fields, movie theaters, hospitals, factories, sport stadiums, warehouses, abandoned buildings, and underground storage areas. There are individual military detention facilities on every single military base in Syria. Serabi: The above research was conducted by 23 human rights researchers inside and outside Syria. The names and locations of detention centres were initially cited by survivors, family members and friends interviewed in connection with Avaaz’s ongoing work to verify disappearances and casualties in Syria, which included information on illegal detention and death under torture. The work of confirming death tolls is conducted by 58 monitors across Syria. On the basis of this primary information and statements from victims of torture and illegal detention, the research team drew up a list of detention centres and torture techniques. The team then verified the data on detention facility locations, descriptions and torture techniques by comparing them with other detainee statements and intersecting the data by interviewing numerous torture survivors and former detainees who had been released from the same locations and had faced similar accusations. The team also interviewed recently-released former prisoners of conscience (who had been detained prior to the uprising) and documented information they had received from detainees. The names of officers involved in torture (including ordering detention in facilities where torture occurred; ordering torture; or giving on-site, direct orders to torture), or signing orders for executions of defected soldiers, came minimally from 11 eyewitnesses, including at least one former member of the military. In three cases, 27 eyewitness provided evidence on the names of officers who ordered their detention and torture. Confirmation from insider sources working for the regime was used to confirm information about torture and detention facilities but not to research individual names. The research was conducted in Arabic then translated to English. Three local organizations contributed information which Avaaz independently verified. XxDaddyDemonTakerxX: by the way all human rights organizations only take the opposition reports but never take the state reports or at least compare then to what the goverment says ... for example last month human rights watch said that oppositions gave them a list of 1600 civilian killed by the army .. turned out that 800 of them were police officers and were listed as opposing civilians ... im not saying there are no mistakes made by the goverment .. but there are 2 things here ... we have a president who is reforming the country and giving liberties .... and we have a racist opposition who wants to rule at any cost ... an opposition which is promosing to discriminate minorities already ... and by the way .. do you even think if the regime is gone there will be democracy here ? havent we seen lybia ? ... didnt the human rights watch said over 8000 were captivated for the cuse of being supporters for Ghaddafi ... they are just supporters .. they werent fighting for him ... despite all the bad things this regime has ...I see his goods are more than his bads ... I have studied all my life here and I didnt pay a cent ... if I get sick I get treated fully on the goverment expense .. I dont pay athing either ... my cousin had a very advanced level of cancer ... she got treated chemically and surgically and ray treatments ... she only paid 300 $ .... outside syria it will cost you at least 10000 $ ... in syria no body dies of hunger ... we might not have the luxury the west have but we have a caring regime who would take care of us ... even if that means the goverment is losing money to support its ppl ...  nellie77: Bashar AlAssad isn't the one killing the soldiers or the innocent civilians in the streets. He isn't the one dismembering them and throwing them into the rivers. He isn't the one shown on video images sawing off the arms of the dead. He isn't the one smuggling weapons into the country to kill, he isn't smuggling drugs into the country to drug his people out of their minds. I should not be the one to keep quiet and be accused of not living in Syria, people like you should be standing aside and not commenting. instead of accusing the President of murdering people, you should be condemning the "revolutionists" that are committing these barbaric murders against the soldiers and the innocent civilians. President Bashar AlAssad has begun his reforms and he has begun the restructure of Syria, isn't that what the "revolutionists" wanted? Then why are they still murdering innocent people? Why are they still smuggling weapons? Why are they burning their country? When someone wants to change something and that change has begun, then they have no reason to be out in the street killing people and burning buildings like some lawless gangs....  nano4fun: PRESIDENT BASHAR ALASSAD WILL BE STRONGER THAN BEFORE... ...........SYRIA WILL BE STRONGER ........  Him_over_there: Don't be so naive Nellie. If you truly care about Syria wake up, smell the rot from those stacked corpses around which you skate so obliviously while whistling your national anthem; as if tolerating holocaust qualified as patriotism. Every genuine Syrian patriot has a duty to defend their nation from this 4 decade-long stifling choke of dynastic oppression. And these very Syrians are risking life and limb in regular demonstrations against those barking dogs of Fascism that ironically don the absurd appellation 'security force'. Syrian 'security forces' engage in routine torture of dissenting civilians Syrian 'security forces' torture unarmed and bound protesters in street http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=VZaLLdRNC2M Only infantile, lumpenproletariat will placidly accept the presence of this al Assad Führer; figurehead of a regime that censors internet access, monitors each and every e.mail for criticism, punishes legitimate dissent with detainment, torture, rape or murder; and that uses children as sacrificial lambs to serve as salient symbols of warning against all opposition. Which is why the best Arabians of their generation are leading the revolutionary uprising, and why the lowest, most parasitical Arabs are cheerleaders of the on-going counter-revolutionary atrocities, and have nothing but praise for a Satanic regime, keeping their heads down amidst a landscape of genocide, cynically, unquestioningly maintaining their positions, within a desperate and corrupt police state.  RussVicAus: 'Stop the violence. Stop killing your people': UN chief warns Assad January 16, 2012 Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/stop-the-violence-stop-killing-your-people-un-chief-warns-assad-20120116-1q1tq.html#ixzz1jg0aipbf RussVicAus: UN chief Ban Ki-moon has urged Syria's Bashar al-Assad to stop killing his own people, saying the path of repression is a "dead end", as Damascus announced a general amnesty for crimes committed during the unrest. "Today, I say again to President Assad of Syria: stop the violence. Stop killing your people. The path of repression is a dead end," Ban said in a keynote address at a conference in Beirut on democracy in the Arab world on Sunday. "The winds of change will not cease to blow. The flame ignited in Tunisia will not be dimmed," he added. Advertisement: Story continues below Warning ... Ban Ki-moon. Photo: Reuters Ban's comments came as Assad announced a general amnesty for crimes committed during the popular unrest that on Sunday entered its eleventh month. "President Assad issued a decree stipulating a general amnesty for crimes committed during the events between March 15, 2011 and January 15, 2012," the official SANA news agency reported. It said the amnesty covered infringements of the law on peaceful demonstrations, the possession of unlawful weapons and army desertion. Under fire ... Syria's President Bashar al-Assad. Photo: Reuters The opposition Muslim Brotherhood dismissed the amnesty - the third of its kind since the uprising began - describing it as "neither serious nor credible". "The regime is trying to make its unrealistic plans for reconciliation and national dialogue credible, and it is in this context that it is making such announcements, for propaganda purposes," the group said. Releasing prisoners is one of the key conditions of an Arab League roadmap approved by Syria in November to end the country's crisis, which the UN estimates has claimed more than 5000 lives. Since November, the regime has made a series of announcements of plans to release in all around 4000 prisoners "without blood on their hands". Syria's bloody crackdown on pro-democracy protesters has brought increased pressure from its former allies. NO ONE SHOULD SIT ASIDE AND WATCH. PEOPLE SHOULD STAND UP TO THIS MAD MAN. XxDaddyDemonTakerxX: the truth shall be revealed someday and whether you guys are trying to cover the truth or you really dont know the truth ... it will come up and everybody shall know it nano4fun: THE TRUTH IS COMEING FROM SYRIAN PEOPLE WHOM LIVE IN SYRIA.... THE TRUTH IS WE ADORE NOW PRESIDENT BASHAR AL ASSAD... WE LIKE BASHAR AL ASSAD... WE WANT BASHAR ALASSAD.... PLEASE DONT GIVE US LESSONS..ESPESIALLY WHO LIVE OUTSIDE SYRIA...AND YOU KEEP SEEING THE MEDIA WHICH PAID BY MR SLAVE" HAMAD OF QATTAR"  davidk14: . Tell that to the thousand of Syrian citizens killed and injured by the security forces. . nano4fun: ALL THIS CRAP IN ARAB WORLD WERE CREATED IN THE USA WITH SOME WESTERN COUNTRY...FOR MANY REASONS: 1-TO COVER THE FINANCIAL PROBLEM IN THEIR COUNTRIES WICH STARTED 4 YEARS BACK.. 2- TO COVER ALL THEIR FAIL IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN (((IS IRAQ NOW ANY BETTER))).. 3-TO HAVE REASONS TO ENTERFIER IN ARAB COUNTRIES AGAIN AND STEAL IT AS THEY DID BEFORE... 4-TO HAVE NEW REASONS TO SUPPORT ISRAEL AND BLIND THE WORLDS ABOUT WHAT THEY DID IN PALESTIN 5-..... 6-..... ONE DAY YOU WILL SEE THE MAGIC IS CONVERTED TO THE MAKER... nellie77: what ever or who ever is behind trying to bring this country down should be punished, President Assad has taken a very strong position in the past, supporting the resistance in Lebanon, Iraq and Iran and the idea of a regional alliance against Israel,” he stated. “Certain regional powers – namely Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar – don’t like that.... Him_over_there: Nano. Don't you realise the spontaneous uprisings of the Arab spring are representative of long suffering repression which has been simmering underneath an outwardly calm countenance for decades? Bahrain being the initial domino, paving the way for other neighbouring nations to rid themselves of their own rapacious dictatorships, one by one. Peruse my pictures page. I am a long standing opponent of the U.S. and their artificial Zionist menace of the Middle East, which from its very inception has been built on foundations of theft and violence. But the evils of fanatical Israeli Zionism and of ruthless profit seeking Imperialism cannot be used as an excuse for the acceptance of absolute Syrian despotism. This uprising is not for the sake of western ideals but Syrian freedoms. And it is both ethically and politically wrong to attempt the shielding of one evil empire by counterpoising it against another. the Arab people deserve more than this. Your overwhelming and apparently demented enthusiasm (WE ADORE NOW PRESIDENT BASHAR AL ASSAD... WE LIKE BASHAR AL ASSAD... WE WANT BASHAR ALASSAD.... ) for Basher al Assad is negated a thousand times over by the daily outpourings of grief from families outside of the comfortable Alawite circle of privilege. (women and girls of Homs and Banyas testify that Assad's Storm-troopers gunned down and slay woman, as their lifeless bodies lie bleeding amidst rubble in street) Nellie asks for proof of crimes orchestrated by the Assad regime before she withdraws her support for it. If this is a genuine request one needs only look at recent history, to observe the infamous massacre of Hama City in February 1982, when Hafez al Assad and his brother Rifaat al-Assad surrounded, isolated the exits, then employed air force, artillery and tank bombardment to brutally subvert Sunni dissent, leaving tens of thousands of men women and children dead, and a city raised to the ground. (exiled Hama residents remember the events of February 1982) http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00fwm6h/Witness_The_Hama_massacre_1982/ Now the sins of the Father are being revisited on the populations of this nation by its Son. And those with the capacity to learn from history are standing up to say "No!.. Never again!". Youtube is overflowing with amateur video footage uploaded by protesters amidst the chaos of regime barbarism. While this is largely unavailable inside the heavily censored confines of the Syrian police state, most of the World, Australia included, can freely view the personal, sanguinary testimonies of brave demonstrators, incredulous at the violence being meted out against them; calling on help from the international community, and in the absence of any such support continuing stoically to voice their dissent unassisted. (Edited by Him_over_there) nano4fun: him_over_there please please please dont beleive all this vedios..its created in Qattar and Lebanon.supporting by USA and some western country..MR hamad of Qattar is paying millions to creat short movie like this. if you want really to know the truth watch syrian TV for some hours...if its allowed in your country.. the proplem is the media in syria is very weak...and they are fighting more than 70 profetional channels paid by mr hamad of Qattar.. syrian army is imposing peace and safty for civilians and dont beleive that our army is killing us.. and if the army use what they told u ..the crap in syria will be ended within 2 days... 20 to 30 syrian sodiors and civilians are killed every day by militants and armed guns.. hope you will see the truth the real truth...not the turth which paid media want to show u... anyway. Syria will be stronger by our wise leader...president Assad ... nellie77: Him over there, if you are based in London i hope you are not too close to the Muslim Brotherhood offices, or are you being paid by them?? | Politics Chat Room Similar Conversations |