World forgot Israel’s 9/11 (Page 3)

Mr. Brightside!: Terrorist attacks are done by terrorists no matter what religion they are from Remember the right winger in Norway who killed his own people? In the case of Israel the state the government of Israel is the terrorist. Simple as that. Those who deny it need some intelligence. A country fights with fighter planes with people who have nothing but guns and rockets. Seriously grow up jews! You are the architect of your misery. The muslims and christians and jews were living happy together before the zionist crap you guys brought in. Get the F out.

Jewcy: Hm lets see, so you don't have a problem with israel just with israel's gov ?
then whats with the "grow up jews!" and the "zionist crap" remarks?

Go learn about zionism, i know its so cool to be against israel , but seriously .. open some history book and teach me , what is palestine? tell me about their history ?
Lets blame Israel for the terror in the world .. or lets blame the terrorists for being goddamn cunts.

davidk14: .



Colon,


The cut and paste you recently did is years old. Here is the history of the nutjob Yaakov Teitel…
Oh…and notice that the Israeli judicial system took action. How many times has Hamas or Fatah held their people as accountable?

Yaakov "Jack" Teitel (Born Florida, USA, November 1972) is an American-Israeli Orthodox Jew arrested in October 2009 for his alleged connection to various acts of domestic terror. Teitel moved to Israel in 2000, and has been living since then in the West-Bank settlement of Shvut Rachel.

He was arrested after handing out posters in an ultra-orthodox Jerusalem neighborhood praising the 2009 Tel Aviv gay centre shooting. Israel police revealed that Teitel, who apparently acted alone, admitted a string of terrorist attacks and attempted attacks, including a pipe-bomb attack against Zeev Sternhell, murdering a Palestinian taxi driver and a West Bank shepherd in 1997 and sending a booby-trapped package to the home of a Messianic Jewish family in Ariel. A search of his home revealed a cache of guns and parts used in explosive devices.

Teitel was also suspected of murdering two police officers in the Jordan Valley and confessed to the gay centre shooting, though the police have stated that they are certain he was not involved in either.

On 10 November 2009, the Jerusalem District Prosecutor's office declared that Teitel will be charged with the murdering of the two Palestinians, incitement to racism, deploying explosive devices and sabotage.

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The difference here is that this individual, in Israel less than a 10 years was arrested and is being held accountable and not praised and used as a poster boy as were the murders of the Israeli family by Hamas. Big difference. As I said at the beginning, how many times has Hamas or Fatah held their people as accountable?

As for the rest of the nut jobs you mentioned, they too are being held accountable by the Israeli legal system. Israel is a country of law. They not only hold Palestinians accountable but Israeli citizens are held to the same standards. Just do a little more research before posting.

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Sarcastic Dots: Nah. If a white guy commits an act of terrorism, he is just crazy.

If a dark guy does it then it's an act of terrorism.

Don't be silly, Colon.

davidk14: Colon, one of the differences is, there are no Palestinian terrorists in Palestinian jails.

Sarcastic Dots: Sure, but Palestinians don't attack Palestine, and when they have attacked each other (fatah-hamas), you can bet those political prisoners were arrested or killed,

Breivik was a Norwegian attacking Norway, so he naturally got arrested within Noway. If he committed the act outside of Norway then the Norwegians wouldn't have held him in custody.

This really isn't going to get us anywhere. Both acts of terrorism are still wrong, but they are both unique. Different terrorists need different solutions- In the case of Breivik, he may have seen himself as an ultra-zionist (as do others), but he was acting on behalf of a political ideal rather than a country. Palestinian terrorists see themselves as fighting for Palestine, Breivik saw himself as fighting for conservatism.

davidk14: .

Colon said:


I’m interested in researching if what i read about the torah to be true, i.e. non Jews (gentiles?) basic Talmudic doctrine includes more than a "super-race" complex. It is an "only" race concept. The non-Jew thus ranks as an animal, has no property rights and no legal rights under any code whatever

Hey Colon...I understand where you are wanting to go with this...I think.

Here's my take. I am Jewish. I was raised in a conservative Jewish household and a politically liberal home in the US. I am now politically conservative. Just to clear up background. I married a Christian and raised our three daughters as Christians. My (ex) wife is Hispanic. So I married outside my religion and race.

David responds:

I had a Bar Mitzvah when I was 13 and attended Sunday school as well as Hebrew School. At no time was I taught that the Torah was or had a super race complex. If it was, 6 million Jews would not have been pacifists and led like sheep into the gas chambers. However….never again.

Very simplistically, Judaism is a religion just like any other religion whether it is Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, or any other ‘reasonable’ man made concept of religion. The Torah just like the New Testament or the Quran, can be interpreted as one wishes. These documents are ‘stories’…not law yet some want to live by them. When these documents were written, women were basically for baby making and were second class citizens. Now, does that mean we should abide by those ‘rules’ of those days because the documents say so? Was Jonah really swallowed by a whale? They are documents that one can learn from…or not.


Should we live by the Ten Commandments?

I am the LORD your God, you shall have no other gods before me.

You shall not take the Name of the LORD your God in vain.

Keep holy the Sabbath day.

Honor your father and your mother.

You shall not kill.

You shall not commit adultery.

You shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness.

You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.

You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.

Now, pretty good stuff to live by right? These commandments are hanging in the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

Anything said about whom? For Jews? Christians? Islamists?

Or for all mankind.

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davidk14: .

Those groups who were fighting 'British rule' existed over 60 years ago. Those groups do not exist today.
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davidk14: And with you.

kitty_lover: I've read all this and spent time with people in many places around the world. Every community it seems has been attacked by somebody and fought back. After a while who did what first to whom really doesn't matter. War sucks and we all know it does. Anyone who says they're ready to kill someone is just plain stupid. Peace is not impossible, commit to it and make it happen. I mean, really make an effort man. Not just for your ego, but for everyone. No killing ever justifies another. Why don't get it? Nobody will forget the killer of their brother but we have the capacity to forgive. Skip that part and the cycle starts again. The world wants to lose this way of bleeding kids to death an move on.

cosmo2004: It's time for a reality check my friend...get out of Palestine...it's not your land....the oppressed always fight back...I don't condone it but being Irish I do understand!!! Really the evil of Zionism(not Judaism!!!)has caused this!!

kitty_lover: Yup, zionism / imperialism ... then the cold war ...all the time the people in the region being forced to flee their cities as multi-cultural communities were ripped apart. people are stronger than hate and i'm sure we'll see Beirut, Jerusalem, Istanbul, Damascus thrive again as multicultural entities. Its not weird that hardcore zionists are trying to isolate Israel from this. without hate people like Netanyahu and Lieberman are nothing. this is probably what makes them so dangerous... along with idiots like Sarkozy who was Gaddafi's best mate. people just got to vote them out or toss them out.

RahGuzaR: You guys talking abt people suffering post 9/11, and i wonder how come no one has mentioned the innocent people got killed in Afganistan ang Iraq and still getting killed every day.

Please start thinking on the grounds of pure humanity, Any innocent who had got killed in US, Afganistan, Iraq, Somalia or any where in this world was a human life who had nothing to do with what US wants from Afganistan or any other country,

I agree with you Cosmo, get out of the palestine and for US get your forces out of Afganistan, Iraq and stop interferring in others matter then we all will see who stops peace from spreading all over the world.

FourWishesGenie:
Don't you have better things to do than arguing about out who out of all people on this planet suffered and still suffers the most?

It's disgusting how some poeple actually only have love and sympathy for their own people.

It's almost like everyone wants to have the role of the biggest victim.
You should be ashame.

People like you belong living in Somalia for a year or so, try to survive there for more than a day and then maybe you'll stop crying bout the little meaningless issues you have.