McDonalds (Page 20) LiptonCambell: >>> You are allowed on here to admit you were mistaken and I was. Great. And so was I- i thought pink Slime was being sold in Canada. I didn't realize that there was that distinction between McDonald's Canada and the US. Although, at the time that video was made, McDonald's had ceased putting it in the US food as well.... >>>because the law doesn't allow it. Not true. The law does allow it, only no business's attempted to use it, and thus, it hasn't been processed through health canada. " But according to Health Canada, which regulates food additives, it is not allowed in this country. “Ammonia is not permitted in Canada to be used in ground beef or meats during their production,” the agency said in a statement. The reason is apparently that no one has asked to use it. “Health Canada requires that all food additives undergo a pre-market safety evaluation,” the agency said. “Ammonium hydroxide added to meat … would be regulated in Canada as a food additive. Therefore, Health Canada would need to receive a submission requesting a specific use of ammonium hydroxide in meat products before the substance could be considered for approval.” Health Canada also says that any imported meat must adhere to Canadian rules and standards, meaning LFTB cannot be brought into the country. " ~http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2237256--pink-slime-stops-at-the-49th-parallel/ As far as I can tell, it isn't illegal anywhere. Business's are voluntarily choosing not to use it. >>>Not all bread has Ammonium Sulphite in it. I never said it did. I said it's common. >>>.I mean the blokes that make Johnny Walker whisky once claimed thalidomide was perfectly safe as a cure for women with morning sickness and we all know how that turned out. And that was during a time when there was no food regulations backing up their claims. If we're going to assume that something is bad for you, because once there was shitty regulations, then all hope is lost- it doesn't matter who says what, because once people at raw beef. >>>The fact is that Mcdonalds were quite happy to feed the public what Jamie oliver calls "dog meat" Are you completely throwing out the authority on food safety, because once, 70 years ago, they got something wrong- but insisting an authority on food has it absolutely right and we should take everything he says to heart? Which is it, Jack? Should we trust the authorities, or shouldn't we? >>>If Jamie Oliver hadn't shamed McDonalds then they would still be serving up pink ammonia slime to our children. We still are. Only, you seem to only care if McDonald's does it. You're perfectly okay when other business's and schools do it, apparently...  Outbackjack: You didn't know pink slime wasn't used in Canadian burgers and nuggets? Fair enough but you need to be more sharp my friend or you are putting at risk your monthly retainer from McDonalds. ">>>because the law doesn't allow it. Not true. The law does allow it, only no business's attempted to use it, and thus, it hasn't been processed through health canada. " But according to Health Canada, which regulates food additives, it is not allowed in this country. “Ammonia is not permitted in Canada to be used in ground beef or meats during their production,” the agency said in a statement. The reason is apparently that no one has asked to use it. “Health Canada requires that all food additives undergo a pre-market safety evaluation,” the agency said. “Ammonium hydroxide added to meat … would be regulated in Canada as a food additive. Therefore, Health Canada would need to receive a submission requesting a specific use of ammonium hydroxide in meat products before the substance could be considered for approval.” Health Canada also says that any imported meat must adhere to Canadian rules and standards, meaning LFTB cannot be brought into the country. " ~http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2237256--pink-slime-stops-at-the-49th-parallel/ As far as I can tell, it isn't illegal anywhere. Business's are voluntarily choosing not to use it." HA HA HA HA! What a load of bollocks McLipton.This statement of yours rates right up there with the worst Orwellian Newspeak you have ever sprouted. So basically its illegal unless they apply in Canada to have it scrutinized? Even blind Freddy could understand why McDonalds dont want any scrutiny of this disgusting pink slime. Outbackjack: McDonald's Franchisees Say The Company Is Bankrupting Them McDonald’s franchisees are furious that the company’s aggressive promotions and costly restaurant upgrades are squeezing their profits, according to a new survey. “Growth for McDonald’s is over,” one franchisee wrote in response to the survey by financial services firm Janney Capital Markets. “I am just hoping to be flat,” another franchisee said. “[The] customer has lost faith in the brand.” “We are leaderless,” said a third. A fourth franchisee complained, “They are being successful in bankrupting us.” For the survey, Janney Capital Markets interviewed 32 domestic franchisees representing 256 stores. McDonald’s has more than 14,000 locations in the US. The franchisees surveyed said their same-store sales fell by 3.6% in September. McDonald’s global same-store sales declined 3.7% in August, marking the worst monthly drop in more than a decade. The company, which reports third quarter earnings on Tuesday, has recorded negative same-store sales in the U.S. for the last two consecutive quarters. In an attempt to drive up traffic, the Oak Brook, Ill.-based burger chain has expanded its dollar menu and run several promotions offering free coffee during the morning hours. Outbackjack: A half dozen franchisees said they are counting on the company’s Monopoly promotion to revive sales. “Everything depends on Monopoly,” one franchisee said. “I am counting on Monopoly to stop the bleeding,” said another. Most of the franchisees surveyed were extremely negative about the future of the company. “Nothing positive to say about McDonald’s or its future,” one respondent said. “We just have nothing new to offer our customers,” said another. A third lamented, “Even remodels and rebuilds don’t build sales anymore,” while a fourth said, “Just hoping we’ve hit bottom.” Many complained that the company hasn’t followed through on its promise to simplify the menu. McDonald’s Chief Operating Officer Tim Fenton admitted in January that the company “overcomplicated” the menu “with too many new products, too fast” and “didn’t give restaurants an opportunity to breathe.” “All talk, no action,” one franchisee wrote. “They continue to add more items (and admittedly will add more) even though they talk about reducing the menu. Top management is clueless as to what goes on in the stores.” A second franchisee wrote, “They simplify… and then just add more products. I don’t think that anyone at McDonald’s really has a strong vision for the brand.” Franchisees also complained that costly restaurant upgrades are forcing them into debt. “We must stop the madness of tearing apart or tearing down perfectly good buildings,” one respondent wrote. “The owner/operators can’t handle the debt since there is little sales increase.” Another wrote, “There are many McDonald’s franchisees who took on a lot of debt to improve McDonald’s real estate and now they are waiting for McDonald’s corporate to come to the rescue. They will probably wait too long and end up on the street.” Business insider Australia Outbackjack: While this article was making news in the media.McDonalds sought to release a story to try and block out the coverage that their empire is seriously crumbling. www.pixable.com/article/mcdonalds-australia-uses-flashy-supercars-to-deliver-food-87549/ Ronald McDonald fiddles while Rome burns.  chronology: I remember seeing Morgon Spurlocks 'Supersize Me'. Interesting documentary, Mr Spurlock tried to live on Big Macks or something for 28 days. Like anything, if you over do something you wind up the way you wind up. Outbackjack: You’ll Never Eat McDonald’s Again After Reading These 10 Horrifying Facts Feeling hungry? You may want to read the rest of this article before you head to your favorite fast food restaurant and order your usual chemical and prescription drug-ridden meal. Did you know you’re likely eating crushed beetles and or duck feathers with your fast food burger? Here are some of the most disgusting additives you’re eating when you hit the drive-thru: 1.) Ammonium Sulfate Nothing helps mass-produce bread like ammonium sulfate. Unfortunately, nothing fertilizers soil or kills bugs like it either. Read more about ammonium sulfate and other nasty bread additives here: 5 Dangerous Additives Hidden In Packaged Bread 2.) Silicone Oil Chicken McNuggets are full of dimethylpolysiloxane, a silicone oil that is often used for making contact lenses and other medical items. Learn more about your beloved McNuggets here: The Chicken That Should Be Banned Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/youll-never-eat-mcdonalds-again-after-reading-these-10-horrifying-facts/ More to follow................. electrician25hr: I'll have meal # 1 with a double Mc mac and 2 orders of chicken nuggets with barb q sauce and a large cocaine cola please. And hurry the phuck up I got the munchies real bad like.........  davidk14: . Regarding Chicken McNuggets... As of October 9, 2010, the ingredients within the United States are as follows: Chicken, water, salt, sodium phosphates. Battered and breaded with bleached wheat flour, water, modified food starch, salt, spices, wheat gluten, paprika, dextrose (sugar), yeast, garlic powder, rosemary, partially hydrogenated soybean oil and cottonseed oil with mono- and diglycerides, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda, ammonium bicarbonate, monocalcium phosphate), natural flavor (plant source) with extractives of paprika. Fried in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid). Dimethylpolysiloxane is added as an antifoaming agent. McDonald's ingredients can vary outside of the US. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_McNuggets Regarding Dimethylpolysiloxane... As of October 9, 2010, dimethylpolysiloxane and Tert-Butylhydroquinone (TBHQ) are listed as ingredients in the McNuggets cooking process.[14] According to Lisa McComb, a media relations representative for McDonald's, dimethylpolysiloxane is used as a matter of safety to keep the frying oil from foaming. The chemical is a form of silicone also used in cosmetics and Silly Putty. A review of animal studies by the World Health Organization found no adverse health effects associated with dimethylpolysiloxane. TBHQ is a common preservative for vegetable oils, cereals, nuts, cookies, chips, and animal fats,[15] found in other foods like Girl Scout Cookies[16] and Quaker Chewy Granola Bars.[17] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration sets an upper limit of 0.02% (0.0002) of the oil or fat content in foods,[18] which like other foods, applies to the oil used in McNuggets. Effective use of TBHQ is 1 gram per 5000 grams of cooking oil (1 gram per 11 pounds of cooking oil). Poly-dimethylsiloxane (PDMS) belongs to a group of polymeric organosilicon compounds that are commonly referred to as silicones.[1] PDMS is the most widely used silicon-based organic polymer, and is particularly known for its unusual rheological (or flow) properties. PDMS is optically clear, and, in general, inert, non-toxic, and non-flammable. It is also called dimethicone and is one of several types of silicone oil (polymerized siloxane). Its applications range from contact lenses and medical devices to elastomers; it is also present in shampoos (as dimethicone makes hair shiny and slippery), food (antifoaming agent), caulking, lubricating oils, and heat-resistant tiles. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydimethylsiloxane __________________________________ Jack has every reason to be pissed off. Now for the rest of the story.... Almost every food outlet that has a fryer with oil in it most likely.... ...has this anti-foaming agent whether it be soy, cotton, vegetable oils used in the frying....of anything. YES SPORTS FANS! You heard it hear first. If there is no anti-foaming agent it the oil... ....the life of the oil is cut in half. For those of you that have been fry cooks on Friday Night Fish Fry...remember how pissed off you get when the moron on the previous shift did not change the oil? Yep....crappy fried fish. . . chronology: Sorry Guys, I just like the Burgers, I have nothing bad to say about those places, frankly I've no interest in them. The only complaint I have is that the cups they give you the Coffee in keeps the Coffee hot for ages afterwards. Too hot to drink for at least half an hour. Outbackjack: 3.) Cysteine-L Fast food restaurants use Cysteine-L, an amino acid synthesized from human hair or duck feathers, to flavor their meat and soften their breads and pastries 4.) TBHQ This additive can be found in 18 McDonald’s menu items. It’s potentially lethal, but don’t worry, the FDA says it’s generally regarded as safe (GRAS). Learn more about TBHQ here: The Petroleum Byproduct You Are Most Likely Eating Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/youll-never-eat-mcdonalds-again-after-reading-these-10-horrifying-facts/ davidk14: . It's very obvious that if McDonald's has these chemicals in their food, these chemicals are in all manufactured food. Don't just go after McD...go after the manufacturers and their distributors but also go after the regulators that monitor food safety. . Outbackjack: It is very obvious that corporations like McDonalds own politicians and spend large sums of money lobbying the FDA so they can get away with serving up dangerous food. Have a look at this: http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/mcdonalds-corp/721c64757c11435393edc49bb33d4c96 davidk14: . That's it!!! I'VE HAD ENOUGH!!!! McDonald's needs to go away. So does every single one of those big companies. Get rid of them all!!! While we are at it....let's get rid of all governments as well. They are all just a bunch of racist, money grubbing sons of bitches trying to kill us for what? A few bucks? Get rid of those energy companies, oil companies too!!! They are sucking the life right out of us. ANARCHY! THAT'S THE TICKET!  DON'T SHOP AT THE GROCERY STORE! DON'T BUY GAS! DON'T PAY YOUR ELECTRICITY BILL! PAYING A MORTGAGE? STOP PAYING THOSE FRICKIN WALL STREET BANKERS!!!!!!! STICK IT TO THE MAN!  Editors note: Just kidding.  Solution: Don't eat at McDonald's. Use less energy. Eat healthy. Lose some frickin weight.  . . (Edited by davidk14) Outbackjack: 5.) Propylene Glycol Propylene glycol is a chemical compound that can be found in anti-freeze, e-cigarettes, and that’s right! Fast food! 6.) Prescription Drugs By testing feathers, researchers from Johns Hopkins University found some very interesting characteristics of factory-farm-raised poultry. And you thought the pink slime scandal was bad? Anti-depressants as well as other prescription drugs are added to chicken feed for fast food “poultry” items. That’s right, those McChicken sandwiches and McNuggets come from chickens that were raised on a steady diet of prescription, over-the-counter, and even banned drugs. Learn more about it here: 3 Dirty Chicken Facts Exposed Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/youll-never-eat-mcdonalds-again-after-reading-these-10-horrifying-facts/ Outbackjack: Very good question.If they can detect it in the feathers I dread to think whats in the meat. Outbackjack: Would you like a cow eyeball with your burger? One of the more-enduring urban legends about McDonald’s is that their hamburgers contain cow eyeballs. While this has not proven to be the case, the company's Baked Hot Apple Pie does contain duck feathers, or at least an ingredient commonly derived from such. Truth can be just as strange as fiction. How have duck feathers become a viable ingredient in apple pie? Welcome to the world of food additives. People have been adding flavors, spices, natural preservatives and ripening agents to food since antiquity. But as the popularity of highly processed food has risen dramatically since the 1950s, so has the astounding array of bizarre chemical additives used in food manufacturing. Fast-food recipes seem to be born more from the laboratory than from farm or field. And although the powers that be deem these food-additive chemicals safe, the science fiction of it all is a bit unsettling. How do we come up with these things? Here are some of the wackiest of the bunch. 1. Duck feathers and human hair (L-cysteine) You thought duck feathers sounded bad? How about human hair? These are the two most-common sources for l-cysteine, an amino acid used to condition dough for increased pliability, which facilitates better machine processing. CNN reported that most human-derived L-cysteine comes from Chinese women who help support their families by selling their locks to small chemical-processing plants. Although originally the primary source for L-cysteine was human hair, many manufacturers seem to have moved away from hair-derived L-cysteine and on to the more-palatable duck feathers. According to Jeanne Yacoubou, MS, research editor for The Vegetarian Resource Group, 80 percent of L-cysteine is now derived from feathers. During her research, McDonald’s told Yacoubou that the L-cysteine used in its Baked Hot Apple Pie, as well as its Wheat Roll and Warm Cinnamon Roll, was of the duck-feather variety. Many other fast-food joints rely on L-cysteine in bakery products as well. And not to be sensationalist here, the resultant additive is far-removed from its original source — but still. It may be disturbing to many, and importantly, may fly in the face of ethical or religious dietary restrictions. Read more: http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/stories/8-creepy-mystery-ingredients-in-fast-food#ixzz3IwCHaeWq Outbackjack: 7.) Dimethylpolysiloxane You’ll find this in almost any fried fast food menu item and also in silly putty, contact lenses, caulking, shampoo and conditioners, cosmetics, polishes, heat resistant tiles, and the list goes on… Learn more about Dimethylpolysiloxane by following this link. 8.) Carminic Acid Synthesized by Cochineal beetles, Carminic acid is used to dye foods, especially meats, red. You can learn more about the beetles in your food HERE. Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/youll-never-eat-mcdonalds-again-after-reading-these-10-horrifying-facts/ Outbackjack: 9.) Cellulose You’ll find this organic compound, which is produced from wood pulp, in nearly every fast food menu item. Learn more about cellulose by following this link. 10.) Silicon Dioxide This industrial sand is used in things like Wendy’s chili to keep it from clumping together. Mmm… industrial sand. Learn more about silicon dioxide HERE. Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/youll-never-eat-mcdonalds-again-after-reading-these-10-horrifying-facts/ foosquad: There is nothing "horrific" about carmine, which is produced by the cochineal beetle and has been used as a food colorant for centuries. Similarly, extracting an amino acid from human hair should mean absolutely nothing. A molecule is a molecule is a molecule, and your queasiness does not change that fact. There are many good reasons to boycott McDonald's. We don't have to resort to scientifically illiterate fearmongering for it. | Politics Chat Room 49 People Chatting Similar Conversations |