PAIN jbananaz234: pain pān/ noun 1. physical suffering or discomfort caused by illness or injury. "she's in great pain" synonyms: suffering, agony, torture, torment, discomfort More ache, aching, soreness, throb, throbbing, sting, stinging, twinge, shooting pain, stab, pang, cramps; discomfort, irritation, tenderness mental suffering or distress. "the pain of loss" synonyms: sorrow, grief, heartache, heartbreak, sadness, unhappiness, distress, desolation, misery, wretchedness, despair; More informal an annoying or tedious person or thing. noun: pain in the neck; plural noun: pains in the neck "she's a pain" 2. careful effort; great care or trouble. "she took pains to see that everyone ate well" synonyms: care, effort, bother, trouble More verb verb: pain; 3rd person present: pains; past tense: pained; past participle: pained; gerund or present participle: paining 1. cause mental or physical pain to. "it pains me to say this" synonyms: hurt, cause pain, be painful, be sore, be tender, ache, throb, sting, twinge, cause discomfort; More sadden, grieve, distress, trouble, perturb, oppress, cause anguish to (of a part of the body) hurt. "sometimes my right hand would pain" Origin Middle English (in the sense ‘suffering inflicted as punishment for an offense’): from Old French peine, from Latin poena ‘penalty,’ later ‘pain.’ Translate pain to Use over time for: pain Is pain our penalty for being human? Why so much pain? Why do some people enjoy inflicting pain on others? Or for that matter enjoy receiving pain?  near50ohoh: If you looked at it from a religious perspective, they would suggest the people involved had no conscience. Some humanities would agree with that. But others would suggest the possibility that they are unable to experience pain, due to a brain anomaly, therefore have no concept for it. And not having it they cannot understand it in others. It's an unbearable curiousity for them as a result. Like an itch they cannot scratch and they obsess about it until they have to act on themselves and others to find out what it is. Like a scientist who cannot comprehend the condition they are studying. They keep poking at it till they destroy the object of study. Then again, there really are people who just can't grasp things about people and their moods/sensitivities and err blindly. Like somebody stumbling in the dark. They didn't fully grow up or were not taught to relate well with others. Some people go through life and are rarely tested so they can't grasp that others have bruises (if you will). So they keep poking on a bruise without understanding why it would hurt them but has never caused them any sensitivity. And then there are a rare few who quite enjoy watching someone writhe in pain or beg for it to be meted out to them Who derive sexual pleasure from the experience. Does that help, JB?  jbananaz234: Awwww thanks Near, I find the amount of pain one stumbles on in life certainly adequate (if not overwhelmingly so) without actively seeking more.  jbananaz234: Pain seems to last longer than joy and leaves an indelible mark. Yet no matter how dark the night the sun rises again giving us hope....even when we arent ready or willing to see the light, hope is always there lurking. For eveyone who has pain, suffered loss....you must first endure the pain, the grief, the loss, the desolation, the abandonment, the helplessness, the endless abyss of self-incrimination.... tight, tighter, tightestCry till there are no tears left, rant till there is no breath left..... (Edited by jbananaz234) near50ohoh: the song "And When I Die" by Blood, Sweat and Tears is running thru my head since I woke up jbananaz234: joy joi/Submit noun 1. a feeling of great pleasure and happiness. "tears of joy" synonyms: delight, great pleasure, joyfulness, jubilation, triumph, exultation, rejoicing, happiness, gladness, glee, exhilaration, exuberance, elation, euphoria, bliss, ecstasy, rapture; Sometimes joy is simply the acknowledgement of pain and the choice to look upward, smile and move forward......... May joy find you each and everyday. near50ohoh: to you too. try peace next hun. We're in it for the short term. If you believe in God and an after life, this lifetime is but a second out of eternity. Eternity is love forever, all the blessed people who you kept close here, in your arms eternally.  This week or so that hits home doesn't it? With our mutual friend's issues.  jbananaz234: Good point near! Peace is eternally given, it is up to us to seek it and give our egos up to it. The one thing i have learned is that somewhere, every moment, there is a friend in pain. Some are friends we have not yet met, and most times we are unaware of the specific pain... but NOONE is immune. jbananaz234: peace pēs/Submit noun 1. freedom from disturbance; quiet and tranquility. "you can while away an hour or two in peace and seclusion" synonyms: tranquility, calm, restfulness, peace and quiet, peacefulness, quiet, quietness; More antonyms: noise mental calm; serenity. "the peace of mind this insurance gives you" synonyms: serenity, peacefulness, tranquility, equanimity, calm, calmness, composure, ease, contentment, contentedness More antonyms: agitation, distress 2. freedom from or the cessation of war or violence. "the Straits were to be open to warships in time of peace" synonyms: law and order, lawfulness, order, peacefulness, peaceableness, harmony, nonviolence; More antonyms: conflict a period of this. "the peace didn't last" a treaty agreeing to the cessation of war between warring states. "support for a negotiated peace" synonyms: treaty, truce, ceasefire, armistice, cessation/suspension of hostilities More antonyms: war freedom from civil disorder. "police action to restore peace" synonyms: law and order, lawfulness, order, peacefulness, peaceableness, harmony, nonviolence; More antonyms: conflict freedom from dispute or dissension between individuals or groups. "the 8.8 percent offer that promises peace with the board" 3. a ceremonial handshake or kiss exchanged during a service in some churches (now usually only in the Eucharist), symbolizing Christian love and unity. exclamation near50ohoh: we used to do 3 in the church I grew up in too Yes those are good working definitions for peace. But sometimes peace comes from empathy which you expressed by seeing your friends in pain too. Even when you feel your own pain. That's what makes the difference between a rational person and someone who is narcissistically self absorbed. And acceptance that with life, come pain and pleasure, numbness and intolerance. Nobody escapes them. Nobody gets out alive. God never promised a life with no hardship, He just promised to love and support us through it. I wish i knew where to find the poem "Footsteps". I''ll look again. : jbananaz234: Empathy- the ONE thing we can do to change the world..... Thanks dear near! I am finding it healing as well... jbananaz234: em·pa·thy ˈempəTHē/Submit noun 1. the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. near50ohoh: and all it took was having a different more helpful browser  I FOUND IT. FOOTPRINTS IN THE SAND by Carolyn Joyce Carty http://llerrah.com/footprints.htm the song that plays is "Closer Walk"  Mz Demeanor: There is a Buddhist practice called tonglen (Tibetan for "giving and taking" or "sending and receiving" ) of accepting and embracing pain and suffering for yourself and for others and not running from it. A whole different approach than what we usually want to do which is run the hell away from it and wish it away and hide. "The tonglen practice is a method for connecting with suffering —ours and that which is all around us— everywhere we go. It is a method for overcoming fear of suffering and for dissolving the tightness of our heart. Primarily it is a method for awakening the compassion that is inherent in all of us, no matter how cruel or cold we might seem to be." - Pema Chodron http://www.shambhala.org/teachers/pema/tonglen1.php (Edited by Mz Demeanor) Mz Demeanor: when there's pain and suffering people seem to look to religion or philosophy or ice cream....check out these new ice creams  http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-ben-and-jerrys-new-core-ice-cream-flavors-20140226-photos,0,3838486.story#axzz2uTYo9mdt And, of course, BDSM had to come up in this thread.  near50ohoh:  : yeah for those who are lactose intolerance there are really great tasting alts made of coconut and almond creams. | Philosophy Chat Room 19 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
