Deletion of entire topics (Page 2) anym: " ... can we have the thread back, please?" I'd be happy to see that, with any offensive posts - including mine - removed.  lori100: Can a thread have a near-death experience? Is the thread in another dimension? We may have a whole new topic... anym: "Is the thread in another dimension?" Good question. - I fired a topic in the air; it fell to earth I know not where. "We may have a whole new topic ... " Go for it.  sprocket girl: I have never for the record had a post deleted by a thread host.... Even when I strongly disagree with them. My thinking is if respectful, you can say anything right or wrong.. Hosts delete posts when one gets out of line.(in my experience) I have posted some arrogant things in oposition of Colin and never had them deleted. I would imagine if on topic and not just personal attacks few hosts delete posts. I mean if one deletes everyone who disagrees with them the thread actually dies, so not sure why any host would do this.. (not saying it never happens, I have just not seen it) Never been on the topic which was deleted and am bummed it is gone.. Seems lots of cool people were sharing there.  Mimee_red: To our well meaning Administrators : I am sure the Admin can see for itself the immense support and following this post has. Since many of us become friends here, it is that much easier to follow a topic of interest which is just so obvious. After all it is the counter view that keeps the discussion on and it was not anything that was political or racial. I am sure the Admin notices that a far larger number of 'tamer' topics do not elicit continued interest from its readers. This was definitely one of those that provided food for thought in its content and substance. From a purely 'marketing' point of view, threads on deeper topics add value to the 'thought content' of a website that already has so many competitors. To keep up the popularity of wireclub as an open and unbiased platform and to continue to attract many more contributors, I think this post should be put back at the earliest. Mimee_red  calybonos: All the King's horses and all the King's knaves Couldn't raise deleted threads from their graves calybonos: Unfortunately it won't happen this time. Once a thread has been deleted, it's gone forever.  StarryStarryNight: Are you saying that it won't happen because it's technically impossible or that it won't be restored even if technically possible?  Aura: "Shits and Giggles" I think caly and lois are right though, even if it were possible, which I am not sure about, they won't put the thread back. If they do, it is a precedent for any user to point to who want's their -maybe justified- deleted thread back. And if they promise to be good this time, what grounds would admin have to deny them? The only real option I see is to rebuild it. I told Colin as much. He won't. "Just to see the same thing happen? no thanks"  I think a bit more clarification on the delete option of the thread owner would be helpful. Why give the thread owner the option, if they are going to be punished for using it? If we are to accept the decisions of Wire mods and admin to be final, then that same privilege should be extended to thread owners and room owners. Or alternatively remover the delete/boot option and have every and all disputes settled by Mods/admin. I do fear the second option will result in MORE deleted threads and we really do not want that, so I would think a instruction to mods to ignore complaints of unfair deletion of posts would be the best way to go. Every user is free to start and own their own thread. In fact, some people have used this tactic, since for a while there were multiple "What makes a good man" threads running. And they were all active and (sort of) pleasant. anym: On the theme of owner's ability to delete, the addition of an undelete could be useful. I've sometimes deleted by accident (intending to edit) and would like to have been able to restore. Mimee_red: I still think its unfair to delete entire threads that have been put together with care....that way the site only ends up discouraging serious discussions and the reasons why people contributing to them would log in again and again to read the thread. I sincerely wish the admin would stick to its description of 'inappropriate' by removing only those comments that contain insults and profanities. StarryStarryNight: On the contrary, I feel that NOT restoring the thread back will set a precedence for vandals to crap on threads of people they don't like, complain when their posts get deleted and voila! - the entire thread gets deleted. Frankly, I will never see the rationale behind deleting the entire thread at the expense of the creator and genuine contributors of that thread in favour of a few vandals - who got away scot free at that. Won't this embolden ill-meaning users to crap on threads? Why would anyone want to start any serious discussion if this can happen to them? (Edited by StarryStarryNight) anym: "Setting precedents" is a red herring. Nothing is a precedent unless you choose to treat it as such. Neither good nor bad decisions have to be repeated.
(And as an ex- haggis basher / oatmeal savage I resent that scot-free phrase; without the capital 'S' too!!) Just kidding, mostly StarryStarryNight: Hehe, sorry Anym And I always thought that an investigation will be done before a drastic step like deleting an entire thread. But it seems that nobody was contacted - not the creator of the thread and not the users (vandals) who complained about their posts being deleted. Strange how quick the decision can be made to delete a thread that took months of building from the creator and genuine contributors. Shouldn't the creator be contacted at the very least as a sign of courtesy and respect for the efforts he has put into his thread? Shouldn't he get a chance to explain the activities on his thread before taking the decision to delete it? I am very disappointed on how the matter was handled. And more so, if nothing is done despite the unfairness of it all. StarryStarryNight: And Anym, I just learnt that the "scot" in "scot-free"refers to a tax or toll. No reference to Scotland  and therefore, no need for a capital S. Hehe! anym: firststep, please enlighten me about that tax or point me towards the light. And I'd answer yes to your questions in the previous post.  cowpoker: Is that because the Scots were too tight to pay the tax?  But back on topic.. where do we sign the petition to restore the thread? Plenty of people have said they want it back, but perhaps it's not official until we present signed paperwork. anym: I had a good joke-response about tight Scots but it would be considered racist or anti-some-other-group . Glad most of us can take a joke, at least in private. But public use of stereotypes is not permitted, although they are the basis of much humour - especially if it's tongue-in-cheek laughing at their very existence; whole other subject! I don't know anything about petitions on here, but the stony silence of admin on the issue of whole-thread deletion suggests they couldn't care less. StarryStarryNight: The deletion of the thread was done by the forum mod. I don't think she checked with Admin before deleting the thread. Admin had told Colin that he doesn't think Colin has done any wrong. While Admin is not responsible for the deletion of the thread, he is the overall person in charge of the site. And I believe he should try to right the wrong done by the forum mod - the forum mod who incidentally hasn't apologized to Colin for her rash action.   Wireclub Admin: To clarify this situation, what I actually meant is that while I don't hold Colin responsible for it, that thread had gone way past the the deletion threshold because it contained several 'bad' posts by other members. So it doesn't matter who deleted it because it was supposed to be deleted. It is sad when conversations go bad, and it is even sadder when we have to delete good content because some people don't know how to behave politely online calybonos: I had a friend who lost everything in a tornado. Everything, that is, except his life. He became a storm chaser - a successful one. Too successful. I had a friend who found everything in a tornado Everything, that is, except his life. He died pursuing his demon. | Off Topic Chat Room Similar Conversations |
