9 11------ The Planned Govt Crime and Con on the Public (Page 62)

lori100
lori100: A Scripps-Howard poll of 1,010 adults last month found that 36% of Americans consider it "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that government officials either allowed the attacks to be carried out or carried out the attacks themselves. Thirty-six percent adds up to a lot of people. This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality. Although the 9/11 Truth Movement, as many conspiracy believers refer to their passion, has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, it is flourishing on the Internet."
-- Time Magazine, 9/6/06
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schizoidfrenic
schizoidfrenic: Attacks werent allowed. There was no plane that hit the pentagon. Since the video of the incident was released, anyone curious can see there was no plane. It doesnt take much research to see that.
(Edited by schizoidfrenic)
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lori100
lori100: Try telling that on here....
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Eagster
Eagster: Americans slowly but surely are waking up to what's going on, just look at the truther Cspan movement
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lori100
lori100: True Eagster
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear girl, here we go again. 50pc of Americans also believe in Aliens piloting UFOs.

Now let us see how much proof there is for Aliens visiting Earth inside UFOs, hmmmmm zero, nil, zilch, ''nuffiinck'. So without any proof at all, no evidence whatsoever.

Yes Lori, not a single credible photograph, not a scrap of hair or fabric, not a landing site, nothing, but 50pc of Americans say 'yes' Aliens are piloting UFOs.

Same with 911, no proof at all for the speculations, just pure speculations, but hey it may have been Aliens who did 911?

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dave3974
dave3974: just one piece of claer evidence is all that is needed
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xapim
xapim: and we have "nuffinck"
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lori100
lori100: There is lots of evidence and witness testimonies about ufos and aliens...I have posted lots of it........there is lots of evidence about 911 was planned by the govt....some refuse to admit it...and what do the doubters say about the govt's former plots of crashing planes into buildings, shooting citizens, even killing an astronaut to get into a war with Cuba by blaming it on them...?--------sound familiar? --Operation Northwoods----what do the doubters have to say about that?
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chronology
chronology: Lori .......... over and over again your 911 conspiracy theories have been irrefutably debunked here on Wire every time you post them, over and over again. But you keep on posting them, and when you are challenged to reply, you just go off and change the subject.

But Lori my dear girl, let us for the umpteenth time ask you to answer a question about your conspiracy theories.

Lee Oswald had proven (if entirely self appointed) connections with the Peoples Republic of Cuba, he was a proven supporter of Mr Castro, he even visited the Cuban Embassy weeks before he shot JFK. If the United States was serious about such plans as North Woods, then why did they not invade Cuba after Oswald shot JFK? such a response was handed to Washington on a plate, tired up with ribbons and sprinkled with sugar by Oswalds actions.
Yet they never did Lori, the U.S. response was to request any relevant details from the Cuban Authorities about Oswald, the same Oswald their Embassy in Mexico only weeks before had interviewed at his request before shooting JFK.

Sorry Lori, North woods sounds as believable as 911 myths.
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chronology
chronology: Lori. While every 911 conspiracy myth is just that, a myth, I will at least say the UFO incidents are occasionally puzzling and frankly bewildering when looked at closely. Travis Walton has still not been debunked, despite opinionated critics saying they have debunked him. Dr Lynne Kytei presents an thought provoking case for the Phoenix Lights, but whether you believe the story is up to you.

All I agree is that you cannot dismiss these stories like the loopy 911 conspiracy urban myths.
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lori100
lori100: They are not myths....the govt didn't invade Cuba after JFK because it was one person (that they set up as a patsy)......Northwoods is real......-----------------From BODY OF SECRETS, James Bamford--------------According to secret and long-hidden documents obtained for Body of Secrets, the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. In the name of antiCommunism, they proposed launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plan, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.

The idea may actually have originated with President Eisenhower in the last days of his administration. With the Cold War hotter than ever and the recent U-2 scandal fresh in the public's memory, the old general wanted to go out with a win.
-------------------------As the Kennedy brothers appeared to suddenly "go soft" on Castro, Lemnitzer could see his opportunity to invade Cuba quickly slipping away. The attempts to provoke the Cuban public to revolt seemed dead and Castro, unfortunately, appeared to have no inclination to launch any attacks against Americans or their property Lemnitzer and the other Chiefs knew there was only one option left that would ensure their war. They would have to trick the American public and world opinion into hating Cuba so much that they would not only go along, but would insist that he and his generals launch their war against Castro. "World opinion, and the United Nations forum," said a secret JCS document, "should be favorably affected by developing the international image of the Cuban government as rash and irresponsible, and as an alarming and unpredictable threat to the peace of the Western Hemisphere."

Operation Northwoods called for a war in which many patriotic Americans and innocent Cubans would die senseless deaths, all to satisfy the egos of twisted generals back in Washington, safe in their taxpayer financed homes and limousines.

One idea seriously considered involved the launch of John Glenn, the first American to orbit the earth. On February 20,1962, Glenn was to lift off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on his historic journey. The flight was to carry the banner of America's virtues of truth, freedom, and democracy into orbit high over the planet. But Lemnitzer and his Chiefs had a different idea. They proposed to Lansdale that, should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof that . . . the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic.]"

This would be accomplished, Lemnitzer continued, "by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans." Thus, as NASA prepared to send the first American into space, the Joint Chiefs of Staff were preparing to use John Glenn's possible death as a pretext to launch a war.

Glenn lifted into history without mishap, leaving Lemnitzer and the Chiefs to begin devising new plots which they suggested be carried out "within the time frame of the next few months."

Among the actions recommended was "a series of well coordinated incidents to take place in and around" the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. This included dressing "friendly" Cubans in Cuban military uniforms and then have them "start riots near the main gate of the base. Others would pretend to be saboteurs inside the base. Ammunition would be blown up, fires started, aircraft sabotaged, mortars fired at the base with damage to installations."

The suggested operations grew progressively more outrageous. Another called for an action similar to the infamous incident in February 1898 when an explosion aboard the battleship Maine in Havana harbor killed 266 U.S. sailors. Although the exact cause of the explosion remained undetermined, it sparked the Spanish-American War with Cuba. Incited by the deadly blast, more than one million men volunteered for duty. Lemnitzer and his generals came up with a similar plan. "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," they proposed; "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

There seemed no limit to their fanaticism: "We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington," they wrote. "The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States.

We could sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated). . . . We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized."

Bombings were proposed, false arrests, hijackings:

*"Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government."
---------------------------Among the most elaborate schemes was to "create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner en route from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight."

Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs worked out a complex deception:

An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CJA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft]. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida.

From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Elgin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency a "May Day" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MiG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft, which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO [International Civil Aviation Organization radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the U.S. what has happened to the aircraft instead of the U.S. trying to "sell" the incident.

Finally, there was a plan to "make it appear that Communist Cuban MiGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack." It was a particularly believable operation given the decade of shoot downs that had just taken place.

In the final sentence of his letter to Secretary McNamara recommending the operations, Lemnitzer made a grab for even more power asking that the Joint Chiefs be placed in charge of carrying out Operation Northwoods and the invasion. "It is recommended," he wrote, "that this responsibility for both overt and covert military operations be assigned to the Joint Chiefs of Staff."

At 2:30 on the afternoon of Tuesday, March 13, 1962, Lemnitzer went over last-minute details of Operation Northwoods with his covert action chief, Brigadier General William H. Craig, and signed the document. He then went to a "special meeting" in McNamara's office. An hour later he met with Kennedy's military representative, General Maxwell Taylor. What happened during those meetings is unknown. But three days later, President Kennedy told Lemnitzer that there was virtually no possibility that the U.S. would ever use overt military force in Cuba.
------------------------In May 1963, Assistant Secretary of Defense Paul H. Nitze sent a message to the White House proposing "a possible scenario whereby an attack on a United States reconnaissance aircraft could be exploited toward the end of effecting the removal of the Castro regime." In the event Cuba attacked a U-2, the plan proposed sending in additional American pilots, this time on dangerous, unnecessary low-level reconnaissance missions with the expectation that they would also be shot down, thus provoking a war "[T]he U.S. could undertake various measures designed to stimulate the Cubans to provoke a new incident," said the plan. Nitze, however, did not volunteer to be one of the pilots.

One idea involved sending fighters across the island on "harassing reconnaissance" and "show-off" missions "flaunting our freedom of action, hoping to stir the Cuban military to action." "Thus," said the plan, "depending above all on whether the Cubans were or could be made to be trigger-happy, the development of the initial downing of a reconnaissance plane could lead at best to the elimination of Castro, perhaps to the removal of Soviet troops and the installation of ground inspection in Cuba, or at the least to our demonstration of firmness on reconnaissance." About a month later, a low-level flight was made across Cuba, but unfortunately for the Pentagon, instead of bullets it produced only a protest.
---------------------------------ummm......911....anyone....?
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear, there is just no reason in your logic. An accident involving John Glenn the U.S. would use to attack Cuba, but a Cuban worshipping slayer of an American President they would not. Honestly Lori it is time for some California Prunes and ice cream for you, and time for me to move on, it is dusk here and some Guys are shooting deer in the woods nearby, I don't want to catch a stray bullet.
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lori100
lori100: What do you say about the govt planning to crash planes...?
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chronology
chronology: Lori my dear. As CG Jung once said: 'a great deal of Science consists of mere talk' it is the same with politics.
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lori100
lori100: Would the govt be evil for plotting crashing planes?
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lori100
lori100: Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it. - John Lennon

The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes. - Benjamin Disraeli
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chronology
chronology: Lori dear, you make it sound like the U.S. is run by Caligula. All Superpowers like Rome or America are run by 'Bureaucrats' folks who punch into work each day for the State Department, or FBI or FDA or the Pentagon etc. They are not mad or evil, just folks doing their job day in day out.

Caligula rocked the boat and challenged the Religious and Political and Military establishments. Washington has checks and balances that prevent a Caligula from rampaging his fears and grudges, Rome eventually found similar checks and balances. Tinto Brass painted a picture of Caligula in his Movie.

I think Disraeli was referring to the Corporations and Companies that pulled the strings out of sight in the British Empire. People like Cecil Rhodes used Britain as his private toy to expand his Gold and Diamond holdings in Africa.
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lori100
lori100: Doing their job...?....so....crashing planes into buildings to get support for a war is just their job.....sounds evil to me...
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chronology
chronology: If you have a few million folks working at any Government you are bound to have occasional eccentric suggestions. Such suggestions never get picked up. There is more credibility in the Travis Walton story and Phoenix Lights story than 911 'Truther Myths'
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dave3974
dave3974: The Islamic State, which advocates public stoning for adultery, has opened a "marriage bureau" for women who want to wed its fighters in territory they control in Syria and Iraq.

The jihadist group's office is operating from Al-Bab, a town in Aleppo province of northern Syria, for "single women and widows who would like to marry IS fighters", said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The Britain-based monitoring group, citing residents, said interested parties were being asked to provide their names and addresses, "and IS fighters will come knocking at their door and officially ask for marriage".

The IS has also expanded into tourism, taking jihadists on honeymoons and civilians to visit other parts of its "caliphate".

Running twice-weekly tours from Syria's Raqa to Iraq's Anbar, IS buses fly the group's black flag and play jihadist songs throughout the journey.

IS proclaimed a "caliphate" last month straddling the two neighbouring Arab states.

It firmly controls large swathes of northern and eastern Syria, the Iraq-Syria border, and parts of northern and western Iraq.

The group has been accused of responsibility for a number of atrocities, including mass kidnappings and killings, stonings and crucifixions.

IS has its roots in Iraq, but spread into Syria in late spring 2013.

In June, IS spearheaded a lightning offensive in Iraq that saw large swathes of the country fall from Iraqi government hands.

Rebel groups fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime since March 2011 accuse IS, which has attracted thousands of foreign jihadists, of having "hijacked" their uprising.
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lori100
lori100: “Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.”
― Albert Einstein
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xapim
xapim: ......washingtonblog....., the fbi, drowning in counter-terrorism money, power and other resources- will apply the term "terrorism" to any group it dislikes , wants to control and suppress {posted dec.27 2012......}
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lori100
lori100: pretty much...
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lori100
lori100: http://www.undergroundworldnews.com
Tony Rooke refused to pay a TV license fee because the BBC intentionally misrepresented facts about the 9/11 attacks, he alleged. It is widely known that the BBC reported the collapse of World

Trade Center Building 7 over 20 minutes before it occurred. WTC 7 was a 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by a plane on 9/11 but collapsed at free-fall speed later that day.

So Rooke said the BBC had to have had prior knowledge to a terror attack making them complicit in the attack. He presented the BBC footage to the judge along with a slew of other evidence, and the judge agreed that Rooke had a reasonable case to protest. Rooke was found not guilty and he was not fined for failure to pay the licensing fee.
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